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• EdwardsBot (talk) 09:41, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

TFL on Monday

Hey Schro, until this crusade calms down, I'm going to suggest we postpone the TFL appearance of Flashman, I hope you understand? With tags being added willy-nilly and FLRCs being suddenly opened up etc, it's not ideal for main page... Sorry. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Not a problem: I know it's out of your hands and it's the right thing to do for the main page. Hopefully this rather bizzare and questionable editing will calm down shortly and we'll go for a relist after that. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 14:42, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Once the FLRC is resolved, we'll reschedule it. Have a good weekend, and stay cool! The Rambling Man (talk) 14:46, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Cheers, RM: I'll take your advice and, like all good Englishmen, spend an evening relaxing appropriately! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 19:18, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

If you have time...

I wonder if you could follow up on Jane Joseph, now at FAC? I'll bet you can't find a missing ellipsis, either! Brianboulton (talk) 21:30, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I should be delighted to! Let the hunt commence! - SchroCat (talk) 03:31, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Re:File:Adele Skyfall sample.ogg

Someone else has sorted it out I see! For reference, samples should generally be no more than 30 seconds/10% of the song (whichever is shorter) and no more than 64 kbps. J Milburn (talk) 16:30, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

At least it saves me the trouble of getting it wrong! Thanks for the guidelines - much obliged! All the best - SchroCat (talk) 19:35, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey

Thanks for your input with this edit. It is always reassuring to see that I am interpreting polices the same way as other editors. Unfortunately it is still the old "episode" template, I would try and hash it out on the talk page, but something tells me it would be a pointless waste of time anyway. Besides, bigger fish to fry and I have no kids to teach for a week! Sun burns await! hahahaha -- MisterShiney ✉ 20:19, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Not a problem - always glad to chip in when I see good editors getting blasted for doing the right thing (and especially when they've been template for it!) You're probably right on the waste of time - these children's programmes seem to generate more heat, hot air and nonsense than Bond does! All the best - SchroCat (talk) 04:48, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/The Flashman Papers/archive1 and Talk:The Flashman Papers

I hope you don't think I've stuck my oar in too far, but I've asked for admin scrutiny of these discussions in the hope of getting them closed. Tim riley (talk) 21:12, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

SchroCat

I have a query because Skyfall received 92% and an 81/100 score on metacritic indicating worldwide acclaim. How did my edit not make sense and I do not think generally positive reviews fits with the very positive reviews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niku10 (talk • contribs) 14:36, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

See the numerous talk page threads on the articles talk page (and in the archives) about this very point. Please also remember to sign your talk page postings by using four tildes. - SchroCat (talk) 14:40, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

South Pacific (musical)

Please comment on our PR for this important musical at the PR page, here. We are on the way to FAC -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:34, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Will be very happy to! Will get onto it shortly. - SchroCat (talk) 17:21, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Vital Articles/Expanded: an invitation

Greetings, SchroCat. I wanted to follow up on our various conversations regarding the VA/E topic lists from last month. I also want to extend a personal invitation to you to participate in the ongoing discussions regarding films, filmmakers and actors at the VA/E main talk page. There are currently 16 pending discussions regarding specific films to be added, removed or swapped from the the existing list, including 9 film topics proposed for review by Betty Logan. We would welcome your knowledgeable participation in these discussions, too. Regards, Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:46, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Gentle nudge: I wasn't just being polite above; we really would welcome your participation to help pare our movies, actors and filmmakers lists. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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• EdwardsBot (talk) 09:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Sean Connery filmography

Started, I might begin working on the Connery article this evening..♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:35, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Is it me or does File:Larry Mullen jr cc20.jpg look just like Necros?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:22, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

LOL - They could be twins! - SchroCat (talk) 07:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Yup! Hey DYK that John Clark once starred alongside Ron Jeremy?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 22:14, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

PMSL - There's a film I never want to see! Can't even think what Lemmy is doing in it... they must have promised free booze or something! - SchroCat (talk) 06:31, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

