Talk:Hard Rock Hallelujah

Internal links

I have removed the internal links to "Hallelujah" in the opening phrase and "Heaven" and "Hell" in the other single. I don't think they contribute to the article as a whole. See Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context, if someone disagrees with this action say here. Tartan 10:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Since the internal link to "Hallelujah" has been replced (without discussion here) I'd like to ask if anyone else dissaproves of this action. I don't really think it is relevant to the article and no where else have I seen internal links made within title phrase like this. Tartan 21:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Removal of "illegal mp3-link"

Do not remove links you do not understand. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lordi#.22Illegal.22_mp3-link_removed apecat 14:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

Straightened out the English a bit and changed the (dead) link from Lordi's page to YouTube. If anyone can find a better link to the video, it'd be much appreciated. Snowgrouse 15:28, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

highschool

There are no high schools in Finland.

Cheerleaders aren't big either. I assumed the video was parodying US high schools, myself:). It doesn't look like a Finnish lukio to me either... Snowgrouse 18:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

This is heavy metal ???

Maybe the genre description of their "music" should be described from an independent point of view in an encyclopedia. Of course, the "band" would describe themselves as an "heavy-metal band", for obvious marketing reasons. I've only listened to their performance at the 2006 eurovision song contest, yet I don't know anything else from them (and I don't want to). My impressions were :

- Oh, god ! Their song is called "hard rock something" but still they are disguised as metal fans. - Great, their opening has some elements of hard rock, with the lack of structure that caracterizes poor metal. - Then, after the first 15 sec, they radically changed their style into something closer to dance or pop. Only the (obviously forced) "voice" of the singer could still be taken for metal music.

It was really "amazing" (I've loved the british comments on bbc prime) to see how such poor genre-mix could fool everyone into believing this is good music. It would have just been enough to fool them into believing this is music.

So taking this for "heavy metal" is just not right, in my opinion. Having said that, I'm ready to talk about wether Wikipedia should include marketing descriptions, thus I've not modified anything from the article.

King mike 08:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

There was a similar dispute about what genera System of a Down were a while back, can't remember how it turned out though. Unfortinately there isn't any way to objectively measure music style so we are forced to rely on the opinions of reliable critics. If you can find some established sources giving their opinion on what genera they are it would be a bit help. Jefffire 12:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't see what the fuss is all about. Everywhere I've seen Lordi refer to themselves as hard rock rather than heavy metal, probably to avoid just the sort of moaning about what constitutes "true" "metal" that is happening here. I added hard rock as a genre to the description, don't know who put heavy metal in there. But if we went back to the 70's, I'm sure they *would* have been described as heavy metal back then. Changing times, changing definitions and all that... Snowgrouse 19:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)