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:{{tps}} I cleaned up the promotionalism. If you agree, we can take down the advert tag. I've also posted some templates on duncan's Talk page and the article talk page about how to participate properly in a PR position. [[User:CorporateM|CorporateM]] ([[User_talk:CorporateM|Talk]]) 18:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
:{{tps}} I cleaned up the promotionalism. If you agree, we can take down the advert tag. I've also posted some templates on duncan's Talk page and the article talk page about how to participate properly in a PR position. [[User:CorporateM|CorporateM]] ([[User_talk:CorporateM|Talk]]) 18:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

So can I replace the photos or will they be remove again? Please let me know. Thanks! [[User:Sduncan87|Sduncan87]] ([[User talk:Sduncan87|talk]]) 17:46, 18 July 2013 (UTC)


== Facepalm ==
== Facepalm ==

Revision as of 17:46, 18 July 2013


We're on vacation.

A beer for you!

Gotta start that vacation right....unless you are driving (then save this for later). :) Happy 4th!...Neutralhomer • Talk • 19:57, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much

Hi there. I'm clearly too stupid for the "thank" feature. When I tried to thank you for this, I accidentally thanked User:Thumperward for something completely different instead, and I do mean completely. Never mind… it was good luck, really, because I don't really want to thank you for that edit in a way other people can't see, on the contrary I want to praise you to the skies right here. Thank you very much right here for this edit. Bishonen | talk 20:26, 4 July 2013 (UTC).[reply]

What's going on???

I am out of the loop. Why have you and BW both requested de-sysopping? LadyofShalott 15:53, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oh heck! I didn't even get time to try and talk you out of it. Are you sure that's what you wanted to do? Of course we now have the entire anti-admin brigade jumping up and down in the schoolyard chanting "Two down and only 662 active admins to go! Hey, hey, rock the boat! Rock the boat! Yo, ho ho!" If I see you in Hong Kong I will invite you to dinner - and scold you badly. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:23, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
PS: No mastodons there, though. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:27, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, fuck. Wikipedia has now lost two admins who don't follow the conventional "admin crowd", as it were. Not good. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 16:31, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Damn. I don't see any good out of any of this. LadyofShalott 16:33, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • I, and I think most editors, are not anti-admin, but rather anti admin abuse and the communitie's complete unwillingness/ineffectiveness to do anything about it. And a gutless arbcom does not help. As is, it takes countless victims and arduous years of RFCs/AC/etc to get something done about just one bad admin. Drmies and Boing are fine admins and yes, seeing their frustration get to this level is very sad.PumpkinSky talk 17:30, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh bloody Hell. I was chasing down a mess concerning German silent films and then walking the dogs. You're supposed to be on vacation and as an admin, I do not pull my weight. You have done, and more. Please have a lovely vacation and when you come back - reconsider. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • A break from the non-stop stupidity will do wonders for your karma, Drmies. The real world is filled with far fewer power hungry jerks, and a lot more sunshine and kids and alcohol. Enjoy the break. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:39, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Word.  davidiad { t } 21:15, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Add me to the list of people who were surprised and sad to see this whole mess unfold. The project will really miss having you around as an administrator. Enjoy your break, and I do hope you come back. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I, too, hope that you will reconsider. Take some time off, and then please return to the project in whatever capacity you see fit. You will be missed by many people. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:20, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Add me to the list of those depressed by the news. I've been inactive in Wikipeda for a couple weeks, and just now catching up. Hope some time off will let you reconsider.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 21:50, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Duuuhhhh... duhhh... duuuuhhhh... what? Jeez. Best of luck, hope you'll reconsider at some point. I never actually interacted with you as an admin, now that I think about it, but you're a damn cool head and a good guy. Take it easy without the mop for a while (can one use a broom on WP? Dustcloth?) and maybe take it up again later. Cheers, Ignatzmice•talk 22:16, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sock troll

