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: Your block extension has been rescinded. Your original block will be expiring tomorrow, but you're worried about not being able to send emails via Wikipedia between now and then? How is that a not waste of block reviewers time? <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<font color="#D47C14">itsJamie</font>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 01:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC) |
: Your block extension has been rescinded. Your original block will be expiring tomorrow, but you're worried about not being able to send emails via Wikipedia between now and then? How is that a not waste of block reviewers time? <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<font color="#D47C14">itsJamie</font>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 01:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:: Dear [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|Ohnoitsjamie]], the purpose of my appeal (or any appeal, for that matter) is to have someone else review 2 decisions, which in my opinion are a result of a very bad judgement. I hope anyone will do the same if he or she encounters a wrong decision taken by an Administrator, here and anywhere. So to answer your question: No. I am not worried about not being able to send emails via Wikipedia between yesterday and this morning... My appeal is about the 2 wrong decisions, and especially because I don't think any editor should ever have the slightest fear or hesitation to send an email to an Administrator about anything! Have a nice day! M. H. 08:38, 24 August 2013 (UTC) |
:: Dear [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|Ohnoitsjamie]], the purpose of my appeal (or any appeal, for that matter) is to have someone else review 2 decisions, which in my opinion are a result of a very bad judgement. I hope anyone will do the same if he or she encounters a wrong decision taken by an Administrator, here and anywhere. So to answer your question: No. I am not worried about not being able to send emails via Wikipedia between yesterday and this morning... My appeal is about the 2 wrong decisions, and especially because I don't think any editor should ever have the slightest fear or hesitation to send an email to an Administrator about anything! Have a nice day! M. H. 08:38, 24 August 2013 (UTC) |
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I do hope that you have not created and edited with {{user|Yuvalg9}}. Reasonable means exist to identify sockpuppets, so if it is yours, I hope that it is retired pretty quickly. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 11:24, 24 August 2013 (UTC) |
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::You must be joking! I had enough with these accusations! To the best of my knowledge, Yuvalg9 is [[http://www.linkedin.com/pub/yuval-goldstein/34/94a/90b Yuval Goldstein]] who partnered with [[Oren_Peli|Oren Peli]] (who is now famos for his films) and developed a well know software product named [[Photon_Paint|Photon Paint]], and I won't be surprised if he has been an editor in Wikipedia years before I became. Please take back this accusation!!!M. H. 11:35, 24 August 2013 (UTC) |
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== Finding sources == |
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The first magazine you mentioned reviewing your old software has its issues backed up at various places. I need to know what issue you were in. Google for "Amiga User International" or the name of any other magazine, and you can usually find archives of it. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 23:49, 24 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:I actually found online archives of Amiga World and Amazing Computing, and so does the review from the Italian Magazine. The review from Amiga User International is scanned from paper, even though I found an online source for these, but apparently the issue with the review is missing there (they have about 80% of the issues). |
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:this [http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/amiga/magazines/amazing_computing.htm web site] holds all scanned volumes of [[Amazing Computing]] and [http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/amiga/magazines/amiga_world.htm here] you can find issues of [[Amiga World]]. The scanned articles from these magazine in my Flickr page are from there and I have indicated month and year, so you can verify each and one of them. Thanks. M. H. 06:03, 25 August 2013 (UTC) |
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== Messages from [[User:Gaijin42|Gaijin42]] == |
