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I have no idea which club sang it first however the fact is that Celtic and Liverpool were both responsible for it becoming a football song (neither was copying off the other)...this was subsequently adopted by other fans. Just planting a liverpool flag on the song and adding Celtic to the list of Dutch, German and Australian clubs that might occasionally sing it is innacurate...still don't let that bother you. Not like a liverpool fan to try and airbrush history is it. {{unsigned|RoyalBlueStuey}} |
I have no idea which club sang it first however the fact is that Celtic and Liverpool were both responsible for it becoming a football song (neither was copying off the other)...this was subsequently adopted by other fans. Just planting a liverpool flag on the song and adding Celtic to the list of Dutch, German and Australian clubs that might occasionally sing it is innacurate...still don't let that bother you. Not like a liverpool fan to try and airbrush history is it. {{unsigned|RoyalBlueStuey}} |
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: The unsupported claim that Celtic supporters started singing the song first is firmly rejected as being untrue. But yours is an interesting fallback position where we are now expected to believe that both Liverpool and Celtic supporters are equally responsible for making the song popular, presumably by adopting it at exactly the same time? But where is your evidence? I can't see it. |
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: Historians have determined that Liverpool group Gerry & the Pacemakers' cover version made the song more popular in England than ever, and that it was immediately adopted by the Liverpool faithful who stood on the Spion Kop. No serious historian has ever claimed that Celtic had anything to do with the growth or popularity of the song at precisely this point in time. |
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: For example, I can point to a BBC Panorama Television programme of 1964 that documents the mood of the Kop at the time (John Morgan, 'The Other Mersey Sound', BBC Panorama, 20 April, 1964. [http://www.timbosliverpool.co.uk/panorama.mp3 Partial audio here]). I have also supplied quotes from Liverpool native Gerry Marsden himself explaining just why, and when, the Kop started singing it. You, on the other hand, have set about arguing backwards and submit your own unsupported opinion as if it were supporting evidence. This is unacceptable. |
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: And so I will revert back, and will keep doing so, until you present something in the way of compelling evidence. Ste B 16:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 16:11, 24 May 2006
Is this the song that Eddie the Shipboard Computer sings during one of the "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" scenes? Joyous 22:12, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
- It certainly appears like it: [1]. That mightn't render properly if you're in Mozilla/Firefox or Opera. A cursory control+f for "walk alone" should give you the bit you're after, though. - Vague | Rant 10:08, Jan 1, 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, Eddie definitely sang the song in the radio series. As I recall, it was the ship's way of being helpful in the face of oncoming missiles. dbenbenn | talk 05:12, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
You'll Never Walk Alone and other clubs
On which club's supporters sang the song first, please discuss at Talk:Liverpool F.C.#You'll Never Walk Alone and other clubs. --Pkchan 16:19, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
RoyalBlueStuey, can you please present some evidence in support of your claim that a) YNWA was immediately adopted by Celtic supporters, and b) the song is invariably sung by them at football matches. I have spoken to a Celtic supporting friend who is unable to tell me exactly when the Scottish club started singing it, but that in his own personal experience Celtic supporters have sung the song "on and off over the last twenty years." Thankyou. Ste B 18:04, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I have no idea which club sang it first however the fact is that Celtic and Liverpool were both responsible for it becoming a football song (neither was copying off the other)...this was subsequently adopted by other fans. Just planting a liverpool flag on the song and adding Celtic to the list of Dutch, German and Australian clubs that might occasionally sing it is innacurate...still don't let that bother you. Not like a liverpool fan to try and airbrush history is it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoyalBlueStuey (talk • contribs)
- The unsupported claim that Celtic supporters started singing the song first is firmly rejected as being untrue. But yours is an interesting fallback position where we are now expected to believe that both Liverpool and Celtic supporters are equally responsible for making the song popular, presumably by adopting it at exactly the same time? But where is your evidence? I can't see it.
- Historians have determined that Liverpool group Gerry & the Pacemakers' cover version made the song more popular in England than ever, and that it was immediately adopted by the Liverpool faithful who stood on the Spion Kop. No serious historian has ever claimed that Celtic had anything to do with the growth or popularity of the song at precisely this point in time.
- For example, I can point to a BBC Panorama Television programme of 1964 that documents the mood of the Kop at the time (John Morgan, 'The Other Mersey Sound', BBC Panorama, 20 April, 1964. Partial audio here). I have also supplied quotes from Liverpool native Gerry Marsden himself explaining just why, and when, the Kop started singing it. You, on the other hand, have set about arguing backwards and submit your own unsupported opinion as if it were supporting evidence. This is unacceptable.
- And so I will revert back, and will keep doing so, until you present something in the way of compelling evidence. Ste B 16:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Audio?
Is it possible to somehow include an actual recodring of this song? I'm sure there must be a "free" version somewhere. Surely someone must have recorded the fans singing? Lars 15:37, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
- This link [2] will direct you to a partial video of Liverpool supporters singing the song. -- Ste B 23:12, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
German clubs
I'm from Germany and I've never heard the fans of Mainz 05 singing that song!!! It's the Westkurve in Kaiserslautern who use to sing that song before the games,especially the last seasons.--84.166.166.121 15:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)