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Link

Hey Bugs, How ya doin? Been a while - hope you and yours are doing well. I ran across something in my daily reading I thought you might enjoy. I'd have to imagine you're fully aware of it, but didn't know if you had seen this particular article.

• link

At least Rose isn't all alone anymore I guess. Anyway .. have a good one. — Ched :  ?  00:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I saw. I suspect Hall of Fame weekend this summer will be pretty much of a dud. If the Hall is sufficiently hurt financially by the writers' non-action, maybe they'll demand a change in the rules. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:44, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Ref desk

So we're clear, I don't have any issue with you and your ref desk comments. I think you're generally very restrained and usually correct. But why are you picking such a fight on this trillion dollar coin issue? My initial point was that there's some interesting debate about this... and this conversation has spiraled into some weird tangent that has nothing to do with what the OP asked about (which is why I'm here, and not continuing this at RD). Yes if the "government" as some monolith creates a coin by fiat I suppose that's the case, but that was never the question, nor is it ever the reality. I'm bringing up a kinda interesting constitutional argument; I'm surprised you dug your heels in on this. Anyway, I don't have a problem with you bugs, I just am perturbed by that discussion that's all. Shadowjams (talk) 08:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

About Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Miscellaneous#Cricket

Hi again, Bugs. I thought you might like Twenty20. :-) --Shirt58 (talk) 10:20, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Interesting concept - a cricket match that might be shorter than a baseball game, especially a post-season game. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:40, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

GBLT

GBLT
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Giant BLT!

• Sounds like the noise you'd make after eating one... HalfShadow 05:47, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Kind of a sound-effects equivalent of "Gevalt!" ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:30, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	Your edit to ANI made me laugh, good one. Darkness Shines (talk) 13:32, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. :)

Although I must admit that I often tread a fine line between inspiration and desperation. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Gratuitous snark

This doesn't really help 8-( Andy Dingley (talk) 12:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

A user who chooses a food as an ID ought not be griping when other users make fun of it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:16, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps not, but a sentient, talking foodstuff who has already demonstrated a thin skin isn't productively provoked in the midst of an ANI discussion. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:53, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Ironically, cantaloupes are thick-skinned. The point of my comment there is that his gripe about someone calling him by his own username is irrelevant to the discussion and should be redacted. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:56, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Maybe he's not a real melon after all?, thus it's unhelpful to treat him as if he is. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:01, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

If he removes his pointless complaint, then I'll remove my response to it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:05, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

You are being insensitive towards his melon-choly. Ankh.Morpork 13:32, 22 January 2013 (UTC) 2-shay!

Cardinals

Thanks for the information on the Pelicans. Even if it is not solid for the main text without a reference, maybe it deserves a mention on the talk page. I would hesitate to put it in the main text without a reference because it was stated quite directly and without qualification. It may merit a little research. Donner60 (talk) 03:07, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Interesting logo on the uniform. The right format and color. Good point about possibly being a farm team. I found a site with New Orleans baseball history but it did not seem to have any comments about the logo. Donner60 (talk) 03:16, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

I think you have solved the riddle. The Pelicans had that similar logo because they were a Cardinals farm team. Hardly a reason to say that the Cardinals stole the logo from the Pelicans. It certainly would seem there was co-operation and a common interest. More likely that one team copied the other with consent, probably the opposite of that stated by the IP poster. That makes be feel even more confident about my edit on the Cardinals page. Donner60 (talk) 03:19, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

What's up, Doc?

What's up, Doc, or not? 75.185.79.52 (talk) 03:44, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Michigan to LA

What do I need to clarify? it's clear. A bus travel from Michigan to Los Angeles. Period. Kotjap (talk) 21:59, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh, ok, Detroit. Kotjap (talk) 22:05, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Clarified on talk page. Kotjap (talk) 22:10, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Hope you get drunk and have a merry afterlife! Sneazy (talk) 04:14, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't drink, but thanks for the thought. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:39, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

RD answer removed

Bugs, I have removed your reply from Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Horst_Wessel as it made no attempt to answer the question asked. At minimum, please don't derail threads until after useful information has been offered. — Lomn 14:35, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Comiskey capacity in 1979

Do you have anything definite? I'm working on Disco Demolition Night and the sources have capacity at 41,000 or maybe 45,000 or possibly 52,000. Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:40, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Retrosheet shows the attendance as 47,795.[1] I'll get back on the seating capacity. I have to find some old baseball guides. One thing worth pointing out about Sox Park is that after the mid-1920s expansion, over time the capacity shrank a bit, as smaller seats were replaced with larger seats from time to time. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:13, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