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Socking encompasses more than just using multiple accounts. [[WP:MEATPUPPET]] perfectly describes those who saw your Amiga forum post and came here to vote on your behalf. Cesar in particular perfectly fits this description (A brand new account who's very first edit is to !vote keep on your article! Amazing! How did he even know there was such a thing as AFD?) [[User:Gaijin42|Gaijin42]] ([[User talk:Gaijin42|talk]]) 14:33, 26 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:Yes I am aware of what [[WP:MEATPUPPET]] is, and no one has every voted in my behalf. Any one who voted, even if that was due to the message about the debate in an Amiga forum (which is perfectly OK as long as it is within the limitations and natural), is not a [[WP:MEATPUPPET]]. A [[WP:MEATPUPPET]] would be someone that allows me to operate form his or her account either by me actually using his/her credentials or by me sending him/her instructions as for what to do. That did not happen. Please note that even brand new accounts are permitted to vote. I have seen Cesar's vote and it looks like someone new (see the Talk page of the AfD), but he has some strong arguments which are sadly not counted as votes, that is because the AfD is semi-protected. --M. H. 17:51, 26 August 2013 (UTC) |
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::The forum posting is NOT natural, and NOT acceptable, under any circumstance. You need to reread [[WP:MEATPUPPET]] "High-profile disputes on Wikipedia often bring new editors to the site. Some individuals may promote their causes by bringing like-minded editors into the dispute. These editors are sometimes referred to as meatpuppets, following a common Internet usage. While Wikipedia assumes good faith, especially for new users, '''recruiting new editors to influence decisions on Wikipedia is prohibited'''. A new user who engages in the same behavior as another user in the same context, and who appears to be editing Wikipedia solely for that purpose, may be subject to the remedies applied to the user whose behavior they are joining." and "'''In votes or vote-like discussions, new users may be disregarded or given significantly less weight, especially if there are many of them expressing the same opinion. Their comments may be tagged with a note pointing out that they have made few or no other edits outside of the discussion.'''" [[User:Gaijin42|Gaijin42]] ([[User talk:Gaijin42|talk]]) 17:55, 26 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:::The votes are far from expressing the same opinion. The dispute is minor and not "high-profile". The Amiga community is very small and the message in the Amiga Software page made them aware of the article being nominated for deletion. My message was not oriented for keeping the article or deleting it but invited them to join the debate keeping the rule of making them "'limited and reflected a neutral point of view". Any how, the message was deleted and I am willing to remove the offsite message as well just to be on the safe side here. --M. H. 18:14, 26 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:::Following my last message, I personally disagree with your stand and interpretation which I think you are taking too far. In the other hand, you seems to be a reputed editor with a lot of experience, so to be on the safe side, I am now deleting the off site message entirely. M. H. 18:19, 26 August 2013 (UTC) |
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::::You have already admitted that your forum posting was not neutral, and explicitly asked for help in saving the article. Nice try. [[WP:CIR]] and your repeated ignorance and misinterpretation of the policy will lead you to a block. MANY people have now said your actions were inappropriate, and specifically called them socking and canvassing. (As multiple accounts related to your name have previously been blocked for socking, it remains to be seen what happens with this account) There is no conspiracy against you. Your interpretation of the policy is incorrect. Your attempts to hand-wave away the infractions and justify them is transparent and weak. If this article survives, it will be because the sources are sufficient. But repeat your actions like you have done here, and it will not go well for you. It may be that this article is worthy, and is kept. But you really need to take a step back and learn the rules if you want to participate in wikipedia. (Assuming you are not blocked as a sock of Photopinka as [[User:Haephrati]] already was.) |
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:::::Regarding the deletion of the message, it doesn't mean much since the eliciting the users to come here has already taken place. You can't retroactively uninvite them, so it doesn't help a whole lot. [[User:Gaijin42|Gaijin42]] ([[User talk:Gaijin42|talk]]) 18:26, 26 August 2013 (UTC) |
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::::::I don't see anything wrong in this message and I explained why. Any one, including me, have the right to hold an opinion and I acted based on my understanding of what is right and what is wrong. To the best of my knowledge (or better to say, my personal feeling), the voters that voted since this forum message was posted didn't come following it (and haven't seen it), but they are experienced editors who saw the article in the list of AfDs page or the rescue list. M. H. 18:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:::::::Regarding your following comment: "You have already admitted that your forum posting was not neutral, and explicitly asked for help in saving the article", I resent that I insist that you take your words back. The version that I understood and admitted that was not neutral was deleted by me after several minutes and definitely few people have seen it, if any. I am shocked that you waste all that time writing to me again and again (I am tempted