Talk:Xbox One

Contradiction.

"This console will be unveiled during the June 2013 Electronic Entertainment Expo"... and "Microsoft is [...] planning to make the first official announcements about Xbox 720 at the January 2012 Consumer Electronics Show". If one of these is correct, the other one cannot be. Simple as that, right? Not quite.

If the first is correct, a release during late 2013 would be utterly unfeasible. You simply cannot announce a console so shortly before its release- it would be akin to business suicide. More importantly, if it is unveiled during 2013, there's no reason for this article to exist yet, since it's not going to be officially announced for another year and a half.

If the second is correct, then the first is obviously incorrect, and then contradicts itself beautifully... but also, keep in mind that it says 'rumored'. I know a girl named WP:CRYSTAL, and she doesn't like rumors. Speaking of, the following sentence states that there are other 'rumored' names... going on to say that all three are correct in the infobox, despite the fact that we don't even have one (including the one in title) confirmed name.

In other words, the article contradicts itself in two places: the unveiling date, and the name of the system. Au revoir. Emmy Altava 07:05, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

To be frank, I don't think we even need this article at this point. DarthBotto _talk•cont 09:04, 08 January 2012 (UTC)

There is no contradiction here about the dates. Releasing a few teaser infos in 2012 won't mean that MS will release the entire system to the market. De728631 (talk) 17:02, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

But it doesn't say it will be released in 2013 (actually, it does, but that's another sentence). It says it will be unveiled in June 2013. Unveiled literally means 'to make visible'; in other words, to announce the system or show off its first teasers. If the system is shown at CES- and it's not looking like it's going to be- that would lie in direct contradiction with that statement.Emmy Altava 03:33, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

On merging

A user has proposed a merge of this article to Xbox 360 with reasoning "per WP:CRYSTAL there's no information about the article's title". I think it is possible the subject meets GNG at this point, especially since it is no longer rumor that the device will be launched next year. At the very least we should wait to see what Microsoft says at this year's Consumer Electronics Show (which began today and runs for just three days). Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 20:53, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Day one has revealed nothing, and neither has MS's keynote. It's possible for it to be a surprise, but I'm heavily doubting it. Sony and Microsoft don't really do much about their gaming systems at CES. In any case, are you sure it's official? Upcoming and reliable sources are reporting rumors that might actually released this year to combat Wii U. (Which itself did not get an article until the system was actually named. This is actually that part that has me curious; in its current state, this article is basically one for Project Cafe, which was deleted once or twice.)

If one can't tell, I fully support the article being merged until it has an official name.Emmy Altava 03:33, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

The most definite confirmation of a launch is here. I think in certain cases, if significant reliable sourcing exists, it is okay to individually cover a topic which does not yet have an official name, as long as its "codenames" are very well sourced (see Windows 8's introduction sentence from a couple weeks ago, for example). Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 18:31, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps another alternative we may consider would be to create an article for the Xbox series? What I mean by that, by the way, is that it would be suitable for the hardware line, as well as a place for future consoles, being the Xbox 720, or whatever may accommodate it. DarthBotto _talk•cont 10:58, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

An Xbox line of consoles article would be a good idea. 76.65.128.132 (talk) 23:16, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm also aware that for series, we generally need at least three subject pieces, but I think the Xbox franchise is expansive enough that it would warrant it at this point. DarthBotto _talk•cont 07:08, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Articles are now referring to the to the next xbox as the 720, such as IGN. And so this is now an appropriate article, however it should be made clear in the article that this name has been dubbed by the press and is not official. --Drumncars1996 (talk) 21:19, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

The source above has been brought up on the AFD as well, which you should check out. It was considered Crystal ball as well, as it is still rumor and speculation. -- ferret (talk) 22:32, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Two sections should be own section

The references and external links sections should be in their own sections, not part of the New features section. David O. Johnson (talk) 17:21, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. There was a typo in a prior section heading: this has now been fixed. Captain Conundrum (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protect

This needs to be semi-protected. Too much vandalism going on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.202.39.3 (talk) 18:14, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Aleady done. Sergecross73 msg me 18:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Needs to be redone. --Cheesemeister (talk) 18:37, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I completely agree. I don't want to wheel war, so I've asked the other Admin to re-apply it. Lets see if he responds. At the very least there seems to be a consensus forming here saying its necessary... Sergecross73 msg me 18:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I would agree, even if not just for the vandalism but because there are more than enough registered users contributing and it's hard for us to do so with so many edits happening. Samwalton9 (talk) 18:40, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I've restored it, and instructed the other Admin to discuss here before removing again. Sergecross73 msg me 18:47, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Official Site

Unfortunately the link to Xbox.com doesn't work at this time for me.
To create a working link use http://www.xbox.com/en-US

Main page

Is this major enough news to be put on the front page? Billybobjoe997 (talk) 18:53, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

yes 86.168.53.89 (talk) 19:01, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Did Playstation 4 go there? Samwalton9 (talk) 19:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

No, it didn't. See Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/February_2013#Sony_announces_release_of_PlayStation_4_console. --Kusunose 02:55, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Add website link

Hi please addit is the official Xbox one console website [1] for the website 86.168.53.89 (talk) 19:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Destiny

Game by Bungie being developed for the new Xbox. Can't edit it myself. 216.246.130.20 (talk) 19:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Its already in there under the game list. Sergecross73 msg me 19:14, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

We need an Xbox One controller page.