See this Pause at 5:29 in particular, he looks as if he should be flying a NATO aircraft in Thunderball (Derval) doesn't he!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:50, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Hehe I wonder if you could find doubles of all Bond characters in the music world, we already have Sanchez the flamenco singer, him as Derval and Larry Mulle Jr as Necros! How about my friend User:Nvvchar as Largo?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:52, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

efn note template

Hmm. Deep Luddite suspicion from TR, but I cede prior place to you to go ahead as Ssilvers invites on the South Pacific footnotes. Tim riley (talk) 19:28, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Is there a WP typeface or template denoting nauseating smugness? I have done the deed using the Stone-age {{#tag:ref||group= n}} and all seems well in both Exploder and Firefox. If you now find that it turns into gibberish in Google Chrome I do not answer for the consequences. Tim riley (talk) 20:39, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Good grief! Ignore the frivolous remarks above: the same problem arises with your Terry-Thomas article if viewed in Windows Explorer. That is, the explanatory notes are indicated with a letter in the text but a number in the list of explanatory notes. Dontcher just love Microsoft! Tim riley (talk) 21:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Curiouser and curiouser! Yesterday notwithstanding, today both Exploder and Firefox behave perfectly chez Terry-Thomas. I don't propose to fess up to Ssilvers and Wehwalt, who might be forgiven for throwing bricks at me. But, scout's honour, it wasn't working yesterday on either page when viewed through Explorer 7. Ignorant of Islington (talk) 19:36, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Skyfall

Hope you don't mind that I started a GA nom of Skyfall (song) - I spent the day editing it to get it on the best shape possible, even if a review will possibly take long. (and since you removed a previous nom for being too busy, we could both oversee its progress, after all) If you wish to clean it up a bit, feel free. igordebraga ≠ 04:49, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

No problems with it at all: you've done a fair chunk of work on it and I've not had the time to kick it on. I'll give it a good copyedit shortly for you. All the best - SchroCat (talk) 04:52, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Still waiting for your input, specially after this emerged. igordebraga ≠ 02:03, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Skyfall review

I've begun the GA review for Skyfall (song) and have noted a few initial concerns. Could you comment there when you have a chance? Thanks for your work on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:27, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Bonjour tristesse (film)

Please see Talk:Bonjour tristesse (film)#Requested move. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:12, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

SPECTRE

I understand that the names i removed from the SPECTRE list were in fact names from, From Russia with Love the movie, and John Gardners books and i understand that they should be referenced. But i feel that the Key People section should be reserved for the original and genuine SPECTRE from the Fleming Novels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SEA-VAC (talk • contribs) 22:58, 4 June 2013

I think that SEA-VAC accidentally created a category using Hot-Cat when trying to reply to you; this is what he wrote on the category page (now deleted). Bencherlite^Talk 23:02, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh I am sorry I’m not sure how to navigate my way about this thing — Preceding unsigned comment added by SEA-VAC (talk • contribs) 23:07, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

There's no guidelines that says that we must either stick to the Fleming world, or include them all, so it's something of a judgment call on this. There is no reason not to include the non-Fleming characters on this is there? By the way, I tweaked your other change: Largo was number 2, except for the Thunderball operation, when he was temporarily assigned the number 1 for use in the field. - SchroCat (talk) 04:13, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate that there are no guidelines as to what should be present at the top of the page. All the same I think traditionalist bond fans would appreciate that the official SPECTRE rankings be kept at the top, and the parodies and re-established SPECTRE leaders remain as an after note embedded in the article. And I’m afraid I must correct you again, Largo is Number 1 the entire month that Plan Omega takes place, his title is indeed change as you suggest but that is from ‘deputy Supreme Commander’ to ‘Supreme Commander in the field’. His number remains 1 And Blofelds 2 thought the entire course of the book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SEA-VAC (talk • contribs) 14:48, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate the difference between the two—and I am a Fleming traditionalist too, by the way—but the SPECTRE organisation runs past Fleming and into the continuation authors. There is no issue over the canonicity of these authors: the books are published by the same company Fleming set up to licence his books, so they are, in some ways, as valid as Fleming's entries. - SchroCat (talk) 15:07, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Those magnificent Men...