to say: harassing me...) makes me wonder what really bothers you. Is it so hard to read my talk page and understand that the post that I have deleted is NOT the post that I have admitted to be wrong??? Writing to me "nice try" is inappropriate behavior and since we are here no write an encyclopedia and not to mingle or make friends, there is no reason for you to be cynical. Please respect me, same way as I respect you. After being told that the tone must be neutral, I edited the original forum message (on site, first and then off site). I apologized and the new wording was basically: informing people form the Amiga community that there is such debate and that they can participate and vote for deleting or for keeping the article. You and I have no dispute over the original version, but about the revised one. Don't forget that following my original forum message, my account was blocked for 36 hours. After fixing the wording, no one have ever asked me to delete it or had any complaints. Maybe people are complaining about me but I haven't heard about any complain until you wrote about it today, and not long after I have deleted this message not because I agree with you but because I want to be on the safe side. Regarding taking a step back and learning the rules, I will certainly do that but I resent your tone and accusations "Your attempts to hand-wave away the infractions and justify them is transparent and weak". I was honest and acted in good faith and am not trying to justify anything. On the contrary. When I made a mistake I apologied. I don't know what "transparent" or "weak" means to you because there is only one truth... I am being straight forward here and yet I get these ricochets form you. Think about it: had I published a forum post saying only: "Rashumon was a word processor for the Amiga. I am looking for news items and articles about it" even that could have theoretically bring people to the debate... They would have Googled "Rashumon" got to the article (first search result), see the debate and maybe vote. I didn't do it but instead did it openly, signed my name, listed the Amiga forum in my references and needless to say, didn't try to hide it. --M. H. 18:59, 26 August 2013 (UTC) |
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—== FYI == |
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Unlike you, I have 8 years of constructive edits under a single, stable account. A psychopath who is now permanently banned from English Wikipedia outed me and started harassing my employers, so I stopped using this account in February. I tried several times to create clean start accounts, but some other aggressive editors (almost all now banned/blocked) outed me again. I figured it wasn't worth it anymore, so I came back to this account and asked Salvio to block all tge others. If you have a problem with my activities, ask JoshuSasori, LittleBenW, Tristan noir or Bagworm how that worked out for them when they tried it. Or, for that matter, ask ArbCom why they still let me edit under my original account. [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 14:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:Let's both calm down. I am sorry if I have offended you in any way. However, kindly please take back your cursing (asking me to shove things in my a**) and remove your vote, which clearly came from personal emotions. I hope we are now on the same page. I also do sincerely hope that we now cooperate together contributing to Wikipedia. M. H. 14:07, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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::My comment is already hidden, because no one ever reads the talk pages of AFDs. That's why I don't appreciate you effectively deleting all my comments on the AFD. While my comment may have included two semi-vulgar curse words (believe me, I '''wanted''' to go '''much''' worse than "goddamn"), but your vicious and highly offensive personal attack that provoked me to such was '''''MUCH''''' worse. Also, you don't have the right to tell me to withdraw my !vote. You went too far. I gave you plenty of warnings. But I'm not interested in helping you |
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defend a COI article that was ''obviously'' written by you and your various sock-/meat-puppets anymore. Sorry. [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 14:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:::You say you have 8 years of editing so you should know that even if you have something against an editor, that doesn't disqualify his articles. Now about the comments, you have deleted my comments or my relies to you, while moving the comments back to the main page. Your vote is not genuine. You are not expected to help me. This is not about helping anyone. --M. H. 14:40, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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== ANI notification == |