Wasn't there when I edited this page, obviously.216.246.130.20 (talk) 20:57, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Kinect

The Kinect throughput is only 2Gb/s not 2 GB/s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.8.171.196 (talk) 19:11, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Fixed that, thanks. Captain Conundrum (talk) 19:17, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Siri... seriously

¿Why do they refer to Apple's Siri? when Windows has voice recognition built-in since Vista, and there is also the more popular Google Now, I really don't see a reason to compare it to Siri when Windows itself has something similar for far longer. --86.81.201.94 (talk) 19:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Because lots of people know what Siri is. Its something people will instantly recognise and associate, which is what you want to do when writing a descriptive article. :)

There shouldn't be a reference to an unrelated product if it's not contextually necessary. In this case it certainly is not. 216.246.130.20 (talk) 21:01, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Are you familiar with an example with better recognize-ability? Sergecross73 msg me 21:08, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

You don't need to craft parallels in everything on an article. Assuming the reader speaks English, they should understand the what speech recognition is. 216.246.130.20 (talk) 23:39, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I would concur with this ... Kinect added speech recognition to the Xbox 360, and since Xbox One also has Kinect, I don't believe there's a need to expand upon it with a parallel from a competing company, especially if it is original analysis that determines the two are similar. --McDoobAU93 23:45, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

And the Kinect doesn't even talk back, which is a huge discrepancy between the two. That's three to one. I'd edit it myself but I don't have a wikipedia profile.216.246.130.20 (talk) 03:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

I concur, there doesn't seem to be a need to reference it. Dark Scary Bear (talk) 03:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Gamerscore transfering

Gamerscore will transfer over. [2] Didn't know where to add it, if at all. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I think this is more related to the Xbox Live service. SYSS Mouse (talk) 19:35, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Wasn't sure. That's why I added it here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I bet we'll end up needing a chart that summarizes the differences between XB1 and XB360.War (talk) 20:06, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

There's one at Xbox already for Xbox/360, makes sense to include One if/when specs are around. Samwalton9 (talk) 21:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Halo TV Series

The announcement included Steven Spielberg announcing a live-action Halo TV series for Xbox One. Not sure where to put this sort of information — Preceding unsigned comment added by War (talk • contribs) 20:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

The presentation was so heavily focused on TV/Video streaming, I'm sure it would be warranted to make a "Video" subsection under the features, and this could be a part of that. Sergecross73 msg me 20:37, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Good idea. Clearly the XB1 will have a heavy emphasis on watching television, movies, and other video interactions.War (talk) 20:51, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Hardware

There's a source ( http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-hardware-and-specs/ ) that provides information about the current hardware specs.

- 8 GB DDR3 RAM.
- 8-core AMD APU (CPU/GPU combo) using a 28nm process.
- 500 GB HDD.
- HDMI 1.4 output and pass-through.
etc...

This page is protected so I cannot add this information. The source, Engadget, is reliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.114.20.226 (talk) 21:39, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Image

There should be an image of the Xbox One, don't you think?— Preceding unsigned comment added by FRTH (talk • contribs) 21:39, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 May 2013

Change GDDR3 to DDR3. The citation says DDR3, not GDDR3. They are different technologies. Chuyayala (talk) 22:31, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

The infobox currently indicates 8GB DDR3 memory. Unless there is another reference to memory that I'm not seeing, this appears resolved to me. --McDoobAU93 00:05, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Extra Images for the page

Flyer and Other Media for Xbox One

Link: http://i.imgur.com/jvnfgWd.jpg Official Photos from Release Event: http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-system-controller-and-kinect-gallery/

4K resolution and 7.1 surround sound

Neither of these features have been confirmed anywhere (and none of the sources mention them).

Could we remove this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.228.33.193 (talk) 02:08, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

One reference listed those features and I have added two additional references. Forbes interviewed a Microsoft vice president who states that there is no hardware restriction that would prevent games from running at 4K resolution. --GrandDrake (talk) 03:29, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

3

Xbox 3 should redirect here, since it's the third Xbox. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 08:25, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Redirects are for common typos or other names, I haven't seen anyone call it Xbox 3 yet. - X201 (talk) 08:34, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Scrub that, I'll added it. Google search has turned up sources using it as a descriptive name prior to Durango name. - X201 (talk) 08:54, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Gaming?

Should it really be described as a gaming console? It's a home entertainment system with gaming options, based on the revealing presentation. --PrimEviL 10:29, 22 May 2013 (UTC)