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*'''Keep''' Notability cannot be lost once it is gained per [[WP:NTEMP]]. I'm still finding articles on the web that are far and above any "routine" coverage, such as [http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/news/story?id=4602923 Dodge's ankle injury improving] and [http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/news/story?id=5059117 UNT QB Dodge moving to receiver].--[[User:Paulmcdonald|Paul McDonald]] ([[User talk:Paulmcdonald|talk]]) 15:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' Notability cannot be lost once it is gained per [[WP:NTEMP]]. I'm still finding articles on the web that are far and above any "routine" coverage, such as [http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/news/story?id=4602923 Dodge's ankle injury improving] and [http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/news/story?id=5059117 UNT QB Dodge moving to receiver].--[[User:Paulmcdonald|Paul McDonald]] ([[User talk:Paulmcdonald|talk]]) 15:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC) |
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::The 2009 ankle injury is from "ESPNDallas.com" and is what you would expect for local coverage of a starting college athlete. Important local athletes in high schools also get such mentions. [[User:SalHamton|SalHamton]] ([[User talk:SalHamton|talk]]) 18:33, 7 April 2013 (UTC) |
::The 2009 ankle injury is from "ESPNDallas.com" and is what you would expect for local coverage of a starting college athlete. Important local athletes in high schools also get such mentions. [[User:SalHamton|SalHamton]] ([[User talk:SalHamton|talk]]) 18:33, 7 April 2013 (UTC) |
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:::First off, '''no''' ESPN and regional affiliates do not report ankle injuries on high school athletes unless they are extraordinarily noteworthy. Second, even if they did, that wouldn't negate this one. And third, try looking at [http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sunbelt/2009-08-24-northtexas_N.htm USA Today] "Coach Dodge and quarterback Dodge steer North Texas", [http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/unt-mean-green/20091128-As-season-ends-with-30-26-4180.ece Dallas Morning News] "http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sunbelt/2009-08-24-northtexas_N.htm", [http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/football/articles/2010/09/04/dodge_faces_win_or_else_season_at_north_texas/ Boston.com] "Dodge faces win-or-else season at North Texas", [http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1105200/index.htm Sports Illustrated] "The Son Also Shines", and a multitude of others. Just click on the "news" link above and you'll be taken to hundreds. Subject clearly passes the [[WP:GNG|general notability guideline]], and that is more than enough to establish notability even if the subject were to fail other specific guidelines per [[WP:ABELINCOLN]].--[[User:Paulmcdonald|Paul McDonald]] ([[User talk:Paulmcdonald|talk]]) 19:31, 7 April 2013 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' fails [[ATHLETE#College_athletes]]. The article is about the college football career of player that earned no awards, records or hall of fame honors. The first reference (RiseMag) doesn't exist and redirects to another website. The [http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/highschool/08/21/high.school0827/ 2007 Sports Illustrated article] is rather detailed in its high school section about his future college prospects. The Dallas Morning News (the link is dead) is equally about his famous father ([[Todd Dodge]]). The last reference is from 2011 and is about "play[ing] his last down at North Texas" after his father was fired. Any relevant material about the son playing for his father belongs in the father's article and this can be deleted. [[User:SalHamton|SalHamton]] ([[User talk:SalHamton|talk]]) 18:29, 7 April 2013 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' fails [[ATHLETE#College_athletes]]. The article is about the college football career of player that earned no awards, records or hall of fame honors. The first reference (RiseMag) doesn't exist and redirects to another website. The [http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/highschool/08/21/high.school0827/ 2007 Sports Illustrated article] is rather detailed in its high school section about his future college prospects. The Dallas Morning News (the link is dead) is equally about his famous father ([[Todd Dodge]]). The last reference is from 2011 and is about "play[ing] his last down at North Texas" after his father was fired. Any relevant material about the son playing for his father belongs in the father's article and this can be deleted. [[User:SalHamton|SalHamton]] ([[User talk:SalHamton|talk]]) 18:29, 7 April 2013 (UTC) |
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Former high school standout who fell into obscurity in college. Once notable, now no longer is. bender235 (talk) 09:15, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:52, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
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- Keep Notability cannot be lost once it is gained per WP:NTEMP. I'm still finding articles on the web that are far and above any "routine" coverage, such as Dodge's ankle injury improving and UNT QB Dodge moving to receiver.--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- The 2009 ankle injury is from "ESPNDallas.com" and is what you would expect for local coverage of a starting college athlete. Important local athletes in high schools also get such mentions. SalHamton (talk) 18:33, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- First off, no ESPN and regional affiliates do not report ankle injuries on high school athletes unless they are extraordinarily noteworthy. Second, even if they did, that wouldn't negate this one. And third, try looking at USA Today "Coach Dodge and quarterback Dodge steer North Texas", Dallas Morning News "http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sunbelt/2009-08-24-northtexas_N.htm", Boston.com "Dodge faces win-or-else season at North Texas", Sports Illustrated "The Son Also Shines", and a multitude of others. Just click on the "news" link above and you'll be taken to hundreds. Subject clearly passes the general notability guideline, and that is more than enough to establish notability even if the subject were to fail other specific guidelines per WP:ABELINCOLN.--Paul McDonald (talk) 19:31, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- The 2009 ankle injury is from "ESPNDallas.com" and is what you would expect for local coverage of a starting college athlete. Important local athletes in high schools also get such mentions. SalHamton (talk) 18:33, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- Delete fails ATHLETE#College_athletes. The article is about the college football career of player that earned no awards, records or hall of fame honors. The first reference (RiseMag) doesn't exist and redirects to another website. The 2007 Sports Illustrated article is rather detailed in its high school section about his future college prospects. The Dallas Morning News (the link is dead) is equally about his famous father (Todd Dodge). The last reference is from 2011 and is about "play[ing] his last down at North Texas" after his father was fired. Any relevant material about the son playing for his father belongs in the father's article and this can be deleted. SalHamton (talk) 18:29, 7 April 2013 (UTC)