The last edits I reverted on your page was from a sock, but anyways enjoy your break and wish you all the best for the future. Prabash.Akmeemana 18:19, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks--but sock, yes, troll no. It's an old friend and I'm surprised that I still warrant his attention. I appreciate it, but I'm re-inserting his message. Drmies (talk) 21:35, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Whoa sorry Drmies, I didn't know it was Badmachine! well... apologies to Badmachine aswellPrabash.Akmeemana 23:15, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No worries PBASH: plenty of people here would applaud your rollback, but I make an exception for him. Thanks again. Drmies (talk) 23:26, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

you're too good for this place anyway

Hi again Drmies. While it's unfortunate that you have dropped your sysop privs, i understand why. Abusive sysops like ironholds have taken over, and they will do as they please, under threat of being "thwapped". Wikipedia has just lost one of "the good ones" when you resigned, and while i'm sorry to see you go, i reckon you're better off without wikipedia. Let ironholds and his tag team have the place. He and his clique seem to have an iron hold on the place anyway. Take care. /)(\ Sockmachine (talk) 18:08, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PS: sorry this isn't better phrased. Presbyopia and tiny screens don't mix well. Take it easy, and if you're inclined to email me, use iLvadeL@diLdomaiL.com. :) Sockmachine (talk) 18:12, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • I appreciate the note, Bad Sock. I don't endorse your condemnation of one specific sysop, but I do believe we got some work to do on our culture, and at the moment I am incapable of doing that. I may not ever be able to do anything, really--Allzumenschliches. And I've not dropped Wikipedia (completely)--I just don't want to be one of them anymore, for now. Besides, socking is fun also. :) Hey, take care of yourself. It's always nice to hear from you, and I hope/trust you're being good to yourself and your neighbor. Say hi to Alison if you run into her. Drmies (talk) 21:35, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
you're right that it isn't only oliver. As it said on the now deleted user talk:sockmachine, it is also the other members of the irc crew and the associated suckups and sycophants that scratch each others asses and vote for each others rfa's. This isn't likely to change anytime soon, but if you're inclined to see some of their (now better behaved) antics, check out wikipedialogs.com. See you around, even if it's in the teeny type of a smartphone. ;) 174.141.213.26 (talk) 23:04, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ha, now I know that I was right to stay out of such chatty places. They tend to bring out the worst in people. I remember the good old days of the Napster chat rooms, and I'm glad those days are over for me. Later, Drmies (talk) 18:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

99, wishing you the best

Whatever you choose to do you have my support. Cheers, 76.248.151.159 (talk) 20:23, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks, and thanks to everyone else as well. Y'all are a nice bunch of people to work with. I'm not abandoning this account though I'm taking it easy, and right now I don't want to feel like a big shot. Sorry if I can't be of the usual help administratively; at some point I'll be a somewhat regular editor again and then I'll be glad to do what I can. Hope Mrs. 99 is doing well, by the way. Drmies (talk) 21:38, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ms. 99 is doing much better; thank you for asking. Very warm in New England now, so I find myself doing the backstroke through a tub of Leinenkugel. I hope everyone is well at Chez Drmies. You've been a great presence here, and will continue to be so wherever you opt to contribute. Always feel free to drop a line off-Wiki. 76.248.151.159 (talk) 22:26, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hulk sad

Hulk sorry for Hulk fun, and Hulk wants Hammer Man to come back. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 20:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC) After reading a book on Russian guitar poetry which ignores the guitar, Kiefer also wonders whether learning the lute is required of literature doctoral-students who want to go Medieval on your ass, despite the example of Major Major Major Major. 20:37, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Kiefer, Kelapstick is not like me and the other power slaves. He's here to help and to write, or to write and to help. You should (yes, I'm using "should") rethink your vote and at the very least give him the benefit of the doubt, a necessary adjunct of AGF. That too many of us forget about writing content when we get the tool is sad, and that many of us got the tool without having written shit and/or having good sense is even sadder. But you can't hold that against my pal K-stick, who is the nicest guy in the world. If anyone (besides the Lady) were ever NOT likely to become an administrative non-writing jerk, it's K-stick. Drmies (talk) 22:50, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    "The clemency requested by Judge Drmies, who has taken The Long Walk, is hereby granted." Kiefer.Wolfowitz 07:23, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for "He's here to help and to write...". Respectfully, Tiyang (talk) 08:21, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