If any consolation, you were absolutely correct as to the grammatical use in the contested sentence, as my edits were too rapid and using a version that was in on another browser that did not show your edit comments.FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:52, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Well I never...

Thought I would be using our favourite editor as an example, but I just did here. -- MisterShiney ✉ 16:11, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

LOL - that's a bit of a turn up! Sadly, the discussion on the JLM talk page still rumbles on: who would have thought something this simple could drag on this long! - SchroCat (talk) 16:19, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh dear. Sorry to hear that. On a different note, re the above message to the discussion, I have interpreted WP:RED correctly haven't I? Don't be afraid to tell me if I am wrong, you have been around longer than me. -- MisterShiney ✉ 16:27, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I tend to avoid leaving names red - even if it means just adding a stub that repeats the same info as the article. For actors etc, then the BFI, AFI or Google Books can come up with a few extra facts to start the thing off properly. I think you're probably reading it right, but it's good to err on the side of caution with a supporting stub article. Hope that helps! - SchroCat (talk) 16:34, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah it does. I agree it looks unmessy, but I tend to leave them because it helps grow Wikipedia. Thanks :) -- MisterShiney ✉ 16:45, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Skyfall

While I appreciate the fact that you were dissatisfied with my edit, it seems like an overreaction to delete my contribution without notifying me about the decision beforehand. And while I agree that a large chunk seemed bloated, I thought that certain bits didn't need to be deleted. For instance, the Aston Martin scene is a memorable scene, so I see no reason why that shouldn't be on the page. User_talk: SlayerDarth 17:12, 5 June 2013 (GMT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.204.135 (talk)

You made a Bold edit: it was reverted. I don't have to forewarn you of the deletion at all. The Aston scene may well be "memorable" to you, but it isn't a key plot point, and the Plot section is, as its name suggests, about the plot, not about bits that various editors find "memorable". If you still think it should go into the plot summary, I suggest you start a thread on the article's talk page to invite the thoughts of others. - SchroCat (talk) 16:25, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

From Russia with Love (novel)

I think that the bombing of the Russian consulate in Istanbul is a key plot point. After all, Red Grant expressed awareness of the event during his confrontation with Bond, who read about it himself in the papers.

Also, René Mathis and members of the Deuxième arriving at the end is pretty significant, because René Mathis is a relatively key character. He might not have been in the novel for long, but he was already an established character from Casino Royale. It isn't as if he were an absolute stranger.

Let me know what you think.

SlayerDarth (talk) 18:06, 5 June 2013 (GMT)

Neither of these facts affect anything that follows in the plot. The bomb goes off: that's it. No ramifications for Bond, or those involved in the storyline; on that basis it's not a plot point at all. Regarding Mathis, again, the identity of this very superficial mention means nothing. It could have been Mathis, or his deputy, or anyone else from the 2eme bureau: the actual identity means nothing. - SchroCat (talk) 18:58, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Reverted edit

Not that it's really that important but I'm just confused by the reason given for reverting my edit on the Quantum of Solace page. Is it not the 22nd (official) installment of the series? I know the series has been rebooted several times but reboots are installments in franchises just like sequels are. There are articles on this website explaining it. If you weren't referring to that then I really don't understand your explanation and the fact that my edit got reverted.

Also, I merely edited a few words, and none of them were misspelled. --DesignDeath (talk) 17:24, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

It's misleading because there are more than 22 films, so separating out the number of films to Eon ensures it's a subtle error. The misspelling is in instalments, which is the correct spelling for a British English article. - SchroCat (talk) 17:32, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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S&M (song)

Hey, can you do me a favour? Would you be able to read through this article and tighten up the prose please? I want to nominate it again for FAC but I've never been successful.  — AARON • ^TALK 09:46, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure. I'm a big tied up this weekend, but happy to look at it early next week. - SchroCat (talk) 07:38, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't really know what is wrong with it still as it has had so much input but something with the prose is stopping it from being promoted. For some reason, it just doesn't read like an FA.  — AARON • ^TALK 09:29, 8 June 2013 (UTC)