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I have merged the two into one discussion at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Michael Haephrati]]. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 15:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:Nope, two users have issued similar complaints about you - it should remain in one thread. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 15:15, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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[[Wikipedia:Tips/How_to_sign_comments]] Learn it, love it. USE IT. [[User:Gaijin42|Gaijin42]] ([[User talk:Gaijin42|talk]]) 15:48, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:There are 3 complains in fact. I of them I have filed.M. H. 15:50, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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::They relate to the same matter, they should not be separated. As an aside your signature violates [[WP:SIGLINK]], please rectify it at once. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 16:46, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:::Does it involve the same users / same articles? If so it should be part of the same ANI discussion. Oh, and your signature still violates SIGLINK, please change it before editing again. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 17:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Your signature STILL violates [[WP:SIGLINK]]. Your signature MUST INCLUDE links to your user and talk page. [[User:Gaijin42|Gaijin42]] ([[User talk:Gaijin42|talk]]) 18:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]] This is your '''last warning'''. The next time you make [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|personal attacks]] on other people, as you did at [[:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rashumon]], you may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]] without further notice'''. Comment on content, not on fellow editors.<!-- Template:uw-npa4 --> [[User:Lukeno94|<font color="Navy">Luke</font><font color="FireBrick">no</font><font color="Green">94</font>]] [[User talk:Lukeno94#top|<i>(tell Luke off here)</i>]] 17:02, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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== Your signature == |
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For the third and final time - [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMichael.haephrati&diff=570419006&oldid=570416267 1 + 2 here] - your signature violates [[WP:SIGLINK]] as it does not include "at least one direct internal link to your user page, user talk page, or contributions page." If you do not change it ASAP then your account will be blocked until as such time as it ''does'' meet the required guidelines. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 17:43, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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== Refactoring other editors comments == |
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== sig == |
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[[Wikipedia:How_to_fix_your_signature]] Click on the Preferences link, and update your signature. Probably just uncheck the "treat as markup" will fix it, but maybe not. [[User:Gaijin42|Gaijin42]] ([[User talk:Gaijin42|talk]]) 18:06, 27 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Hello. I have removed the note you added to [[Wikipedia:Copyright problems]] for two reasons. First, listings are not added directly to that page. As the note on the top of the page when you edit it indicates, they are instead listed at subpages. But more crucially, I would imagine, for your purposes, image issues are not handled at that page. There are several other boards that do handle image issues. See [[Wikipedia:Copyright_problems#Instructions_for_handling_image_copyright_concerns]]. I realize that you do not currently need this information, as this file has been removed, but it may be useful to you in the future. Thanks. --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 00:11, 28 August 2013 (UTC) |
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== Admin noticeboard== |
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I undid your edit as it (inadvertently) removed newer sections. I am not sure what you intended with your edit, but I wanted to let you know I undid it and why. [[User:EvergreenFir|EvergreenFir]] ([[User talk:EvergreenFir|talk]]) 02:34, 28 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Hi
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I have been doing writing and editing of professional articles about various software development issues and have been awarded MVP for the year of 2013. Here is my profile page, and the list of articles.
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Hi there. I've noticed it's been a while since you've been active at DRN, and we could really use your help! DRN is going to undergo some changes soon, so it'd really be great if our backlog is cleared before the start of August and we have as many people on board to help with the changes (they include a move to subpages and the creation of a rotating "co-ordinator" role to help manage things day-to-day. Hope to see you soon! Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 11:35, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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Mmm, I think I found the problem and fixed it. Please let me know if thers is still a problem. --Michael.haephrati (talk) 14:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Michael.haephrati. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.