IJS

don't loose my email buddy. — Ched :  ?  22:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Selfish request

I'd encourage any active user to take breaks, Professor, but I would request that you consider returning as an admin at some point. The work you performed cannot be made up by those of us who are left. See ya 'round Tiderolls 23:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Too bad

A beer on me!
I've been too busy at Commons and elsewhere lately, and that's why I totally missed the recent insanity over here. I'm sad to see you leave the admin team, but then I'm glad to know that you don't completely abandon this place. So I hope to see you on the editing side some day sooner or later. In the meantime, you should perhaps just sit back and have a cold one. Proost! De728631 (talk) 23:30, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for everything

No caption required.

Hey Doc, I see you have resigned your admin status. Just wanted to thank you for all the editing and adminning you have done around here. You are by far one of the hardest working Wikipedians (both editor and admin) around, and a credit to the project. I don't know what you plans are for this place in the future, I am sure you are still forming them yourself. I suggest clearing your watchlist, taking the summer off, and returning in September. Time away will make you feel like a new woman, and a clean watchilst is good for the soul.[citation needed] Since you will have so much free time with the summer off, you and the family can meet us on our early August camping tour of the Bay of Fundy and Prince Edward Island. I hear the bay is spectacular at low tide, and you can't beat the potatoes. Keep in touch, you know how to get a hold of me. Be sure you can find me a spot in Missouri where I can park my trailer for next year. We'll have a fire-cooked Bacon Explosion with our Mitch Morgans.--kelapstick(bainuu) 23:30, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • You can always ask Dennis. Wait, he's on non-active status also. Thanks though. Crisco, I'm thinking about forwarding you something that's making me want to retire this account completely. I read elsewhere that I'm a pissy queen--well, there's more editors than just that one who think that. K-stick, you're a fine editor and a fine human being, and you'll be a great admin. Drmies (talk) 20:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ack!

Well, you've just gone and increased the percentage of bad admins.

I try not to follow the political goings-on around here very much (otherwise I'd probably end up with one of those "Retired" templates on my page), but it looks like this was all precipitated by exactly the same issue which I'd asked your professional opinion about recently. Someone had gotten upset because I removed what I felt was an extraneous "the"; you agreed with me, and, apparently, so does Eric.

You've gotta do what you've gotta do, but I'm sure you know that you've got a plethora of supporters who would anxiously like to see you back as an admin. In any case, thanks for all of the superb work you've done in that capacity. And, for now, welcome back to the world of the unwashed masses. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:50, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really sorry to hear about your decision, really. Beyond My Ken (talk) 07:31, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support all of it (and some of further up, only I can't offer a picnic on a beach), thanks for phrasing it, Mandarax, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I am around, reading more than anything else, and especially the noticeboards. I'm wondering how Kudpung's admin board proposal is faring. Drmies (talk) 13:40, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Did you read about the kafkaesque doodle? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:53, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I did, Gerda, quite an amazing feat. I'm surprised the afterglow didn't burn you up: it's something to be proud of. (Also, I'm teaching Metamorphoses this week. If I had read Kafka at 15 my life might have gone differently.) 68.117.251.28 (talk) 22:50, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Drmies. You have new messages at OrangesRyellow's talk page.
Message added 06:57, 7 July 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

OrangesRyellow (talk) 06:57, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Where do I go to report spammers?

PRDR123 (talk · contribs)

Looks to be an obvious role account and name violation spamming links to their website on a couple articles I watch over the last few minutes. CorporateM (Talk) 01:15, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I've blocked this one indefinitely. Next time please report such incidents at WP:AIV. Cheers, De728631 (talk) 12:33, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some stroopwafels for you!

Have some sugar. I'll fry up some bacon later.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:13, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

France

Isenheim altarpiece in Colmar - First view
Second view, this was really great.

