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Like I stated in [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Famous&diff=561135575&oldid=547893684 this edit summary], it seems that we should link to [[celebrity]] on the [[Famous]] disambiguation page, like we do for the [[Fame]] disambiguation page? No doubt most of our readers are looking for the Celebrity article when they type in "Fame" or "Famous." That's also why the Fame disambiguation page redirected to the Famous disambiguation page, before [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Famous&diff=488887698&oldid=395550737 created the latter on April 23, 2012.] Clarityfiend's [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Famous&diff=561137099&oldid=561135575 response] to my suggestion is, "Celebrity is not synonymous with Famous; it's not even mentioned in the Wiktionary definition." And my response to this is: Whether one states that ''celebrity'' is synonymous with ''famous'' or not, the Celebrity article is clearly being used to cover the topic of being famous; it is therefore the article that our readers are going to be looking for when looking for a general article about being famous. There is no good reason that this disambiguation page should not link to the Celebrity article, like the Fame disambiguation page does. After all, if ''celebrity'' is not synonymous with ''famous,'' it's not synonymous with ''fame'' either. Furthermore, despite what Clarityfiend stated about ''celebrity'' not being synonymous with ''famous,'' the dictionary definitions of ''fame'' and ''famous''[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fame][http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fame][http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/famous][http://www.thefreedictionary.com/famous] are the same, or generally the same, as the dictionary definitions of ''celebrity,'' and treat ''celebrity'' as a synonym for the terms.[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/celebrity][http://www.thefreedictionary.com/celebrity] |
Like I stated in [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Famous&diff=561135575&oldid=547893684 this edit summary], it seems that we should link to [[celebrity]] on the [[Famous]] disambiguation page, like we do for the [[Fame]] disambiguation page? No doubt most of our readers are looking for the Celebrity article when they type in "Fame" or "Famous." That's also why the Fame disambiguation page redirected to the Famous disambiguation page, before [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Famous&diff=488887698&oldid=395550737 created the latter on April 23, 2012.] Clarityfiend's [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Famous&diff=561137099&oldid=561135575 response] to my suggestion is, "Celebrity is not synonymous with Famous; it's not even mentioned in the Wiktionary definition." And my response to this is: Whether one states that ''celebrity'' is synonymous with ''famous'' or not, the Celebrity article is clearly being used to cover the topic of being famous; it is therefore the article that our readers are going to be looking for when looking for a general article about being famous. There is no good reason that this disambiguation page should not link to the Celebrity article, like the Fame disambiguation page does. After all, if ''celebrity'' is not synonymous with ''famous,'' it's not synonymous with ''fame'' either. Furthermore, despite what Clarityfiend stated about ''celebrity'' not being synonymous with ''famous,'' the dictionary definitions of ''fame'' and ''famous''[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fame][http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fame][http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/famous][http://www.thefreedictionary.com/famous] are the same, or generally the same, as the dictionary definitions of ''celebrity,'' and treat ''celebrity'' as a synonym for the terms.[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/celebrity][http://www.thefreedictionary.com/celebrity] |
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To get more opinions on this matter, I will ask the editors of [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation]] to weigh in on it. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 01:46, 23 June 2013 (UTC) |
To get more opinions on this matter, I will ask the editors of [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation]] to weigh in on it. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 01:46, 23 June 2013 (UTC) |
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:Suit yourself. The Great Wall of China, for example, is famous without being a celebrity. (It doesn't belong in the Fame page either IMO.) [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 01:53, 23 June 2013 (UTC) |
:Suit yourself. The Great Wall of China, for example, is famous without being a celebrity. (It doesn't belong in the Fame page either IMO.) [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 01:53, 23 June 2013 (UTC) |
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::Yes, good point about the [[Great Wall of China]]. But I have made good points above as well. Even if we don't call ''celebrity'' the principle meaning of ''famous,'' which is not something I'm arguing for (I simply copied the text that is used on the Fame disambiguation page), I believe that, per what I stated above, a link to the Celebrity article should be included on this disambiguation page. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 01:59, 23 June 2013 (UTC) |
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Link to the Celebrity article?
Like I stated in this edit summary, it seems that we should link to celebrity on the Famous disambiguation page, like we do for the Fame disambiguation page? No doubt most of our readers are looking for the Celebrity article when they type in "Fame" or "Famous." That's also why the Fame disambiguation page redirected to the Famous disambiguation page, before Clarityfiend created the latter on April 23, 2012. Clarityfiend's response to my suggestion is, "Celebrity is not synonymous with Famous; it's not even mentioned in the Wiktionary definition." And my response to this is: Whether one states that celebrity is synonymous with famous or not, the Celebrity article is clearly being used to cover the topic of being famous; it is therefore the article that our readers are going to be looking for when looking for a general article about being famous. There is no good reason that this disambiguation page should not link to the Celebrity article, like the Fame disambiguation page does. After all, if celebrity is not synonymous with famous, it's not synonymous with fame either. Furthermore, despite what Clarityfiend stated about celebrity not being synonymous with famous, the dictionary definitions of fame and famous[1][2][3][4] are the same, or generally the same, as the dictionary definitions of celebrity, and treat celebrity as a synonym for the terms.[5][6]
To get more opinions on this matter, I will ask the editors of Wikipedia:Disambiguation to weigh in on it. Flyer22 (talk) 01:46, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- Suit yourself. The Great Wall of China, for example, is famous without being a celebrity. (It doesn't belong in the Fame page either IMO.) Clarityfiend (talk) 01:53, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, good point about the Great Wall of China. But I have made good points above as well. Even if we don't call celebrity the principle meaning of famous, which is not something I'm arguing for (I simply copied the text that is used on the Fame disambiguation page), I believe that, per what I stated above, a link to the Celebrity article should be included on this disambiguation page. Flyer22 (talk) 01:59, 23 June 2013 (UTC)