User talk:Insomniaingest

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July 2013

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page LGBT rights in Bahrain has been reverted.
Your edit here to LGBT rights in Bahrain was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed (http://gaymiddleeast.blogspot.com) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. If the external link you inserted or changed was to a blog, forum, free web hosting service, fansite, or similar site (see 'Links to avoid', #11), then please check the information on the external site thoroughly. Note that such sites should probably not be linked to if they contain information that is in violation of the creator's copyright (see Linking to copyrighted works), or they are not written by a recognised, reliable source. Linking to sites that you are involved with is also strongly discouraged (see conflict of interest).
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August 2013

Hello. Your recent edits seem to be motivated from a Persian-POV; you've been removing the word "Arab" from many articles, including articles which deal specifically with Arab affairs such as your move of Arab States of the Persian Gulf into States of the Persian Gulf. Please stop this behavior as it is very disruptive to the encyclopedia. Mohamed CJ (talk) 13:39, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not motivated from a Persian point of view, the article was initially named "Arab States of the Persian Gulf" which itself is biased and lacks neutrality in the naming dispute. In both local Khaleeji usage, terminology and international usage, those countries are generally referred to as simply "Gulf states" rather than the "Arab states of the Persian Gulf". I wanted to move the title's page to simply "Gulf states" but was unable to do so (don't know why). The states of the Persian Gulf article should be re-named "Gulf states" to avoid all bias and both POVs. The article's current title is "states of the Persian Gulf" - seemingly shorter than the initial title and leans less toward any specific viewpoint. Maybe "States in the Gulf" is better? Insomniaingest 14:15, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry that I characterized you as editing from a POV, it was really not a good thing to begin with. We should not be considering the local usage, instead we follow the most common name in English language reliable sources (see WP:COMMON). A Google search for "Arab states of the Persian Gulf" returns about 5,030,000 results in contrast "Gulf states" returns about 5,510,000 results. This shows that both uses are very common. You weren't able to move the article, because a redirect already exists, and only Admins can move over a redirect. To properly request a move, especially for such controversial topics that are discussed over and over in talk pages, you should follow instruction here: WP:RM/CM, but I'd recommend reading WP:MOVE first. Mohamed CJ (talk) 15:14, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I would like to also note that I have no problem with the name Persian Gulf as you seem to have implied. The name is the most common in English language reliable sources and thus we use it. Mohamed CJ (talk) 15:18, 16 August 2013 (UTC)