Hi, I have been in Geneve, in Strassbourg, Colmar and I have been in Samoens. I did have creme de marrons. What is wrong with sauerkraut? French people in Colmar eat that in the restaurants. If you say Choucroute garnie, they will give it to you. Not poisonous. During the American Civil War, the physician John Jay Terrell (1829–1922) was able to successfully reduce the death rate among prisoners of war from disease; he attributed this to the practice of feeding his patients raw sauerkraut. Samoens is around Val d'isere. Warrington (talk) 14:02, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Warrington! You are living it up! I can't say I like sauerkraut ("zuurkool"), but I respect people who do. Tell me about this travel. Are you hitchhiking? on some kind of Eurorail pass? Just you, or friends, family? Who feeds the dog back in Lomma? Are you still there? How is your French? Did you enjoy the creme de marrons? Have you tried every single eau de vie on offer in each locality? Aren't the Alps beautiful? Drmies (talk) 14:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I kind of moved to Lund nowadays. The idea was to trawel with friends a bit so that everyone can drive a little, and nobody gets tired. We hired a house in Samoens, and than moved arround, by fot or driving small trips, just for a day. I thought my French was ... OK, but the French did not think that. Still I did got what they were saying, pretty well. The problems started when I tried to talk to them. Funny, but when you do not talk a language for a while, it is not easy to find the right words. You just say arrr, ughh... eeee, bon jour. I did enjoy the creme de marrons, as a matter of fact we had one allmost every day... and the mountains were simply lowely. There were waterwells ewerywhere, and springs and it was drinkwater, meaning you could drink it all over the place. I am back now. No, not much eau de vie , mostly vine if we had anything. I am not much of a drinker ... Just for the fun of tasting the French vines. And we were driving a lot, too. Warrington (talk) 14:02, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The mysteries of the universe

What is it? Where did it come from? Who created it? Ponder questions older than time at this forsaken corner of the net.

Thanks for the lick, btw. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:46, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats!

Congrats on the FA! I just got back from camping and saw it - thanks for making it into such a great article! Wadewitz (talk) 18:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

...for following up here [1]. Often I'll notice and cut some of the crap, and lack the will to commit to a full evisceration. As for the 'gravedancing' business, I wouldn't bother responding. I'm amused whenever anyone purports to tell the hard truth. It appears that I'm now receiving 76 designations. Pity, I'd so enjoyed being a 99. Well, life is a fluid thing. Cheers, 76.248.144.216 (talk) 19:26, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

God dammit, Drmies

Just what do you think you're doing?

You know we need your services as an administrator. :-P

Just kidding, it's your choice — although, don't make the mistake of thinking that your work isn't appreciated. Kurtis (talk) 11:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh...I don't understand what's happening. Is this it? Is there a Galt's Gulch that all of the competent allies are running to, while us Dagny Taggarts are hanging around trying to prop the place up on bubblegum and baling wire? Or is this just regular, gradual turn over being given a more interest narrative? Qwyrxian (talk) 12:48, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, I hope this Judge Narragansett moment doesn't last forever... Zad68 12:55, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just found out about this, and I want to come here and wish you the very best. Really! Whatever else, I hope to see you back around. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:08, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Formality

Arbcom filing notification

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Offsite comments and personal attacks and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

You are added because some arbs wish the case to discuss issues beyond the "Come on, baby, light my fire" incident.

Kiefer.Wolfowitz 17:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • who wants to know my opinion?
  • and on what? I think irc is bullshit and coteries are unbecoming.
  • irc isn't bullshit. bs is bullshit. irc is indefinite revisionist cruft. and coteries are very becoming when worn in a cote by the right sheep. ewe should know that.

