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General
- The article describes an ongoing book series. The series is treated as a single, integral work consisting of multiple volumes.
- There is an attempt to utilise British English as the article idiom.
- In places, the Wikipedia Manual of Style may not be strictly followed. This may be done in an attempt to promote or preserve integrity, readability, or comprehension.
Title of article and work
- The work title used in the article, Horus Heresy Novel Series, is in accord with disambiguation practice, trade practice, branding, and popular awareness. The "Horus Heresy" sub-brand includes many works, in literature and other fields. Several are also released in series unrelated to the Novel Series.
- The publisher serializes (numbers) the work's volumes and refers to it as the "series" of "Horus Heresy novels", distinct from other Horus Heresy literature.
- The article title may not be in accord with guidelines for precision (WP:Precision). In a related section of this talk page user input has been requested, with a view towards changing the title.
- The italicization of both work and article titles may not be in accord with related guidelines (MOS:TITLE). Similar formatting is used in high-profile Wikipedia articles (eg Harry Potter book series) and other integral multivolume works like encyclopedias (eg Encyclopædia Britannica), and others.
Content
- This section provides information about future titles.
- It incorporates a conditional table that displays depending on availability of announced titles.
- Please do not add limited or special edition titles.
- Please do not add titles on pre-order or sale (any such non-special/non-limited edition titles should be in the table under section Horus Heresy (novels) § Published.
- Please add only titles that are detailed in publisher sources with:
- ISBN (or other official id)
- author name(s)
- release date(s)
- media type(s)
- If all conditions and other guidelines above are met, and to add an announced title:
- Copy the example "Announced" table markup, and paste it in the source text just under the section heading Horus Heresy (novels) § Announced.
- Edit the
{{Book list}}
template. - Please fill in only the indicated information.
- Optionally fill in the "Notes" row, or remove the "Notes" row.
- If there is a "Pending" sentence, remove it (see further below for example markup).
- Add pertinent information at the title(s)' synopsis entry. See the following section.
- For additional entries, repeat the pertinent steps above.
- When all "Announced" table titles go on pre-sale or sale, replace the "Announced" table markup with the "Pending" sentence markup, and fill in the included
{{As of}}
template.
Synopsis for "Announced" title(s)
- Please add information only for title(s) linked through the "Announced" table.
- Copy the example "Synopsis" markup, and paste it in the source text in the indicated place just above the section heading Horus Heresy (novels) § Media and editions.
- Please fill in only the indicated information.
- Please do not add actual story synopsis or any other spoilers.
- This section contains a table with information about published titles.
- Please do not add limited or special edition titles.
- Please only add titles on pre-order or sale.
- If all conditions and other guidelines above are met, and to add a title:
- Copy the example "Published" table markup, and paste it in the source text, on a separate line, immediately above the code for "end table" (
|}
). - Edit the
{{Book list}}
template. - Please fill in only the indicated information.
- Note that if the listing describes only non-print media, the information for "Length" must be entered in a specific way, see below.
- For additional entries, repeat the steps above.
- This section contains the article's footnotes. The section is formatted as a 3-column list (not supported by all browsers).
- Article text is kept separate from footnotes.
- List-defined named references are used to format all footnotes.
- As much as possible, it is attempted to use reference names (footnote anchors) that are context-based, descriptive, but also brief.
- In the source text, the footnotes are listed in ASCIIbetical order by reference name (footnote anchor). However, see below for a singular exception.
- This section lists the sources used. The section is formatted as a 2-column list (columns not supported by all browsers).
- The listings include any and all information that is judged as helpful to readers' understanding of the source, and verifying the related information. This is done even when such information may be stating the obvious.
- Please see also comment under section References that describes listing practice for multiple media/formats of the same work.
- Other things being equal, there is an attempt to use sources that are easily-available and/or easily-verifiable online.
- Cited sources available online may be preemptively archived at WebCite when:
- there are no copyright issues
- archiving is technically possible
- there are no display or other technical issues
- Certain archived sources may point to the Internet Archive. This may be because of issues that preclude archiving at WebCite, such as:
- software or formatting quirks at the source
- source link/item is dead or "stale"
- WebCite is experiencing service problems at the time of the archiving attempt
- As is common with genre fiction or tie-in works irrespective of popularity, sources that (a) reference the work (b) are normally acceptable to Wikipedia, are somewhat hard to find.
