Wikipedia talk:GLAM/Your paintings

Public Catalogue Foundation collaboration?

Is this project a collaboration with the Public Catalogue Foundation? --Another Believer _(Talk) 03:30, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Alas, no. The Public Catalogue Foundation has spoken with a few Wikimedians about a possible collaboration, but they are very scared that they will *not* be granted permission to work with Wikimedia from their partner organisations, so they want to ask them all individually and informally first. They have decided to postpone any firm partnership with us for about 10 months. They have about 800 partner institutions, so this will take a long time. I had hoped to receive all of their meta data which is online anyway, but even this was a problem. I also wanted to present some numbers about this dataset at the London GLAMcamp and set up a writing contest onwiki and invite their "taggers", but the PCF was worried that their taggers would become Wikipedians and stop tagging. Magnus Manske was so kind as to gather the full set of 37,000 artist names, but I also want the full set of painting names (250,000). We could still do a writing contest anyway. I have been checking the names and was up to 3,200 PCF-Wikimedia matches when we spoke in March. I now have over 7,000 PCF-Wikimedia matches and am still continuing my matches, which has been very entertaining as well as enlightening. Jane (talk) 05:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

DNB list related to YP

At Wikipedia:WikiProject Dictionary of National Biography/Artists. Almost exactly 50% of the missing DNB artists there are also missing YP artists. "Synergy" is an over-used term, but the fact is that DNB text plus YP images (with caveats all round) can make for rapid development of content. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:03, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for posting, I totally agree. I have seen your edits to the YP lists on my watchlist - keep up the good work! It's hard to get information on the lesser-known artists as many of them are only known in the areas where they lived and worked. Though a number like 37,000 sounds like a lot of artists, I have noticed that the YP has lots of doubles and triples, and half of them are without birth-death dates, so really you only have about 15,000 names you can match with any certainty. In my database of 2,000 UK & Irish artists with some sort of Wiki(p/m)edia presence somewhere, about 1400 of these are in the YP database. My personal interest is Dutch art however, and of 2,000 Dutch artists with some sort of Wiki(p/m)edia presence somewhere, I have found 700 of these in the YP database. One tip I can give you is to look at the sources of the DNB for the various regions of the UK, because then you can see if you can get the source lists of names which may be spelled differently, enhancing your chances of spelling matches. Jane (talk) 09:09, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouragement. What seems to work for me, in most areas, is to add the information from the DNB that is easy to get first. This is all for artists who died by 1912: I suppose there are many 20th century artists in the overall list. Charles Matthews (talk) 18:13, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the 20th century artists are clearly the most popular; 30% of all the artists on the YP website were born after 1900. Another 40% of them are listed without birthdates or any indication of the century they lived in. That leaves about a third of the dataset for artists born before 1900. Happy editing! Jane (talk) 13:10, 13 September 2013 (UTC)