Template:Did you know nominations/Gorges de Daluis

This is just a reminder that a QPQ review is still needed. SL93 (talk) 12:14, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Superscript twos

Just noticed this like five seconds ago. I know you're on vacation, but as a language/literature teacher you may find this interesting. A numeral 2 (either superscript like here, or in regular script like one of the quotes at Lie Kim Hok) stands for reduplication, a very common morphological feature of Indonesian. The first, "memper-main2kan" (as in the source) would be read mempermain-mainkan (to play with, over and over), with the lack of the space showing that a suffix is still attached. The second has a space after it because "ter-tunggu2" (tertunggu-tunggu, awaited a long time) does not have a suffix. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:44, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Since Drmies is currently elbow deep in his secret sex tourism jaunt, I butt in. That boggles my mind somehow: does formal writing admit this shorthand? Also, seeing that article for the first time, the semantics of Indonesian reduplication looks much more interesting than the ancient Greek system.  davidiad { t } 14:34, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not anymore (confined to text messages now, mostly), but in the 50s and 60s it seems to have been readily acceptable (A. Teeuw had already done his doctorate when he published Pokok dan Tokoh, and Nio Joe Lan was teaching history at a university when he published his book on Chinese Malay literature). Apparently, although I don't have an old grammar book to verify this, the old reduplication abbreviations were fairly standardised and took numerous forms... now, in my experience, you're most likely to find the twos after simple root word reduplication, rather than forms like memper-main2kan or whatnot. Reduplication serves numerous functions in Indonesian (11 if I remember correctly... I translated a book on Indonesian morphology a couple years ago, and I can consult it when I get back)... the most common is for plurals (anak-anak, or children; kucing-kucing, or cats). You can also express "imitation of", "to each other", "altogether", etc. depending on the reduplication and affix combo... "pukul-memukul" (root "pukul", or "hit", reduplicated with the me(N)- affix on the second "pukul" = "to hit each other") — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:57, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • Ha, thanks for clarifying. Sorry, I had no idea, but in hindsight it makes sense. What is "kakak laki-laki" again? David, I think you got me all wrong, but you're not the first and you won't be the last. Possibly the most exciting thing this vacation (besides seeing a glorious waterfall today--Whitewater Falls (North Carolina), which today had water over the full breadth of the fall, after the 18 1/2 inches of rain of the last two weeks--amazing) was that the dog chased a skunk and got sprayed. You won't believe the stench: she'll be in the shed until at least after her second peroxide treatment. Drmies (talk) 02:04, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        • "Elder brother". Peroxide? What happened to tomato juice? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:51, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
          • After your first post yesterday, Crisco, I read a bit more about Indonesian: I've been looking for a non-Indo-European language to study next, and this looks rewarding. Sounds like good clean fun, Drmies—I'd kill to be out of this penal colony and in the Northeast for just a few days. But, hold on? So more than once someone has noted your absence an said, "Good ol' Drmies: must be on a sex trip."?  davidiad { t } 11:39, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
            • It's a fun language, though it certainly feels like too many syllables when you start learning it (did for me, at least). Drmies and a sex trip? Well, we all know where Amsterdam is. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:47, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
              • I wish, Crisco. I miss it dearly. I'm sure it doesn't miss me. Also, apparently tomato juice does nothing (but stain everything else). [My aunt brought some words and phrases back from one of her many vacations in Indonesia. "Kakak laki-laki" is funny because it sounds a lot like "kakkerlak"--"cockroach".] Drmies (talk) 18:07, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
                • Ah, no wonder you asked about it. Something else interesting, a Dutch tourist I met said that some Indonesian terms are very much like outdated Dutch. The term for a muffler, for instance, is knalpot... I think he said in the Netherlands a different word is used now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:58, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hissy fit

Note to self and to you: Wikipedia_talk:Administrators#Resigning_adminship_in_anger. Those who know me or who've asked me know that my giving up the tool does not match the description given. Thanks, Bbb23, for the pointer. Drmies (talk) 02:24, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Seward

Hey Drmies -- I was reviewing articles at AfC and came across this submission for Bill Seward [2]. You closed a deletion discussion in January of this year for the article, the result was delete. I can't tell if the article has been improved since that discussion and thought you'd want to take a look. From a quick Google search, I would say that this individual is meets WP:BIO. If you're busy or just don't care, I'll likely review it myself. QuantifiedElf (talk) 20:47, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Town Range