The Sporting News Baseball Guide for 1978-79-80-81 all say 44,492. Complicating matters is that their separate publication called the Dope Book (don't ask) has a breakdown by classes of ticket prices which doesn't quite add up. It shows as 44,120 in 1979 and 44,135 in 1980. However, I would go with 44,492. In any case, it seems they had over 3,000 standing room tickets that night. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:46, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I think more likely they sold an excessive number of general admissions. Do you have a page number for one of the Sporting News, say 79? I can pull the remaining bibliographic info off the web.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:02, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Page 11 of the 1979 Guide. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:27, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Kotjap

Baseball, I think that this user has shown a pattern of trollish behavior, and I'm not sure it's worth our time on the Reference Desk to engage too much with his bizarre statements. Your mileage may vary, of course, but I thought I would share my impression. Marco polo (talk) 21:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

I labeled him a troll a week or two ago, and was pooh-poohed for it. I do appreciate your impressions. But can you do Jack Benny? :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:07, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

You want to see my impression of Gandhi? Slight Smile 01:13, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Disco

Could I get you possibly to weigh in, at least on the baseball aspects (feel free to go beyond that) at the peer review of Disco Demolition Night here? The peer reviewer is not a baseball fan :). Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:41, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:44, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for that.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:14, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Forbes Field, TRS and other Pittsburgh venues

Just a heads up regarding a discussion from about a year ago. The issue has reappeared. Comments on the talk pages of these articles would be helpful if you have comments. CrazyPaco (talk) 06:46, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

AGF

Really? Immediately after I ask you to AGF as you demand an editor justify even asking why a Talk page has been semi-protected for two years you turn around and say that my questions are because I "probably [have] not been here long enough to have run across that kind of problem" ? I'm sorry that my tenure of 8 years and 41k edits isn't sufficient to understand the nuances of Wikipedia to your satisfaction.

I'm not sure what you were trying to contribute to the discussion but please rethink how you're interpreting WP:AGF and putting it into practice. You may have had good intentions but your actions and your tone were way off in this instance and only served to exacerbate and antagonize. ElKevbo (talk) 13:14, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I assumed good faith on your part, i.e. that you were young and naive about the behavior of vandals. But as you have been here a long time, you should know better than to make the argument you made. You should know that I've got it right. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I think we disagree about (a) how unregistered/logged out editors should be treated and (b) whether admins should provide reasonable answers to reasonable questions. You don't "have it right" but I don't think we're going to convince one another of that right now. In the future, please be more careful about making assumptions about other editors. ElKevbo (talk) 15:27, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Spare me your lectures. TWO admins had already said no, for a very sound reason: BLP violation, which trumps some IP's complaint that he can't edit. But then someone, ignoring the BLP issues, went ahead and unprotected it. My assumptions about IP's and redlinks trying to get things unprotected is based on experience. If you haven't had those kinds of experiences, consider yourself lucky. And I DO have it right. And you'll eventually learn that for yourself, unless you remain lucky. My viewpoint is based on discussions with seasoned administrators. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:34, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Christianity and references

Bugs,

I figured I'd move this here rather than further indenting a side conversation at the ref desk. To answer your question, though: my chief complaint is that your responses, after the initial "read Jesus" suggestion, are ill-informed speculation devoid of context. Your "Christianity is Christianity" statement is particularly ignorant; every reasonably educated Christian, of any branch (possible exception for the Universalists), is aware that this is not the case. One doesn't need to get into discussions of "who's right" in order to know that the various systems aren't inherently compatible. In the particular case, your claim that "pretty much any Christian denomination, including the JW's, should have the general concept [of the Kingdom of God] covered" is wildly wrong: the Jehovah's Witnesses are most recognizable for their 144,000 theology, a perspective that differs strongly from most if not all other groups. Finally, for your specific reinterpretation of my request for references, I'll take you up on it. Why is Jesus' resurrection of particular importance to Christians? Why is it qualitatively different from the Shunammite's son's, or Jarius' daughter's, or Tabitha's, or any of the other resurrections attested by the Bible? I'm mildly snarky because I don't think the concept is anywhere near as simple as you present, but it's also a question that I don't personally have a good answer for. I'm genuinely interested if you've got one. — Lomn 01:58, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

