Talk:Mystique (character)

Is her last name Darkholme or Darkhölme? I'm imagining I've seen it with an umlaut. Ventifax

Limitations

Just human shape? In the movie, she assumed the shape of a minature Statue of Liberty. --Menchi 07:43, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)

It wasn't a miniature, it was a human sized statue. On the X-Men 1.5 DVD, Bryan Singer says he doesn't know if her becoming a statue was allowed in the comics. --Sketchee 23:32, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

Essentially. They've stretched things a few times - having her take on Angel's (feathered) wings and imitating Mojo, but she's always been humanoid or near enough - SoM 00:50, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

How far can she heal can she grow arms back or is it like Wolverine

Grammar

The grammar in this article needs to be combed through and cleaned up. Also, at one point, we have a reference to Graydon Creed being a homo spaien as opposed to homo superor, or mutant. However, has it not been revealed that mutants are actually homo sapien superior and humans are homo sapien sapiens? Zephyrprince 20:42, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Did some of this today, but only by sections. Probably missed some, since I'm not a Mystique-expert (actually came here reading, not editing). -- nae'blis _(talk) 16:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Sexuality?

Why was the tag for "Category:Fictional gays and lesbians" taken off?Zephyrprince 16:03, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

It seems to have been restored by now... I've also added a trivia bit on her being the only character in the Marvel Universe openly depicted as bisexual... I'm guessing this can be taken as fact...?Zeppocity 03:40, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Do you mean the LGBT category? I think someone might have removed it because they didn't know what it meant when they saw "LGBT"; when I first saw it I didn't know what it meant either. -- VederJuda 13:40, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

No, it was removed when it was under the category Category:Fictional gays and lesbians. It was done by the user Merman, who also removed the gay content from the Alan Cumming article. --DrBat 14:31, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

I'm thinking that Mystique may be the most well-known bisexual character in the Marvel Universe. There has not been a great negative reaction to this, due to the lesser stigma being attached to bisexual (especially female) characters than the few of those who are male homosexual, as shown notably by the popularity of lesbian pornography among young celibate men, composing the core audience of comic readers. can be trimmed down to remove the theorizing. Thoughts? 204.69.40.7 13:48, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Overstated and unnecessary - her (questionable) bisexuality does not need to become a mini-treatise on the [greater] acceptability of female homosexuality. Nevermind the presumption that the "core audience" of comic books are "young celibate men". There's no evidence to support that statement, nor is there any reason for it to be in an article about Mystique. The whole paragraph is pretty much useless for this article. Godheval 14:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

The Destiny article states that it has been confirmed that she and Mystique are NOT lovers, yet this article says that they were in a "relationship", within the context of her bisexuality. The implication there is misleading, unless the information cited in the Destiny article is false. I'm going to fix it. If I'm wrong, feel free to change it back. Godheval 14:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

And so now, barring the relationship with Destiny, what evidence do we have for her bisexuality? Godheval 14:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not so sure the Destiny article is correct as the "not" was recently edited in. Seems to be a revert war in the making to me. Destiny is called Mystique's "leman" in Uncanny X-Men #265 and I believe that X-Men Forever just flatout confirms it, but I don't have the copies of that here so I'm not reverting until I have checked. Dizzy D 02:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

There was always her solo series which has her in male form checking out a girl. Of course, it could be argued that she was doing this to blend in, but that seems a bit loose. I was at an X-Men panel in Wizard World Chicago and I had asked a question about whether or not her sexuality would be discussed in her title and they said it wouldn't in order to keep the book's current rating (can't remember if it was PG or PSR at the time) but that they may hint at it.--Tuberculosisness 03:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

"trivia"

the trivia section states that only the externals and exodus are older than mystique, with the publication of origin has it not shown that wolverine is, if not older, at least as old as mystique? Olthar 04:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Not to mention Apocalypse... 'Poxy is far older.

Editorializing

"The position of her naked body and the expression of pain, shame, violation, humiliation and loss on her face make her symbolic to a rape victim."

This may or may not be true, but what does it have to do with the factual description of the events. You might as well say "Mystique's blue skin make her symbolic to a blueberry".

This is not fact; It's exposition, and detracts from the article.