Talk:Augustine of Hippo

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What does it mean in the introduction: 'the section of the church that adheres to the Trinity'? The Trinity is a central tenant of Christianity. I feel this phrase is quite misleading. Augustine is regarded as a church father in all branches of Christianity but these phrase seems to suggest he is not as influential. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Telopase (talk • contribs) 15:10, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Flash photography and paintings regarding "St Augustine and Monica"

the photograph of this painting is reflecting the strobe or flash used to light the painting. it is not an acurate representation of the painting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.173.24 (talk) 03:15, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done--JFH (talk) 21:35, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Adeodatus and his mother

Hello! I would like to discuss about phrase:

He abandoned them finally on his conversion in 389 when the boy was 17

I'm Italian and I'm not sure that I've understood this, but I think it means that Augustinus, in 389, has abandoned his lover and child. however I find another phrase, well-sourced, on this article, in which Adeodatus dies after 389:

On the way back to Africa, Augustine's mother Monica died, and Adeodatus soon after

I think that Augustine never abandoned Adeodatus. And I think that he never abandonate his lover. Infact, in "Confessions", 6,15.25, it's written:

Meanwhile my sins were multiplied, and when I was torn from the side, as an obstacle to the marriage, the woman with whom I used to go to bed, my heart, to which was attached, was deeply lacerated and bled for a long time. She satarted for Africa, making vow not know any other man, leaving me with the natural son got from her. (my traduction from italian version)

I can understand that the phrase about the neglect is sourced by Uta Ranke-Heinemann, but I don't understand why is reported only her point of view as if it is a certain fact: the grater part of the sources reported other facts.

There is also another phrase that I would like to discuss:

Possibly because his mother wanted him to marry a person of his class she remained his lover

I do not recommend removing it because it is well-sourced. However, the only news on the relationship between Augustine and this woman are reported by the same Augustine, who does not report why they are not married. Besides, the Catholic encyclopedia reports this:

St. Monica, his mother, desired him to marry the mother of his child.

Also in this case, the sources are discordant.

Allow me also to suggest this reading --Anakynus (talk) 09:30, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

13 Images!

Why 13 images from each darned renaissance painter, why? Just remember that 1. images take time to load from the server, 2. this is an encyclopedia, not a piece of art, wherein we're wallowing in sentiment like pigs in dirt. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 09:10, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

For some, the pictures tell a more important story than the words, and no, visual texts are not sources of sentiment only. And maybe an encyclopedia is a work of art....96.233.98.135 (talk) 04:47, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Augustine & the Orthodox Church

Augstine of Hippo remains a very controversial figure among Orthodox. The article is misleading in assuming that the reception of him as Blessed or as a Saint, and thus by inference of his theological concepts, by Archbishop Chrysostomos is universal among Orthodox hierarchs or theologians or jurisdictions. Many consider him to be a Western European parallel in the history of heresy to Origin who, they point out, is the source in content and methodology for many of the subsequent heresies condemned by the Seven Ecumenical Councils. See the numerous works of and webpages devoted to leading theologicans like Fr. John Romanides, Fr. Georges Florovsky, Archimandrite Justin Popovich, Fr. Michael Azkoul, Metr. Ephraim of Boston and many others. It is important to point out that until well into the 20th century there was no listing of Augustine in the Orthodox menology, nor was there a service dedicated to him. This alone despite his prominence in the heterodox Churches of the West (and perhaps because of it) should be a warning that many of his original theological ideas need to be carefully considered by Orthodox hierarchs and theologians and have been rejected by so many.

Timothy Fisher — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.163.3 (talk) 10:15, 1 April 2013 (UTC)