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:::Secondly the are numerous inaccuracies. Firstly, Tyrrell first entered Formula One in 1968 utilising Matras and first entered a Grand Prix at the [[1966 German Grand Prix]] with a Formula 2 Matra. BMW was always refered to as BMW Sauber, not BMW. Also BMW did ''not'' enter Formula one in 1952 and 1953, but rather privateers who owned cars built by BMW. Toyota, Ligier and Prost are not on the chart anywhere so why are they mentioned at all? The various Lotuses are connected by name only which is incorrectly explained. Renault, Honda, Mercedes-Benz and BMW (inaccurately) have two teams explained but the two Williams teams are not mentioned. Minardi/Toro Rosso bar makes no mention of the 1994 merger with BMW Scuderia Italia. |
:::Secondly the are numerous inaccuracies. Firstly, Tyrrell first entered Formula One in 1968 utilising Matras and first entered a Grand Prix at the [[1966 German Grand Prix]] with a Formula 2 Matra. BMW was always refered to as BMW Sauber, not BMW. Also BMW did ''not'' enter Formula one in 1952 and 1953, but rather privateers who owned cars built by BMW. Toyota, Ligier and Prost are not on the chart anywhere so why are they mentioned at all? The various Lotuses are connected by name only which is incorrectly explained. Renault, Honda, Mercedes-Benz and BMW (inaccurately) have two teams explained but the two Williams teams are not mentioned. Minardi/Toro Rosso bar makes no mention of the 1994 merger with BMW Scuderia Italia. |
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:::Thirdly, there is no mention of how this chart has overcome the problems which saw it deleted three years ago. --[[Special:Contributions/124.179.98.190|124.179.98.190]] ([[User talk:124.179.98.190|talk]]) 03:14, 15 August 2013 (UTC) |
:::Thirdly, there is no mention of how this chart has overcome the problems which saw it deleted three years ago. --[[Special:Contributions/124.179.98.190|124.179.98.190]] ([[User talk:124.179.98.190|talk]]) 03:14, 15 August 2013 (UTC) |
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::::Fourthly this chart in no way explains team ownership just how the teams have changed hands. |
::::Fourthly this chart in '''no way''' explains team ownership just how the teams have changed hands. A historical list of team owners whould list people like [[Bernie Ecclestone]], [[Enzo Ferrari]], Dietrich Mietsisch, Frank Williams, Jack Brabham, Max Mosely, Ron Dennis, Andrea Lucchinni, Giancarlo Minardi, Robin Herd, Bruce McLaren, Colin Chapman, Ken Tyrrell etc |
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::::Fifthly, perhaps this has been addressed previously by [[:Category:Formula One team owners]]. --[[Special:Contributions/124.179.98.190|124.179.98.190]] ([[User talk:124.179.98.190|talk]]) 03:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC) |
::::Fifthly, perhaps this has been addressed previously by [[:Category:Formula One team owners]]. --[[Special:Contributions/124.179.98.190|124.179.98.190]] ([[User talk:124.179.98.190|talk]]) 03:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Controversy about the Sky / BBC deal could be added? At the time, it was very popular in the news about Formula 1 becoming a "Pay TV" programme due to the BBC only being able to broadcast half. It may also be quite significant in terms of the popularity of the sport. Just a thought - Predspread (talk) 19:45, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- Not very import in the history of Formula One is it? Didn't affect the outcome of any races did it? --Falcadore (talk) 16:40, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
- I see where you're coming from, but it was the first time that every race in the calendar wasn't available for non-Pay TV viewers. Predspread (talk) 03:27, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
'DRS' drag reduction system
The 'DRS' drag reduction system needs to be covered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.208.204.151 (talk) 17:01, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- In what way do you mean? Nothing has really changed for this season. Britmax (talk) 21:13, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Drag reduction system has its own article. --138.130.128.28 (talk) 04:32, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
The Formula
Given that the lead makes it clear that formula 1 is essentially a set of standards to do with the cars and conditions of the races that run under that name I find it odd that these rules aren't actually laid out in the article. It seems to me that It would be useful to lay out at least the basic rules somewhere near the top of the article or at least provide a link in the lead to a full set of the specifications of formula 1 (if such a thing exists and is accessible). 110.33.144.12 (talk) 15:27, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've added a link in the lead to the Formula One regulations page, which covers the basics. If you want the full rules, the regulations are accessible through the links at the bottom of the page. Thanks. QueenCake (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Cronology of Formula One teams present in the 2013 season
I propose to add this table. This information appears in the article of F1 of spanish, and some users has asked for information like this. What do you think?
