Talk:Avengers: Age of Ultron

Copy and paste move

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The new Kevin Feige quote

This just seems like a typical non-answer from someone trying to dodge a question. I don't think it really enhances anyone's understanding of the film's development, or adds anything to the article. It seems to me like it's enough to note that EW reported that the character will be in the film, and then if they happen to be written out of a later draft we can note that then. But I don't think a "maybe, maybe not, things change!" quote really belongs. -Fandraltastic (talk) 17:55, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I see your point. It is already stated the its a draft, and by definition drafts can change.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 18:44, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I have removed it. -Fandraltastic (talk) 21:16, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Quicksilver

Is it worth noting at all that Quicksilver has just been announced to appear in X-Men: Days of Future Past? Only reason I ask is because of the whole character rights situation, as Fox and Marvel Studios can both use the character, but Marvel can only use it without alluding to "mutants". It has been mentioned in sources about the predicament and what it would mean now in regards to Avengers 2 as it will be released after DoFP. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:54, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I think so, once we know more about what this means for Avengers 2.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:23, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't mean anything for Avengers, Fox owns the rights to Quicksilver, Marvel owns the rights to Pietro Maximoff, neither can refer to him by the other name. They were saying this back before The Avengers even began production. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

It's my understanding that they both own the rights to both names, but that they each can only reference certain aspects of the character's history. It is probably worth mentioning, but only when we have reliable sources indicating the specifics of how this influences his role in this film. -Fandraltastic (talk) 21:30, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

We can wait until there is concrete information about how this actually affects the portrayal of Quicksilver in this movie, because right now we can only speculate or surmise what they will do. Spidey104 23:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

My understanding was similar to Fandraltastic's: that Marvel was allowed to use the character as long as they didn't reference Magneto or that he was a "mutant". That's why I brought it up. But as everyone is saying, we will have to wait until more info is known for Avengers 2 obviously, but if both studios are going to use the character, it will be interesting to see how they approach this so the general public does not get confused. Just wanted to get the situation out there. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:03, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Minor update: It appears Joss plans to continue on with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 05:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Saoirse Ronan

As stated in the sources, this appears only to be rumor at this point. Unfortunately, these types of films are prone to rumor and speculation. Some pick up traction in the press and a few are even addressed by those involved. However, I do not think it is appropriate to include them.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 06:04, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Agree. If we did include this rumor, then we are essentially saying, let's allow all rumors on to the page. If she is eventually brought on for the role, we can add a bit on how she was widely considered for the part before getting it, if necessary. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:18, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

I had placed this information in the article figuring that Ronan's statement regarding the rumors lent some level of credence to them. That was a bit of a fine line and upon consideration, one that should have required more patience on my part for a formal casting announcement. Chalk it up to over-enthusiasm for seeing a favorite character finally appearing in a live action film. Mea culpa. Hopefully by the time of the San Diego Comic-Con International there will be official word on the role. Mtminchi08 (talk) 01:44, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

Wikipedia:Article incubator/The Avengers 2 → The Avengers 2 – Article has reached 25 references Richiekim (talk) 17:06, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Comment: There is no 25 reference rule just something we used in the past but I'm beginning to think we can afford to wait for more considering the media attention this film is getting and the fact that we're still a year away from when filming is scheduled to begin. Although the media attention might make it more notable now, it just seems 25 references isn't what it used to be for these types of film. I don't know.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:28, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

There's also no evidence that The Avengers 2 is the name of the film, given the rest of the films that are subtitled it seems unlikely. If anything it would be moved to United The Avengers Sequel. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:31, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

The WP:COMMONNAME does seem to be The Avengers 2. The press release from Marvel about RDJ's casting indicates that the official name is Marvel's The Avengers 2, although that could change.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:40, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia page for Thor: The Dark World was originally titled Thor 2 before Marvel officially announced the title of the film, so The Avengers 2 would be an acceptable title, as that's what the majority of the press are referring to it as, even though I believe it's likely that Marvel will add a subtitle to the film. Richiekim (talk) 22:00, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

I think we should wait a little bit longer as well, as I'm sure it will start gain some more media traction. As for the name, I think The Avengers 2 will be fine for the moment, but I do think it will have a subtitle, as in Marvel's The Avengers: (something). I think Feige even stated somewhere that he would be "surprised" if it didn't, and he was a fan of how Star Wars has labeled their films. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:49, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

• Cautious support; if there's a lot of references I think we're alright. Titles can be moved. I think we have enough to go on for an article. Red Slash 18:14, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
• Procedural close. WP:RM is not for evaluating incubator status. Apteva (talk) 21:36, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Maybe so but copy-paste moves are never the answer. In the future, if consensus is that the article is ready, please request a technical move.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:19, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

With the recent announcement of the full title and the villain for the film it is getting "more media traction." More people are going to be looking for information on this film now, and I think a lot of people are going to try creating articles for it if they don't find one. So I think it should be moved to full article now. Spidey104 17:06, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

• Support: I would be in support of a move to the article space, if only to quell any errant attempts at creating the article. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:44, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
• Comment: We already have our first attempt, copy and paste move by an IP, here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:37, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I wonder if we should just WP:BEBOLD, and then deal with its merits.TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I think so too. I don't really see any fall back from it. We will only just be adding info here, so why not be doing it in the article space? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:47, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Also name is Marvel's The Avengers: Age of Ultron. Source. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:56, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

We can try requesting a technical move.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:10, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Can we not just use the drop down arrow, select "Move", then in the selection to where to move it, select "Article" and put the name (as where we want to move is just a redirect)? Won't that move the page history and talk page with it? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:15, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

You can try but it might not work because of the redirect.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:36, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Will give it a shot right now to see. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:06, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Didn't work. Got "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason: The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name, or use Requested moves to ask an administrator to help you with the move. Do not manually move the article by copying and pasting it; the page history must be moved along with the article text." I can submit a request to be moved. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:08, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Hopefully we are in business: Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#movereq-Wikipedia:Article Incubator/The Avengers: Age of Ultron - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:19, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Non-appearing cast

Joss Whedon recently stated that Coulson will not be in this film. I already added this information to the Phil Coulson article, but I wasn't sure if I should add this information to the "Cast" section of this article or not. It is news about this film, but it's news of something not happening. It's not a black-or-white include or not-include situation. What do you think? Spidey104 20:21, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

A non-appearance is not notable unless he/she was previously scheduled to appear.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:25, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 July 2013

There is no "the" in the title of the film. It is simply titled, "Avengers: Age of Ultron".

The logo: http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/avengers-age-of-ultron-logo-slice.jpg 24.121.188.207 (talk) 20:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)