- The provenance and type of sources is therefore noted in citations by defining related or approximate parameters in citation templates. Similar information is sometimes provided in footnotes.
- Relative to Wikipedia policies or guidelines, the article may include a number of prima facie borderline-unreliable or questionable sources, such as blogs, online discussion sites and other internet sources.
- Sources as in above may be accepted by editors if judged neutral and topical. Other editors and readers are encouraged to scrutinise such editorial decisions.
- Sources may be reexamined and replaced if more suitable or reliable ones are found. Editors are also encouraged to help in this regard.
Markup
Anchors
- The article makes extensive use of editor-generated anchor linking.
- Single-word targets are linked to by "visible" anchors created via the
{{vanchor}}
template. Multi-word targets are linked to by anchors created via the{{anchor}}
template. - Some editor-created anchors are generated with other tools:
- By the parameter
|id=
of some templates (eg the template{{em}}
) - By the parameter
|id=
within HTML tags (eg in<div>...</div>
)
- Linked article sections with multi-word headings also utilise editor-created anchors (targeted redirects).
- As much as possible, it is attempted to use anchor names that are context-based and descriptive.
- Anchor names are either:
- single words or abbreviations
- hyphenated words
- abbreviated, hyphenated expressions
- Multi-word names of persons or objects use the last word of the name as the anchor link. Multi-word section headings use the first word of the heading as the anchor link.
- All non-visible anchors, including footnote anchors (reference names) are lower case (visible anchors are exact case by default).
- For a list of editor-created anchors see the "Anchors list". This list does not include footnote anchors.
- For a list of editor-created abbreviations see the "Abbreviations list".
Cited works
- Cited works are formatted through appropriate templates. Citation Style 1 (CS1) templates are used throughout.
- One template (
{{cite report}}
), used in a single instance, is not formally categorised as a CS1 template. However no visual or semantic differences are evident. - The template
{{cite encyclopedia}}
is used to cite the Series as a whole, per the recommended practice. - In deference to readers, the templating of citations may involve workarounds, and/or may present editors with non-standard formatting. Such instances are commented in the source text.
- Cited works are linked to through use of shortened footnotes.
- To provide correct context, in a few instances cited works are linked to directly, through their embedded citation anchor (
#CITEREF
).
Dates
- "Day Month Year" format is used for dates in article and footnote text. Month names are fully expanded, per Wikipedia guidelines (WP:DATEFORMAT). This format is also used for the primary dates of cited sources, ie date of work, and/or publication. (See under Horus Heresy (novels) § References).
- ISO 8601 format (yyyy-mm-dd) is used in templates only to denote secondary dates: the online access date ("retrieved [date]") and online archive date ("archived [date]") of a weblinked source.
- Because the article describes an ongoing work, information may become dated. The templates
{{As of}}
and/or{{Update after}}
may be used to alert editors to date-sensitive information. - The article repeatedly refers to the date item Warhammer 40,000, a brand name, that is therefore not formatted according to date display guidelines. The exception is noted in first instance, via the template
{{sic}}
. (The template's visible output is hidden by parameter|hide=yes
).
Footnotes
- In the article body, the template
{{r}}
is used to link to all footnotes. - In footnotes, Harvard templating is used to link to cited works.
- In one Harvard template,
{{harvs}}
, when the parameter|loc=
is defined, it is displayed with excess leading whitespace. This is a template error. - The template
{{refn}}
is used for a single footnote. This footnote utilises nested references. In the footnote list, the reference nest is out-of-order, listed first. (Technical details at bugzilla: bug 20707). - The reference names are either:
- single words or abbreviations
- hyphenated words
- abbreviated, hyphenated expressions
- For a list of editor-created abbreviations see the "Abbreviations list".
Links
Interwiki
- A few terms that may be ambiguous, novel, or foreign link to their Wiktionary entries.
- One Wikisource link is utilised (in footnote).
Other pages
- Several links directly point to sections in other article pages (WP:TARGET). In general, these links use editor-created anchors at the other page.
- For a list of other-page section links see the "Targeted redirects list".