The famous "144,000" is a detail that is obviously not widely accepted, even though Revelation uses that number. The general notion of an afterlife, a resurrection, is vital to all branches of Christianity. Without it, nothing else matters, and it falls apart. If you can find a Christian denominaton that does not believe in the Resurrection of Jesus, I'll be properly shocked and awed. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:05, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Done. If you'd linked to resurrection of Jesus, you'd have found the following sentence: "Groups such as... as some liberal Christians dispute whether Jesus actually rose from the dead." That article then cites various Christian theologians who deny the resurrection of Jesus. There's also the couple thousand years of history of the dispute over whether that resurrection was physical or spiritual (and by extension, disagreement over what constitutes "resurrection"). And I'll note that you're still not offering any answer for "why it matters". — Lomn 02:16, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

If there's no Resurrection, then there's no religion. A "philosophy", maybe, but not a religion. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 10:38, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

So you don't consider anyone who follows the Jewish faith as being a religious follower? (Note: I was raised as United Presbyterian, but never studied studied theology) — Ched :  ?  10:52, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm talking strictly about Christianity. The Resurrection is essential to Christianity as a religion. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:03, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Alfalfa

Just out of curiousity, were you aware that Alfalfa was a racist slur? Wee Curry Monster talk 19:18, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Tor proxy block

Thanks for the compliment; I simply blocked the IP for 999,999,999 seconds and decided to let the software figure out how long that was. Nyttend (talk) 12:18, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

(Was just passing through and saw the maths sum.) About 31.6 Years I believe.

999,999,999 / 60 = minutes / 60 = hours / 24 = days /61 = months (2 months, 30 days and 31 respectively) / 6 (because covered 2 months in the last divide) = Years. Try it yourself :) MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 13:43, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

In no way do I doubt you, but

Can you give some sort of overlap between User:ItsLassieTime and Timothyhere or Kotjap, etc.? I do see there was something with Timmy and Timothy here, and find the Montana/British Columbia connection suspicious. Thanks, I'll watch here. μηδείς (talk) 20:45, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

I can't prove it, it's just a hunch. And my hunches are not always right. And in the bigger picture, it's somewhat interesting, but doesn't really matter. The behavior is also a bit like Light Current. The difference from both of them is subject matter. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:00, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll agree the behaviour is the same. Isn't "Timothy" a connection? (I never watched Lassie, though.) μηδείς (talk) 22:22, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

And the sock called "Truckowner". He could be trying to tell us something. Or it could just be dumb luck, so to speak. "TimmyTruck" was actually the sockmaster. "ItsLassieTime" was created later. And, yes, "Timmy" (Jon Provost) was a star of one of the Lassie series. But subject matter is way different from what ILT was into, at least at the time, some 4 years ago. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:43, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

reporting 109.151.98.87 to AIV

Many thanks. - Fantr (talk) 20:45, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. I do what I can. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:44, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

your Questions in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science#interstellar_Bomb

you written two answers within my Quest to avert the Prophecy. Since the discussion was closed before I could have written an answer, I will answer them here. I can imagine another way this alleged prophecy could "be here": Someone made it up. Created the idea in their imagination. It happens, you know.

the prophecy isn't made up. I found it 3 years ago, and started deciphering after I found the other one (there is at least one single other Person who posses the full Prophecy and is able to deciphering it) who helped me in deciphering, and the other found it 5 years ago and is deciphering since a bit longer than 3 years. The point is: in all this time the Prophecy wasn't changed, just copied again and again (to make it impossible to get lost) but it sucessfully predicted the so called arab spring (although I deciphered that part just recently, after it had already started), as the second of just 3 dated predictions in the first half of the 21th Century. So, no, the Prophecy isn't taken from thin air, it's fact.

Why worry about something 2,000 years in the future, when there's so much stuff to worry about in the here and now?

simple: because it's the only predicted event that can be averted. There are a lot of terrible events predicted by the Prophecy, which I really would want to negate if it would be possible, but I can't. Because this events are all the result of the Developments within our Universe, so the Blackbird-Molotow-Reich-Effect will cause that it would only be possible to delay that Events a bit (that farther ones not even that). The Multiverse-War is different, because it includes Causes from other Universes, and the Blackbird-Molotow-Reich-Effect did not adhere to interaction between Paralleluniverses.--AlaneOrenProst (talk) 07:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't believe in "prophecies", nor does most anyone at wikipedia, so you're barking up the wrong tree here. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:48, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

well, you may do not believe in the Prophecy, but it is true, nevertheless, I know it. Just because you decided to ignore the fact, that the Prophecy is right, it did not make it wrong.--AlaneOrenProst (talk) 13:00, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