Hi Drmies - could you possibly have another look at Town Range? It's been greatly expanded since you nominated it at AfD and I think, if you agree that it meets notability requirements now, it might save people's time if you reconsidered your nomination in the light of these changes. Prioryman (talk) 22:36, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Prioryman, I'll be happy to. You know I got some issues with the Gibraltar coverage, perhaps, but I wish to be fair about it. I am inclined to nominate all of those streets--only the friendship I have for Dr. Blofeld prevents me from doing so (I noticed that he created just about all of them). I just added a review to one of the Finlayson articles, and that guy's clearly notable--but the others need to go, in my opinion. Note this edit, for instance: that someone has to make an edit like that is a crying shame, especially for an article that went through DYK and has, presumably, been seen by, you know, an editor like you.

    I could go on, but I won't right now, and it's dinner time. I'll get back to that AfD, Prioryman; thank you for your note. Drmies (talk) 00:05, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    • Thanks for taking such a level-headed approach; it's a refreshing change from the way some others have approached things. I quite agree about the Amazon links being inappropriate. I've seen the article before but I had no idea that someone had added those links. Prioryman (talk) 05:49, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I have misjudged you yesterday. I had not noticed that the article had only been expanded to the state it was when I joined the discussion and it came after a long day of not only Gibraltar related content sillyness accross the pedia, the frustration of which you got the brunt of. Your further comments and actions show that your nomination was in good faith. Agathoclea (talk) 06:40, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you Agathoclea. I assure you there was no pointy intent. I hope the discussion above and the note on Blofeld's talk page show you that as well. My apologies if I came back a bit stronger than I should have; in the last few weeks my good faith has been questioned a few times and I suppose I'm a bit sensitive. Again, thank you for your note. Drmies (talk) 14:23, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Name change article-move

Hi Drmies. YouSendIt recently changed their name to Hightail. I've requested an article-move, but an editor noted that it may require an administrator (see here) since someone has already created a redirect from the Hightail page. He also noted building consensus? I would think someone could just be bold, but I dunno. Do you think I could ask you to take a look? CorporateM (Talk) 23:01, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Crisco! I know Hightail wanted "(formerly YouSendIt)" and the thought of there being naming policies didn't even cross my mind. So it's a good thing I used Request Edit in order to leave the decision up to disinterested editors. BTW, it always make me uncomfortable if editors require my support in a PR role in order to establish "consensus," but that's my fault for chirping in ;-)
Drmies, I didn't know you were de-admined, but Crisco's advice sounds good. I've been enjoying slowly working on History of public relations, where few other editors are involved. My PR work here is extremely slow, tedious, stressful, confrontational, etc. etc., so I enjoy just being bold in an area where I essentially get to call all the shots, since there are no other editors in site. The body of source material available is so vast though, I've started getting burnt out. CorporateM (Talk) 14:28, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hah! That's exactly how I feel about working in Indonesia-related areas (burning-out particularly on the really wide ones). It's a great thrill to not have to edit war, almost ever. The only time I have to revert vandals, or even interact with other editors on an article, is basically only for the tween faves like Cherrybelle and Coboy Junior (they both get a lot of hate, especially Cherrybelle. Drmies, your Korean fans are rabid). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:33, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Carter (real estate)

Hi Drmies,

Why did you remove the photos from Carter (real estate)? I have provided all the necessary items for the photos to be there. Please put them back. Thank you. Sduncan87 (talk) 18:01, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I cleaned up the promotionalism. If you agree, we can take down the advert tag. I've also posted some templates on duncan's Talk page and the article talk page about how to participate properly in a PR position. CorporateM (Talk) 18:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So can I replace the photos or will they be remove again? Please let me know. Thanks! Sduncan87 (talk) 17:46, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Facepalm

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Literally smacked my self in the face on your behalf. It hasn't always been like this has it? Maybe my version of the Wikipast is just rose colored. Noformation Talk 21:37, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, um... wow. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think the whole thing's horribly unfair. How come the Lady gets to be 25 twice, anyway? And if she gets any chocolate out of this, I think she should share.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:18, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Facepalm Facepalm is about right, although I think we could use somethin' somewha' stronger...chocolate I could provide, btw (Brussels!)...and to the op: no, it wasn't always like this....I remember times when you could just edit away...and became admin without drama. Sigh. Lectonar (talk) 22:26, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
eah, even Mrs. Drmies had a good laugh. You know what's funny, it seems to be that the charge is about body image. So we can talk about the mind, but not about the body--whereas more people here seem to suffer from mental than from physical problems. Moreover, it's the Internet: we don't have bodies.