Web
- Most weblinks in footnotes are formatted through the
{{URL}}
template. Some weblinks are formatted through other external-link templates. The{{Retrieved}}
template is coupled with all external-link templates that do not natively provide for an online access date. For exceptions, see below. - Some weblinks are formatted through the template
{{scp}}
, in order to hide the link icon ("plainlink"). The{{Retrieved}}
template is not used in these cases. - The
{{Retrieved}}
template is not used for external-link templates:
- Under the section Horus Heresy (novels) § External links
- In the article infobox
- Certain display problems (excess whitespace) with the
{{Retrieved}}
template have neccessitated workarounds:- use of the undocumented parameter
|append=
- use of template
{{Trim}}
- use of the undocumented parameter
Tables
- A sortable table that uses complex formatting is under section Horus Heresy (novels) § Published, see also above.
- A conditional table under section Horus Heresy (novels) § Announced uses similar formatting, see also above.
- In both tables referred to above, rows are added via the template
{{Book list}}
. - Proper table sorting requires use of templates nested within the
{{Book list}}
template:- the template
{{sortname}}
, in the data for the "author" parameter:|author=
{{sortname}}
- conditionally, the template
{{ntsh}}
in the data for the "aux1" parameter (length in pages), only in the "Published" titles table. This template may be used when the cell contents are non-numerical. In such cases, format the data for parameter "aux1" as follows:|aux1=
(the value "-1" is required for proper sorting, while the em dash is a placeholder){{ntsh|-1}}
—
- the template
- Multi-line cells in all tables use the template
{{ubl}}
(unbulleted list) for presentation. - The footnote
<ref name=nyt-bsl>
also includes a table with simpler formatting.
Templates and other encoding
- Templates are extensively used in the article in order to present a more standardised format to editors and readers, and in order to help in the article categorisation.
- The template
{{sic}}
may be used with visible output, in instances of peculiar or unexpected spelling. - One template (
{{ntsh}}
) is inserted conditionally, see section above. - The
<nowiki />
tag is used to correctly format certain wikilinks within citation templates. - For a list of editor-inserted templates see the "Templates list".
- For a list of editor-inserted elements and symbols see the "Code element/symbol list".
Text formatting
- The template
{{spnd}}
is used throughout, to correctly format spaced en dashes, and make them easily distinguishable from hyphens. - Non-breaking spaces (code:
) are used:- to avoid "hanging" numbers
- as a workaround in a few instances where whitespace is improperly trimmed (when the page is viewed in mobile format). The trimming is caused by errors in template programming.
- Non-breaking hyphens (code:
‑
) are also used, to avoid display or readability problems with:- hyphenated names
- hyphenated words (eg "e
‑
book"="e‑book")
- Non-breaking spaces or non-breaking hyphens are not used inside wikilinks (eg "e-book").
- For a list of editor-inserted elements and symbols see the "Code element/symbol list".
Enhancements
- Comments have been requested regarding adding book covers or other useful images to the article.
Example markup
"Announced" table
Copy and paste the following immediately under the
and:- edit the data in green only
- preserve italics formatting where indicated
{|class="wikitable sortable" |style="width: 50%" ! scope="col" width="225px"|Title !! scope="col" width="225px"|Author !! scope="col" width="250px"|Release date{{r|bl-hh-cs}} !! scope="col" class="unsortable"|{{abbr|Ref|Reference|u}}{{r|ref-cmnt}} |- {{Book list |title={{nowrap|Title}}|alt_title={{nowrap|Sub title [may not be italicised]}}|author={{nowrap|{{sortname|First|Last|nolink=1}}}}|publish_date={{ubl|li_style=white-space:nowrap;text-align:center|{{dts|Year|Month|format=my}}}}|aux1={{r|b#}}|line_color=unpublished}} |- class="sortbottom" |colspan="4"|[Note(s)][{{r|Reference(s)}}] |}
Announced title synopsis
Copy and paste the following at the end of the in green only:
and edit the data{{anchor|book#}}'''[#.] Title: subtitle''' [Book #}} (tentative). To be published Month Year].{{Update after|year|month|last-day|reason=published?}}
"Pending" sentence
Copy and paste the following immediately under the in green only:
and edit the data{{As of|yyyy|mo}} official announcement of further additions to the ''Series'' was pending.{{r|bl-hh-cs}}
"Published" table
Copy and paste the following on a separate line immediately above the "end table" (|}
) code of the "Published" titles table under the , and
- edit the data in green only
- preserve italics formatting where indicated
{{Book list |book_number=#|title={{nowrap|Title}}|alt_title={{nowrap|Sub title [may not be italicised]}}|author={{nowrap|{{sortname|First|Last|nolink=1}}}}|publish_date={{ubl|li_style=text-align:center|<nowiki>{{color|green|Month Year}}<nowiki>}}| aux1=## pp.|aux2={{r|b#}}|line_color=novel}}
Appendices
Abbreviations list
- List of editor-created abbreviations, concatenations, contractions and initialisms.