The future has not happened yet, so if an alleged prophecy turns out to be "true", it was just dumb luck on somebody's part. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

you think so threedimensional. It wasn't just luck, the Prophecy is an precise discription of uman History from the future, sent into our past via time-travel. Everybody will realize that the Prophecy is true, when their Predictions will came true one after another, but I can not wait so long. The Prophecy is true, now and forever. That's Fact.--AlaneOrenProst (talk) 13:12, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

You seem to have confused an Arthur C. Clarke story with reality. The "Fact" is that there is no such thing as backwards time travel, and dat's dat. Whatever this alleged "Prophecy" is, it's a work of fiction. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:28, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

You are insulting me on the Base of your own ignorance. The Prophecy is not a work of Fiction, I know it. As I already mentioned before, the Prophecy sucessfull made a Prediction of an notable World event more than three Years in advance (but, as I said before, that part wasn't deciphered until recently, aka two years to late). And, in contrast to your overconfident but false claim, it is possible to travel backwards in time, acording to the ammendment of the third scroll via to so called "Time-Gate" or "Time-Portal" (translation is a bit tricky here), a technical artifact created by the mighty Alien-civilasion of the so calles "Elders" (contacted by the TMSC Belgrad in 3896, acording to the amendment of the second scroll), which was found by the TMSC Hope, while fleeing from terran-Cygnian-war in 3007.

and, in response of your false and annoying claiming, that every Prophecy must be false: just because you surving despite your incredible narrowmindness, that did not mean, your are allways right. Your aren't. --AlaneOrenProst (talk) 16:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

• The good news is that I believe you: the Entities that created your Prophesy actually can travel back in time, and many of their Prophesies are true.
• The bad news is they have a sense of humor, and so some of the Prophesies are just the younger Entities having a good laugh. The one about Emperor Dukakis celebrating his 25th year in power in January 2014 is an example.
• But the best news is that I have access to my own Entities, and they're even more reliable than your Entities, and they say your Entities are making up the Multiverse War. It's actually Multiversapalooza 4023, featuring... believe it or not... Keith Richards. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

please spare your bad jokes. This is a serious matter. And I know pretty well about the Multiverse-War, swince it is the Focus of the entire forth Scroll. --AlaneOrenProst (talk) 20:46, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Alan, has it occurred to you that you are talking delusionist nonsense?--Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 20:54, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

no. But, I suppose, it might look so, because I can give only a fragmentary disarranged picture. The Blackbird-Molotow-Reich-Effect maybe also cause enhanced sceptism, to make it harder for me to spread the Prophecy. --AlaneOrenProst (talk) 21:01, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Backwards time-travel is not possible. Any premise that assumes otherwise is bogus. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:21, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Current human Scientists (and, as I have to admit, even future human Scientiest, until the Time-Portal is discovered, and even after that they can't explain how it works) say it is impossible. But every Scientist before Rutherford discoverd the Atomic nucleus also would have called splitting an Atom impossible.--AlaneOrenProst (talk) 07:20, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Bugs, I think we are just feeding a troll here. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 10:23, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Whether or not, we're pretty much at the "endless loop" phase at this point. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 10:50, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Restricted-use media list

An RfC that may interest you has been opened at MediaWiki talk:Bad image list#Restricted-use media list, so please come and include your opinion. – PAINE ELLSWORTH ^CLIMAX! 09:49, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Good Humor

Leave your firearms, weapons of mass destruction and/or 'pew pew' zap guns at the door, seriously I laughed at that thing like 4 times (and a 5th when I looked back over it) while trying to type it out (in a class at the time of typing) and the please be neuter doesn't really help in stopping me from laughing. Combine that with your Bugs Bunny theme and well do I really need more justification to give you this? MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 13:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Labia/Auricula

Sometimes your comments cause me to laugh out loud.

"Close enough. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 08:48, 20 March 2013 (UTC)"

I wonder if Medeis is feeding you lines on purpose. Bielle (talk) 02:20, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

reference desk

excuse me, that question was a genuine one and I ask you not to be so disengenous in the future. Horatio Snickers (talk) 22:32, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

It sounds like a question Bowei Huang would ask. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:44, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Are you serious?

You answered this one. Ryan Vesey 05:03, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

That was a mistake. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:05, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Have you ever considered...

...to do some serious work at article space? I'm asking just out of curiosity. You sure can be funny at times, at least a year or two ago IMO, but to me it looks like you're using WP just as another forum for your amusement. Of course, please feel free to correct me if my impression is wrong. If you respond, and I'm sure you will, please don't be a dick; Remember that you're just a cute little big bunny, Harvey :) TMCk (talk) 04:10, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the personal attack. I do have a significant watch-list, FYI. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:43, 3 April 2013 (UTC)