What do we know? Killer Chihuahua was sick. Sitush was in hospital. Bibb has been putting on weight. My back went out this morning and I'm Rush Limbaughing it today. That's all. Talking about a supposed insult to the body, to women, to new editors, is a ruse. 68.117.251.28 (talk) 22:45, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • I agree with Fluffernutter on this one. The sexism comes in because you are appearing to belittle women who do not "graciously accept compliments" about their bodies, and to insinuate that LadyofShalott is an administratrice extraordinaire at least in part because of this gracious acceptance. It implies that any female administrator who does not appreciate commentary about their physical appearance (something that should have absolutely no relationship to Wikipedia) is somehow less extraordinary. And perhaps just as importantly, nobody can really conceive of you posting something about a male administrator's birthday, age or his preferred gifts on the Administrator's Noticeboard. Even at the best of times, it's a rather bizarre post. Risker (talk) 22:54, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • thanks for the attention, Risker--I'm flattered. I'd love to comment at length on your confirming the body fetishism you suggest you're combating, but I'm cooking dinner right now. The kids are hungry and this screen is too small. 68.117.251.28 (talk)<
    • Hmmm, I really do not know, but it could be that women actually to not feel belittled if they get compliments, especially from people they know...and I am quite sure the intent isn't to belittle her in any way, either. You can see sexism everywhere if you make an effort....I admit I found the posting rather charming...and yes, that's chauvinism for you. I will go and pay my wife a compliment now. Lectonar (talk) 23:00, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If he'd posted that on her user talk, and she didn't mind, it wouldn't be anywhere near the issue; it would be an interpersonal discussion between two individuals who know each other. Putting that on the administrator noticeboard is a different matter. Nowhere in my post did I say Drmies was belittling LadyofShalott. He's belittling all of the women administrators who don't appreciate such comments. Risker (talk) 23:04, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, you are right and I am wrong. The dear Dr. may comment on this, if he likes. Thanks for sharing opinions. Lectonar (talk) 23:08, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • What about when Giano pays himself compliments on his extraordinary physique and golden tan? Or when Bishzilla praises her own sexiness? She is kind of denigrating the other bishes in doing so. By which I mean that I don't really think we bring our bodies with us on the internet. Any compliments to them, as any chocolate offered to them, are by definition jokes. [Steals some of the chocolate.] Bishonen | talk 23:19, 17 July 2013 (UTC).[reply]
    • That piece of chocolate was mine. And note that Drmies once referred to me as my wife's "sexy husband" at DYK. I felt belittled. My wife's article got to be on the main page, and I was just her sex object. It took me months to recover. (P.S.: Said wife is sending you best wishes, Drmies. Wikipedia has always had a bit of a problem understanding humour and gallantry.) Andreas JN466 00:31, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I try to be an equal-opportunity offender, Jayen. How is the lovely Draco? Still causing trouble? (Speaking of main page--do I smell a Crisco on today's main page?) Risker, I can't follow your logic. I didn't "pick" LadyofShalott because she's a woman, but because it's her birthday and she's an admin. I'm also friends (on Facebook) with Ched and with Kelapstick, and neither of them happen to have a birthday today, as far as I know.

