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:According to my copy of Goode's World Atlas, it's labelled as "Ordos Desert" in English. Since this is the English wikipedia, the common name in English is what determines the name of the article, though the difference with other languages is interesting. [[User:Variable|siafu]] 04:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC) |
:According to my copy of Goode's World Atlas, it's labelled as "Ordos Desert" in English. Since this is the English wikipedia, the common name in English is what determines the name of the article, though the difference with other languages is interesting. [[User:Variable|siafu]] 04:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC) |
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I've edited several research papers lately where the Chinese authors address environmental conditions in the Mu Us Desert, the name they use for the desert. There seems to be confusion of the name of the Ordos. I continue to do research on the topic. The current Wikipedia page for the Ordos Desert uses the name Mu Us Desert as a synonym for the Ordos, as it starts by saying "The Ordos Desert, also known as the Mu Us Desert, . . ." I discovered this after creating a new Wikipedia page for the Mu Us Desert. But based on my previous research, I had a gut feeling the two deserts were not the same. Both have several English names used on the internet. I'm basing my research (and the Mu Us page) mainly on recently published research. |
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I'm coming to the conclusion that the Ordos consists of two deserts, the Mu Us to the south and the Hobq to the north; the latter also seems to have several names. To add to the confusion, some maps show the Ordos and the Mu Us as being the same location. Rather than make a firm decision at this point, I'm waiting until I have more reliable information. I can read a little Chinese and have thousands of Chinese-internet friends. Unfortunately, most of them have never heard of either desert! So, as I continue my research, I will add to the Mu Us page and may eventually make minor changes to this page, but only after I am certain which area has which name, based on reliable information. For example, the Reader's Digest World Atlas is both vague and unhelpful in making this decision. I need local and reliable published sources. [[User:Sedgehead|Sedgehead]] ([[User talk:Sedgehead|talk]]) 04:50, 13 July 2013 (UTC)Sedgehead |
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This article dates back to 1911, and I think some of the geographical names have changed. I tried to find this desert in the Chinese Wikipedia, but there is no article on it. There is an article zh:庫布其沙漠, which describes a desert in the northern Ordos region, and in this article is a red link to zh:鄂爾多斯高原, which would translate to Ordos Plateau. Actually, the German version of this article is at de:Ordos-Plateau (not: Wüste = desert). It could be we have to move this article to Ordos Plateau and create a different article on the desert. But what would the name of the desert be? 庫布其沙漠 = Kubuqi desert? But then, geographical names of the region have a mongolian root, which is transcribed to Chinese, so kubuqi ist wrong.
I am not an expert on Chinese geography so maybe somebody can check this? -- Mkill 23:20, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- According to my copy of Goode's World Atlas, it's labelled as "Ordos Desert" in English. Since this is the English wikipedia, the common name in English is what determines the name of the article, though the difference with other languages is interesting. siafu 04:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Ordos, Mu Us, and Hobq deserts
I've edited several research papers lately where the Chinese authors address environmental conditions in the Mu Us Desert, the name they use for the desert. There seems to be confusion of the name of the Ordos. I continue to do research on the topic. The current Wikipedia page for the Ordos Desert uses the name Mu Us Desert as a synonym for the Ordos, as it starts by saying "The Ordos Desert, also known as the Mu Us Desert, . . ." I discovered this after creating a new Wikipedia page for the Mu Us Desert. But based on my previous research, I had a gut feeling the two deserts were not the same. Both have several English names used on the internet. I'm basing my research (and the Mu Us page) mainly on recently published research.
I'm coming to the conclusion that the Ordos consists of two deserts, the Mu Us to the south and the Hobq to the north; the latter also seems to have several names. To add to the confusion, some maps show the Ordos and the Mu Us as being the same location. Rather than make a firm decision at this point, I'm waiting until I have more reliable information. I can read a little Chinese and have thousands of Chinese-internet friends. Unfortunately, most of them have never heard of either desert! So, as I continue my research, I will add to the Mu Us page and may eventually make minor changes to this page, but only after I am certain which area has which name, based on reliable information. For example, the Reader's Digest World Atlas is both vague and unhelpful in making this decision. I need local and reliable published sources. Sedgehead (talk) 04:50, 13 July 2013 (UTC)Sedgehead