- Items defined in the article body or footnotes are not included.
Abbr | Meaning | Usage |
---|---|---|
abs | Art Book Series | reference name fragment |
ae | Anniversary Edition | reference name fragment |
as | Audio boxSet | reference name fragment |
aur | Aurelian | reference name fragment |
auth | Author(s) | reference name fragment |
b- | Book | reference name fragment |
b[#] | Book [Number] |
|
bl | Black Library | reference name fragment |
botf | Battle Of The Fang |
|
bs | BookSeller | reference name fragment |
bsl | BestSeLler | reference name fragment |
char | Character | reference name fragment |
cmnt | Comment |
|
con | Continuity | reference name fragment |
crit | Critic(s) | reference name fragment |
cs | Coming Soon | reference name fragment |
dm | Dropsite Massacre | anchor name |
eb | E-Bundle | reference name fragment |
eds | Editions | reference name |
eom | Emperor Of Mankind | anchor name |
gld | Gold | reference name fragment |
hh | Horus Heresy | reference name fragment |
i-truth | Imperial Truth |
|
loc | Locus | reference name fragment |
lst | List | reference name fragment |
mwg | Miniatures WarGame | reference name fragment |
nyt | New York Times | reference name fragment |
oa | Officio Assassinorum | anchor name |
oe | Omnibus Edition | reference name fragment |
p-truth | Primordial Truth | anchor name |
pe | Premium Edition | reference name fragment |
pre | Prequel | reference name fragment |
pream | Preamble | reference name fragment |
pub | Publication | reference name fragment |
pw | Publisher's Weekly | reference name fragment |
r-fleet | Retribution Fleet | anchor name |
rev | Review | reference name fragment |
rls | Release | reference name fragment |
rs | Rulebook Series |
|
seq | Sequel | reference name fragment |
sub | Subtitle | reference name fragment |
toc | Table Of Contents | reference name fragment |
Anchors list
- List of editor-created anchors.
- Does not include footnote anchors (reference names).
Anchor | Target |
---|---|
#abbadon | list item |
#abyss | term |
#ahriman | list item |
#Alpharius-Omegon | list item |
#Angron | list item |
#aurelian | list item |
#bile | list item |
#book[#] | paragraph headings |
#book1-ae | list item |
#botf | list item |
#cabal | list item |
#caliban | term |
#chaos | term |
#cestus | list item |
#corax | list item |
#creators | section heading |
#curze | list item |
#dm | term |
#dorn | list item |
#eom | list item |
#Erebus | list item |
#external | section heading |
#Fulgrim | list item |
#garro | list item |
#grammaticus | list item |
#guilliman | list item |
#hawser | list item |
#i-truth | term |
#isstvan | term |
#jonson | list item |
#Ka'Bandha | list item |
#Khârn | list item |
#keeler | list item |
#Kelbor-Hal | list item |
#kell | list item |
#Librarian | term |
#loken | list item |
#lupercal | list item |
#Magnus | list item |
#manus | list item |
#media | section heading |
#mmp | term |
#oa | term |
#p-truth | term |
#Perturabo | list item |
#premium | section heading |
#primarch | list item |
#prospero | term |
#r-fleet | term |
#ref-cmnt | text block |
#related | section heading |
#Remembrancer | term |
#Reviews | paragraph heading |
#rs-book1 | list item |
#russ | list item |
#Sanguinius | list item |
#Sales | paragraph heading |
#story | section heading |
#tal | list item |
#tawren | list item |
#trilogy | paragraph |
#ulthran | list item |
#ultramar | term |
#warp | term |
#Zadkiel | list item |
#zulane | list item |
#zurias | list item |
Code element/symbol list
- List of editor-inserted code elements and symbols.
Code/Symbol | Meaning | Usage |
---|---|---|
  |
whitespace | templates |
‑ |
non-breaking hyphen | anywhere |
[ |
left bracket ([) | templates |
] |
right bracket (]) | templates |
|
non-breaking space | anywhere |
<div>...</div> |
text-block element | article body |
<nowiki /> |
ignore preceding character | templates |
§ | section symbol | anywhere |
¶ | paragraph symbol | anywhere |
Targeted redirects list
- List of direct links to sections in other pages.