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I am not affiliated with any of them. There are historical products mentioned for the technology aspect they have provided in the past. Michael.haephrati (talk) 11:36, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. MrOllie (talk) 11:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC) My recent contributions were reverted with no actual reason. These are historical products and the mentions are technical and refer to technical articles. Michael.haephrati (talk) 12:00, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Personally I would prefer to point to you the advice at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest — which is not solely about financial aspects — which has good guidance and suggests that the article talk page be used in case of disputes, not continued edit reversions. We protect our encyclopaedia and it is better to hasten slowly. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:06, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. MrOllie (talk) 16:27, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hello. I have brought that matter to the Amiga community one time, and in a single user's page. Following your comment, I made sure my post indeed reflects a neutral point of view. Michael.haephrati (talk) 17:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- This statement is certainly not neutral, and 100% qualifies as off-wiki canvassing. http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=745685 Gaijin42 (talk) 15:03, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
- You are correct. Fixed thatMichael.haephrati (talk) 15:39, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Off-wiki canvassing for AfD
You have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for a period of 36 hours as a result of your disruptive edits. You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our policies concerning neutral point of view and biographies of living persons will not be tolerated. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:15, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I indeed canvased outside of Wikipedia not knowing that it is against the policies. I did not publish a similar request on the deletion page and the user who have done that, have done that on his own (probably copied from my forum message). I have nothing to do with him. In any case, I am sorry for that and apologies. Michael.haephrati (talk) 15:58, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
- I've increased the block time and removed email access due to the sending of emails to users after your block to get they to change their mind and try and keep the article. Canterbury Tail talk 13:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Upon consideration I over-reacted and I've set the block back to the original 36 hour block. It is once again due to expire 03:04 on Saturday. Canterbury Tail talk 17:55, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing so. However, I am still appealing against your decision in the first place (even though you have reverted it) and against the block from sending emails, as none of my very few emails can be considered 'canvasing' or are in anyway against any policy.M. H. 18:22, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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Request reason:
This account was blocked for 36 hours due to a forum message I have posted outside Wikipedia asking fellow Amiga users to vote for keeping an article about Rashumon word processor. That was wrong and I apologized and edited this message to avoid canvasing. Following this post, my account was blocked for editing but not for sending emails. This appeal is against the 2nd and 3rd blocks / changes: I argue that I didn't spam or canvased anyone, but approached to few editors to discuss some matters that I think are important and/or were misunderstood. These editors / users have indicated in their account's settings that they agree to receive emails from other users. Canterbury Tail received from me a very polite message using this feature of Wikiedia, asking him to have a friendly discussion. He responded to this email sent to him and blocked me from sending emails to others, prevent me from expressing my opinion on this debate and on other matters. Today Canterbury Tail extend this block despite the fact that I have not been conducting any activity with my Wikipedia account since the last change. As I am told friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view which is exactly the case of the emails and messages in question. Update: following my appeal, Canterbury Tail has reverted his most recent decision so the block is now set to the original date, but left the block from sending emails during this time-frame. Nevertheless, I kindly ask my appeal to be reviewed due to the wrong decision (in my opinion, and apparently) to extend the block, even though it is now reverted and because of the block from sending emails which I believe was made following a personal and a very friendly email sent to Canterbury Tail. When I sent this message to him, I expected (and I guess, like me, any editor using this nice feature of Wikipedia would expect) just a polite reply from him as opposed to being blocked (twice)... I don't think any editor should ever have the slightest fear or hesitation to send an email to an Administrator about anything! M. H. 08:38, 24 August 2013 (UTC)M. H. 18:22, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Decline reason:
This block has expired. Kuru (talk) 12:53, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
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- Your block extension has been rescinded. Your original block will be expiring tomorrow, but you're worried about not being able to send emails via Wikipedia between now and then? How is that a not waste of block reviewers time? OhNoitsJamie Talk 01:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- Dear Ohnoitsjamie, the purpose of my appeal (or any appeal, for that matter) is to have someone else review 2 decisions, which in my opinion are a result of a very bad judgement. I hope anyone will do the same if he or she encounters a wrong decision taken by an Administrator, here and anywhere. So to answer your question: No. I am not worried about not being able to send emails via Wikipedia between yesterday and this morning... My appeal is about the 2 wrong decisions, and especially because I don't think any editor should ever have the slightest fear or hesitation to send an email to an Administrator about anything! Have a nice day! M. H. 08:38, 24 August 2013 (UTC)