1950 Years | 1960 Years | 1970 Years | 1980 Years | 1990 Years | 2000 Years | 2010 Years | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | ||
Ferrari (1950–) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
McLaren (1966–) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Tyrrell (1970–1998) | BAR (1999–2005) | Honda (2006–2008) | Brawn (2009) | Mercedes (2010-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Williams (1977–) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Toleman (1981–1985) | Benetton (1986–2001) | Renault (2002–2011) | Lotus (2012-) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Minardi (1985–2005) | Toro Rosso (2006–) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Jordan (1991–2005) | Midland (2006) | Spyker (2007) | Force India (2008–) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sauber (1993–2005) | BMW (2006–2009) | Sauber (2010-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Stewart (1997–1999) | Jaguar (2000–2004) | Red Bull (2005–) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lotus Racing (2010) | Team Lotus (2011) | Caterham (2012-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Virgin (2010-2011) | Marussia (2012-) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
† The reason that Renault, Honda y Mercedes-Benz competed before and did not appear on this list is because they were not Toleman and Tyrrell predecessors respectively. Unlike the case of Sauber, which it was. Team Lotus also participated previously in Formula One between 1958 and 1994, and BMW did the same in 1952 and 1953.
† Prost GP was the successor of Ligier in 1997. The Toyota team was Prost's successor following the acquisition of its technology in 2002. |
In the late 2000s, following the 2008 economic crisis, the withdrawal occurs several Formula One teams like Super Aguri, Honda, BMW and Toyota.[1][2]
- In 2012 the Spanish team HRT failed to raise the money to pay the FIA to participate in 2013 Season.
- It needs to be cleaned up a bit (grammar, etc), but I like it. Very informative. ColinClark (talk) 18:50, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you! It happens that i´m uruguayan, so i speak a native spanish and a basic english. If you want, you can put how it should be explained in each point with a better use of grammar. Greetings.--Fmln93 (talk) 02:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- It is necesary to considerer this case:
115.166.61.210 posted this comment on 28 October 2012 (view all feedback).
I was looking for a historical list of team owners.
- Considering this request, and that almost three users agree on the use of this table, I propose to add it when (at least) has not grammatical errors. Greetings.--Fmln93 (talk) 03:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- It has the same problems when it was deleted two years ago. It is a hideous mass of colour, colour which is unexplained by by the lack of pictures of race cars related to the chart. Charts like this should have an emphasis on neutral high-contrast colour schemes, remembering that the audience for people who read wikipedia are people who know little about Formula One, especially what colours the cars are. Also these sort of colour schemes created visibility problems for the partially blind and the colour-blind.
- Secondly the are numerous inaccuracies. Firstly, Tyrrell first entered Formula One in 1968 utilising Matras and first entered a Grand Prix at the 1966 German Grand Prix with a Formula 2 Matra. BMW was always refered to as BMW Sauber, not BMW. Also BMW did not enter Formula one in 1952 and 1953, but rather privateers who owned cars built by BMW. Toyota, Ligier and Prost are not on the chart anywhere so why are they mentioned at all? The various Lotuses are connected by name only which is incorrectly explained. Renault, Honda, Mercedes-Benz and BMW (inaccurately) have two teams explained but the two Williams teams are not mentioned. Minardi/Toro Rosso bar makes no mention of the 1994 merger with BMW Scuderia Italia.
- Thirdly, there is no mention of how this chart has overcome the problems which saw it deleted three years ago. --124.179.98.190 (talk) 03:14, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- Fourthly this chart in no way explains team ownership just how the teams have changed hands. A historical list of team owners whould list people like Bernie Ecclestone, Enzo Ferrari, Dietrich Mietsisch, Frank Williams, Jack Brabham, Max Mosely, Ron Dennis, Andrea Lucchinni, Giancarlo Minardi, Robin Herd, Bruce McLaren, Colin Chapman, Ken Tyrrell etc
- Fifthly, perhaps this has been addressed previously by Category:Formula One team owners. --124.179.98.190 (talk) 03:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- Considering this request, and that almost three users agree on the use of this table, I propose to add it when (at least) has not grammatical errors. Greetings.--Fmln93 (talk) 03:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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