User talk:BilCat

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MiG-21

• IMO, I think this claim is true, I remember reading somewhere about this and then later watch it on History channel's documentary, trouble is I can't recall the book but I can tell you it was History (TV channel)'s Dogfights (TV series) I watched it again recently. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 04:02, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

• I FOUND IT~! Read Munir Redfa. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 04:40, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

V-22 Osprey in future IDF service. Edits and thoughts

Hi. I made a couple changes to the Osprey article, which you reverted. I have no issue with that, but I believe the info I attempted to add to the info box was basically relevant. I assume your primary concern was that such changes were premature in the context of the recentness of the announcement. I also made some section title changes which I agree were problematic. At what point would you agree to the expansion in the infobox in terms of timeframe? Cheers! Irondome (talk) 02:28, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

The main problem with the infobox addition is that it uses fixed field titles. The field that you added, "future users", doesnt exist in the master template for the infobox, so it didn'teven show up in the main page. The general practice on aircraft articles is to list new users once the contracts have been signed, and/or the order is unlikely to be cancelled. To my knowledge, no contracts with Bell-Boeing have been signed yet. Some countries such as India take years to ever sign the full contracts, and even then the order may be cancelled for other reasons, such as corruption in one form or another. BilCat (talk) 02:55, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

I was unfamiliar with the templates. so it was a clumsy edit, I apologise if I screwed anything up. still need to learn much in terms of WP tools. I would agree with that view of the timeframe. Israeli-US deals tend to be relatively timely in their agreement, so I am guesstimating late summer/autumn for official sign ups inter - company and the actual numbers ordered. I suspect they have been cooperating on this for some time. Cheers Irondome (talk) 03:09, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Email down?

Is your email working? --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 17:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I just got your email. I'll reply to it. - BilCat (talk) 18:03, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Replied. - BilCat (talk) 18:14, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks, but I not able to help due to family issues. - BilCat (talk) 20:03, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

A-7

Hi ... the way the introduction reads is that it *replaced* those planes... which we both know it didn't. The A-7D was used in CSAR and CAS, and replaced those planes in those roles, The article introduction needs to be re-edited for clarity... However, I'm pretty sure that the F-100s were alredy sent back to the states by late 1972 anyway when we arrived at Korat..,. I remember those days well (why I have a certain fondness for this plane), I was with the 354th TFW during that time, and we also operated a small turn-around point at Bien Hoa AB also until Feb 73. I was a very young airman at the time and we had a few WRSK kit bins in a hangar there for emergency spare parts as well as a few crew chiefs. take care :) Bwmoll3 (talk) 17:57, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

While I understand what you mean, I think it depends on how one looks at it. I'll try to respond with more from my laptop later. - BilCat (talk) 18:13, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Dominican Spanish

Yes, I even sent a report to the "Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism" but they didn’t do anything against his/hers IPs — (70.148.147.138 (talk · contribs) and 50.154.236.130 (talk · contribs) —. ★ Nacho ★ ★ 22:17, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Bell P-39 Airacobra

You know with all the controversy over the date of the first flight, didn't anyone notice that it is called the P-39? Seriously, the Aeroweanie has some compelling evidence, not the least of which is a Bell company photograph of the XP-39 that is dated October 1, 1938. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:01, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Coinicidence either way, as the numbers were assigned in order, but cute nonetheless! The NYT article certainly adds support for the 1939 date, and AW found that too. - BilCat (talk) 14:08, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

PS, did the mail come through? - BilCat (talk) 14:09, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. FWiW, we've had a very recent death in the family, so things are not quite working well right now, in both a physical and metaphysical sense. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Please accept my deepest condolences to you and your family. May God be with you all. - BilCat (talk) 00:29, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

With apologies

I see now that I was unreasonable, I concedeSocratesrazo (talk) 00:23, 2 June 2013 (UTC)socratesrazo

Apology accepted. - BilCat (talk) 00:27, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

You need to read WP:BRD

Your initial removal was reverted per WP:BRD as such the long standing version of the article must be the one that is left standing until a discussion is concluded. Secondly on the talk page of the MOS it is explained that leagues with teams in two countries are considered international competitions. There was a huge discussion on it. It is the whole reason that sentence exists. -DJSasso (talk) 17:18, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Three days is not a "long standing version of the article". You are edit warring, and you need to stop. Please discuss this on the NHL talk page, and gain a consensus THERE to keep the flags, including specific links to any claimed consensuses. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 17:21, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

No your initial removal. Prior to your initial removal it had been there years. -DJSasso (talk) 17:21, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Not on the NHL page. - BilCat (talk) 17:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Prior to your removal it had been there since Aug 28th, 2006. Other than the odd day or two where joj has tried to remove it and been reverted. -DJSasso (talk) 17:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't know when my "initial removal" was, but it has been several years now, and for the majority of that time, there have been no flag icons in the infobox. - BilCat (talk) 17:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

A discussion has been opened on the NHL talk page. Please make any more comments there. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 17:42, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I should note there is no ill will :) Its just a debate that I've seen go around and around far too many times. -DJSasso (talk) 19:10, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I take your word for it, and that's why I added the AGF part in my comments on the other page. We can disagree without being disagreeable :) I do think that there are so many exeptions to the no-flags in Infoboxes rule that the guideline is becoming essentially worthless. I would like to see it clarified one way or another. I do believe that guidelines should follow usage, as opposed to policy, which necessarily dictaes usage. However, I also understand that there is a concern for accessibilty for the visually impaired readers, though I'm not sure I understand how this works out with the exceptions! - BilCat (talk) 19:20, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah its all a big mess really. I agree that the guidelines really should follow usage which in reality is that they are used more often than not. But I agree the accessibility concerns are an issue. Its mostly just the "distracting" arguments that I don't think much of cause that's just a personal opinion on taste or whatever. But I am good with whatever people decide as was done on the baseball page where an actual discussion was held to not use them on that page. -DJSasso (talk) 19:31, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

The use of flag icons in the non-English WPs appears to be very common. Many of the IPs adding the icons are from non-English speaking countries, and may not realize that their use is an issue on ENglish WP. They are used to using them on the WPs in their won languages, and so think they've just been ommitted here. That's often the case on aircraft airticles, where icons are often added to the aircraft infoboxes. - BilCat (talk) 19:39, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bilcat, I changed American for US, because American is for both South American and North American. I know that Landsat is a US satelite nor American. I have been just more precise. Isn't it?