- Multiple sections per page are listed alphabetically.
Templates list
- List of editor-inserted templates.
Template | Used for |
---|---|
{{!}} |
escape vertical pipe (|) |
{{" '}} |
presentation (readability) |
{{"'}} |
presentation (readability) |
{{'}} |
presentation (readability) |
{{'"}} |
presentation (readability) |
{{'-}} |
presentation (readability) |
{{'s}} |
presentation (readability) |
{{*}} |
presentation (table) |
{{-'}} |
presentation (readability) |
{{Abbr}} |
format abbreviation |
{{Abbrlink}} |
link abbreviation |
{{Abbrw}} |
prefix abbreviation |
{{About}} |
disambiguation/redirection |
{{Anchor}} |
anchored link |
{{As of}} |
date info |
{{Bgg title}} |
specific web link |
{{Book list}} |
table row entry |
{{Circa}} |
date info |
{{Cite additional archived pages}} |
citing archived sources |
{{Cite book}} |
format citations (CS1) |
{{Cite ebook}} |
format citations (CS1) |
{{Cite encyclopedia}} |
format citations (CS1) |
{{Cite journal}} |
format citations (CS1) |
{{Cite magazine}} |
format citations (CS1) |
{{Cite mailing list}} |
format citations (CS1) |
{{Cite news}} |
format citations (CS1) |
{{Cite report}} |
format citation |
{{Cite sign}} |
format citations (CS1) |
{{Cite web}} |
format citations (CS1) |
{{Convert}} |
page-size conversion |
{{Crlf}} |
presentation (readability) |
{{Crlf2}} |
presentation (readability) |
{{Dfn}} |
term definition |
{{Dts}} |
date format |
{{Em}} |
semantic emphasis |
{{End date}} |
date info |
{{Harvid}} |
citation anchor |
{{Harvnb}} |
short reference/citation link |
{{Harvs}} |
short reference/citation link |
{{Harvtxt}} |
short reference/citation link |
{{Horus Heresy}} |
topical navbox |
{{ISBNT}} |
presentation (hide term) |
{{Infobox}} |
custom infobox |
{{Interp}} |
editor insertions |
{{Italic title}} |
title format |
{{Lang}} |
foreign script |
{{Main}} |
disambiguation/redirection |
{{Nowrap}} |
presentation (display) |
{{Ntsh}} |
sort table (no. of pages, conditional) |
{{Official website}} |
web link |
{{R}} |
footnote |
{{Redirect}} |
disambiguation/redirection |
{{Refbegin}} |
source list |
{{Refend}} |
source list |
{{Reflist}} |
footnote list |
{{Refn}} |
footnote nest |
{{Retrieved}} |
weblink info |
{{Scp}} |
presentation (hide icon) |
{{See section}} |
section link (other page) |
{{Sic}} |
error in source, noted |
{{Sortname}} |
sort table (author names) |
{{Spnd}} |
presentation (readability) |
{{Start date}} |
date info |
{{Strong}} |
semantic emphasis |
{{Trim}} |
presentation (display) |
{{Tvtropes}} |
specific web link |
{{URL}} |
web links |
{{Ubl}} |
presentation (display) |
{{Update after}} |
date info |
{{Vanchor}} |
visible anchored link |
{{WebCite}} |
specific web link |
{{Worldcat}} |
specific web link |
{{Ws2}} |
interwiki link |
70.19.122.39 (talk) 17:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
66.65.44.18 (talk) 19:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
12.158.92.249 (talk) 22:27, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Audio and Ltd Etd. Books
It would be logical if the audiobooks so far, and also the limited edition short stories in the Games Day Anthology 2011, Lightning Tower/Dark King chapbook, and Promethean Sun and Aurelian books were also mentioned on this page rather than only in the main Horus Heresy page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.248.233 (talk) 01:31, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
(small) overview page
Before this, searching for the Horus Heresy novels redirected you back to the tabletop game - given the size of the series so far and the fact that each novel has its own page, a (small) overview page with links to the individual novels would be preferable. Slavedriver (talk) 13:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Merge
I think it may be best to merge this page and the individual novels' pages--with a short synopsis for each novel describing the sequence of events--onto the 'Horus Heresy' lore page. The only argument I could see for giving this and the novels each their separate pages is perhaps by comparison to the over-exhaustive pages about 'Star Wars'.Ektogamut (talk) 06:02, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
- I Disagree with a merger. -Loke
- looks like they were merged anyway, citing this section. Ikip (talk) 19:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Soul Drinkers
Soul Drinkers: A chapter of Space Marines. loyal to their God-Emperor Their armor is adorned with a golden chalice and the rims of their armor are gold plated. They highly value honor above all else. That value led to the betrayal of their former comrades in the Imperium.
