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Cold Facts

The Brace Position is designed to kill you, the mythbusters were paid to show falsified results, just as with the cell phone/laptop debate, they always are given a set of pre-planned results for the industry a certain result would damage, if not destroy, in this case airlines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.199.78 (talk) 21:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the moon landing was a hoax, the US government faked the 9/11 attacks, George Bush is really a lizard in disguise, aaaaaand there is no spoon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.77.74 (talk) 18:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Countries like the UK have a national health service so there is no health insurance companies to profit from their deaths. In fact the life insurance payouts from the passengers deaths would likely be far greater than future medical expenses, so it wouldn't make any sense even in countries like the USA to kill the passengers... Comrinec (talk) 05:37, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with the very first 'cold fact' but agree with Comrinec's one. Kiko4564 (talk) 13:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"One passenger awoke and adopted the procedure, and he was the only survivor" Between waking and bracing, he managed to look around to see if anyone else was awake? Must have been a very small flight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.161.160 (talk) 15:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image Request

This article would greatly benefit from an actual image of the brace position to complement the text. 124.105.239.165 (talk) 01:32, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've crawled the net for about 10 minutes but couldn't find a suitable (free lic.'d) image, Maybe if the net is not serving such a pic, a sitter could easily demonstrate that and someone captures it (preferrably in an aircraft seat), note that there are several positions ... See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aviation#Brace_position_image.28s.29. --Scriberius (talk) 19:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there a blue object in front of the subject of the photograph's head? --71.111.194.50 (talk) 19:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Having the passenger lean over to some degree to avoid jackknifing or submarining.

What is submarining? Vgy7ujm (talk) 04:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is jackknifing for that matter? I know what it means when a tractor-trailer jackknifes, but I don't see how this can be applied to the brace position.--Subversive Sound (talk) 15:02, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How serious is this article?

If people were on an airliner that is about to ditch or crash, and the flight attendants and pilot told passengers to assume the "brace position," let's assume that there was about 2 minutes of flight time left. My question is this. Suppose a person heard this command and immediately typed a search into their mobile device or laptop, and the first link they found was to this article. Do you suppose it would be nice for there to be a concise, simplified, and accurate depiction of the brace position here, or should this article be comprehensive, rambling, and contradictory like it is right now? I like to saw logs! (talk) 06:19, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I hardly think that this would be our concern. This is up to airlines and governments to make aware to passengers, and most developed countries make safety cards and demonstrations required on each flight. In addition, if we were to try to take responsibility for peoples' lives, that means we're responsible if we steer them wrong. I could certainly see "I was injured because Wikipedia told me to do an unsafe brace position." Finally, if such a passenger were unsure how to assume the brace position, one could assume that he'd look at his fellow passengers to see how to do it (or, provided enough time, find the safety card). I truly doubt one would have the time or presence of mind to "ask the internet" in a life-or-death situation like this. Ronjoe223 (talk) 21:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 If people were on an airliner that is about to ditch or crash, and the flight attendants and pilot told passengers to assume the "brace position," let's assume that there was about 2 minutes of flight time left. My question is this. Suppose a person heard this command and immediately typed a search into their mobile device or laptop, and the first link they found was to this article. Do you suppose it would be nice for there to be a concise, simplified, and accurate depiction of the brace position here, or should this article be comprehensive, rambling, and contradictory like it is right now? [[User:Uruiamme|I like to saw logs!]] ([[User talk:Uruiamme|talk]]) 06:19, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
+:I hardly think that this would be our concern. This is up to airlines and governments to make aware to passengers, and most developed countries make safety cards and demonstrations required on each flight. In addition, if we were to try to take responsibility for peoples' lives, that means we're responsible if we steer them wrong. I could certainly see "I was injured because Wikipedia told me to do an unsafe brace position." Finally, if such a passenger were unsure how to assume the brace position, one could assume that he'd look at his fellow passengers to see how to do it (or, provided enough time, find the safety card). I truly doubt one would have the time or presence of mind to "ask the internet" in a life-or-death situation like this. [[User:Ronjoe223|Ronjoe223]] ([[User talk:Ronjoe223|talk]]) 21:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
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-I hardly think that this would be our concern. This is up to airlines and governments to make aware to passengers, and most developed countries make safety cards and demonstrations required on each flight. In addition, if we were to try to take responsibility for peoples' lives, that means we're responsible if we steer them wrong. I could certainly see "I was injured because Wikipedia told me to do an unsafe brace position." Finally, if such a passenger were unsure how to assume the brace position, one could assume that he'd look at his fellow passengers to see how to do it (or, provided enough time, find the safety card). I truly doubt one would have the time or presence of mind to "ask the internet" in a life-or-death situation like this. [[User:Ronjoe223|Ronjoe223]] ([[User talk:Ronjoe223|talk]]) 21:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)