    Now, as far as that precious AN board is concerned, it's boring, it doesn't show much evidence of hard work (note the long list of RfCs), and apparently folks are free to completely belittle others as long as they refrain from using the word "asshole" (but "Fanboy" used to talk to an admin is apparently perfectly fine, or perhaps I missed someone admonishing someone for that astounding insult). Hey, at least I didn't threaten to set some other editor on fire and burn him alive. If I were a new editor and I saw the flood of self-righteous commentary in that thread, I'd be wondering if this is where I wanted to hang out. Now, you're not asking, but I'll tell you anyway: what I wanted was to give a shout-out to a hardworking administrator who doesn't make many waves, doesn't attract a lot of attention, doesn't seek to apply civility blocks on people, and is one of the most helpful people ever. It's the loudmouths on AN and ANI who attract all the attention, and I'm probably one of them, and some of them are real big fat jerks (I'm probably one of them). The Lady is a wonderful human being, and if anyone thinks that she got called out for her womanhood they're only confirming their own stereotypes, transferred or not. Drmies (talk) 01:07, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Correct Drmies, I do not have a birthday today. My nephew does, and he just turned 0. I can't think of a better person for him to share a birthday with. --kelapstick(bainuu) 01:16, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have no doubt that LadyofShalott is a wonderful human being and a fine administrator. Neither has anything to do with the beauty of her body. However, now that you've started, I think it is time for you to resume the work of the Birthday wikiproject (or whatever that was called back in the day) by consistently and pithily wishing all and sundry a happy birthday. Adding a "happy birthday" section onto the admin noticeboards would be an improvement generally speaking, and I can only wish that you'd had the presence of mind to call it an incident to justify adding the birthday section onto that page. Well, the community is nothing if not flexible; I'm sure everyone can adapt. Risker (talk) 01:23, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Call me unenlightened if you want, but considering the very healthy (and sometimes quite adorkable) relationship between Drmies and LoS (who somehow hasn't commented here yet), I find myself quite agreeing with PSky. Drmies, I'd have found a better crowd though. ANI can turn anything back on its poster... did you see the one where an editor brought up someone for serial copyvios, only to have another editor essentially say those weren't (legally) considered copyvios, and the whole problem went unsolved? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:40, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mark, I think Ironholds is American. Drmies is pseudo American (your stroopwafels belie you, Drmies), and LOS is American. So both sides of the spectrum. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:40, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't piss Ironholds off; he might block me again, without warning. Crisco, I saw that: good luck with it, admin. Also, the Lady is busy with personal affairs, and if you have a thought to spare for her, that would be appreciated. Drmies (talk) 01:08, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • If this is part of an ongoing culture of fun and jokes between Drmies, LoS and their friends, it's all good fun. If it's not, then it;'s some creepy weird stalker thing... But given it's Drmies, I suspect the former.  :-) But yeah, to post at dramafest central? Facepalm Facepalm Montanabw(talk) 01:11, 18 July 2013 (UTC) (aka major American feminist- for those who didn't already know this)[reply]
  • No disrespect to anyone here, especially those of you I recognize, all of whom I respect, but I'm sick of the compulsion around here to discuss everything that happens here. The past two weeks have been such nonsense. A holiday dinner of Wikipedians would be an abattoir  davidiad { t } 01:20, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • This year has been a lot of nonsense... I think the only food consumed at a Wikipedia holiday "dinner" is whatever mashed potatoes hit one gobsmack in the nose and slide into our open mouths while we scream "This. Is. Wiki!" — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TFA

When an article's been up for 13 hours and this is the only edit it receives, is that good or bad? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:19, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • That is an interesting conundrum! Yes and no, haha. Hey, I went to bed last night not remembering if I had congratulated you on this front-page billing. If I haven't, my apologies. I was also wondering if Chinezenmoord wasn't the biggest thrill ever in your career as an editor. Hey, are you considering at all coming back to this side of the globe for your Ph.D.? Davidiad could give you some advice on where not to go... Oh, one more thing, if you ever start making babies, make a note of the conceptual event, if you know what I'm saying. Wives/mothers seem to remember those kinds of things, and they'll be impressed if you do too. Drmies (talk) 13:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • US/Canada would be okay, though the programs are not as numerous. Chinezenmoord was a thrill, particularly as I found out that people were actually discussing it in forums because of the TFA, but to be honest ? was my biggest thrill. I still laugh every time I see a giant question mark. That and the 200k hits. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:35, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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