Their mission, given by the Chapter Master, was to take the Soulspear - a relic sacred to them and given to them by their primarch, Rogal Dorn. On this "simple" mission they encounter daemons, heretics and - worst of all - traitors, After the mission's commander is poisened by heretics further disaster befalls as agents of the Mechanicus steal the Soulspear out from under the new Commander's hands.
The Soul Drinkers put themselves to the test: do they bow down before the corrupt Imperium and it's traitors Or do they hold on to their honour and fight to the last man to take back the Soulspear.
82.41.101.206 (talk) 03:12, 28 December 2009 (UTC)Edited by Jhaerak
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.131.69 (talk) 02:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Reverted to earlier version
Several good faith edits by 3 users have been reverted. I will give the reasons for the reverts below:
- User:AnomieBOT erroneously flagged nested references as orphaned references. There are hidden comments about the nesting next to the "Notes" section heading, and after each nested ref. There is also the {{refn}} template, right at the top of the "Notes" section. A human would have seen this. Secondly, the bot disregarded the article layout, which SEPARATES text from refs, by inserting a ref in the text. Third, text was added to the reference that is wrong: it mentions "following notes" without giving any further explanation, and it removed pertinent info (the non-English language editions). Fourth, the whole exercise came to nothing, as the parser disregarded the added reference in favor of the old {{refn}} reference. Bad!! Stay bot, stay!!
- User:Cyberalien18 added information that I cannot find anywhere in official sources (ie Black Library/GW websites etc.) Although the information is correct, the reflink he provided (in Black Library's "Horus Heresy:Coming Soon" page) is misleading. The company has not yet posted any such info on the webpage. The info does exist in commercial websites such as Amazon. The article uses/should use official info only; please let's keep it that way. I encourage Cyberalien18 and anyone else to contribute along these lines and I appreciate their willingness.
- User:Khazar2 used Wikipedia:AWB to effect certain minor changes. However with the exception of a typo correction, the other changes introduce semantic incogruities and/or diminish a human editor's understanding of the article structure:
- in the "References" section, the change from {{cite ebook}} to {{cite book}}. The alias "cite ebook" is used, first because it accurately describes the actual source cited; secondly because both print AND e-book formats for the same work are cited.
- also in "References", the substitution of parameter "type" with "format." This is not correct. The parameter "type" in the edited citations refers to work (ie website) type such as blog, discussion forum, e-magazine, etc. and is properly positioned after the website name. "Format" refers to the webpage and describes file format or similar, and is positioned after the webpage title but before the website name.
Thanks 70.19.122.39 (talk) 13:57, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Title and categories
the article title should follow the trade/brand name as in "Horus Heresy Novel Series" and should be italicized (i added {{Italic title}} to itlicize the current title). however the current title does not accurately reflect the content, especially since there are Horus Heresy-branded books that are not part of the Novel Series.
Category:British science fiction novels is about single books, Category:British science fiction is too generic but may be more appropriate. similarly, Category:Science fantasy novels vs. Category:Science fiction book series. if subcategories Category:British science fiction book series, Category:Science fantasy book series and Category:Warhammer 40,000 book series are ever created they would be more appropriate.
thanks. 70.19.122.39 (talk) 00:36, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
i want to propose insertion of the following template in the article page:
{{Cleanup-articletitle|alternate title=Horus Heresy (novels)|Horus Heresy Novel Series|section=Talk:Horus_Heresy_(novels)#Title_and_categories|Title and categories|naming convention=Wikipedia:PRECISION|date=September 2012}}
any comments are welcome. 70.19.122.39 (talk) 13:17, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
book covers
pls discuss whether adding reproductions of Series book covers per WP:NFC is a good idea.
65.88.88.127 (talk) 20:01, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
documentation
doc for article editors will be forthcoming on this page. 70.19.122.39 (talk) 13:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- work in progress, above 70.19.122.39 (talk) 17:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)