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<p>Can we get something with a citation? Anything? The drivel spewed into this article makes no sense:</p> |
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"It is of Sanskrit origin, stemming from the words deva and devi meaning: "a god" originally "a shining one" or "to shine..." |
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<p>That's an interesting guess... 'deva' -- or 'devi' in feminine form does mean 'god' in Sanskrit. But it's wrong:</p> |
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"...thus cognate with Greek dios 'divine.'" |
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<p>Nope. Way off. |
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1) Sanskrit would have had no influence on Greek language... they may share a common ancestry, as Filippo Sassetti theorized when he noticed a few similarities, but if so they were definitely diverging. |
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2)'Dios' is Latin. Greek would be 'Theos.'</p> |
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"The name has also been said to mean "poet" and found in French and Gaelic cultures." |
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<p>Half-correct. Gaelic and Celtic, yes... French, no. In french, it's an honorific that means 'divine', and it's related to terms for 'diviner' or 'soothsayer' but it wasn't used as a name in French. It has been used since time immemorial as a name in both Gaelic and Celtic, meaning 'bard' or 'poet'.</p> |
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"The feminine spelling is usually Devon." |
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<p>God, no. In English (not Irish), Devon was historically a surname, then a male given name, and recently gender-neutral. It is not related to the Irish 'Devin', and baby name origin pages consistently get that wrong. 'Devon' as a name meant 'dudes from Devon' (tons of last names in Europe worked that way -- e.g. 'daVinci' = 'of Venice'). Devon the place got its name from a pre-celtic root 'dubno-' which meant 'deep' and 'world', developing through Gaelic and Celtic into Cornish ('Dewnens'), Welsh ('Dynaint'), and Breton ('Devnent'), which all mean 'deep valleys'.</p> |
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<p>'Devin', on the other hand, is Gaelic/Irish. Spelling variants include Devyn, Devinne, and Devynne, and certainly others, but never Devon, as that word developed from another root entirely.</p> |
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"The name may also be spelt Devan, Deven, and rarely Devyn. The name Davinia may also be a female variant of Devin, though generally considered a variant of David." |
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<p>Sure. Whatever. A citation in place of random regurgitation based on opinion (read: 'original research') would be nice.</p> |
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== The name "Devina" == |
== The name "Devina" == |
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Wouldn't that be considered a female variant of "Devin" as well? |
Wouldn't that be considered a female variant of "Devin" as well? |
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Can we get something with a citation? Anything? The drivel spewed into this article makes no sense:
"It is of Sanskrit origin, stemming from the words deva and devi meaning: "a god" originally "a shining one" or "to shine..."
That's an interesting guess... 'deva' -- or 'devi' in feminine form does mean 'god' in Sanskrit. But it's wrong:
"...thus cognate with Greek dios 'divine.'"
Nope. Way off. 1) Sanskrit would have had no influence on Greek language... they may share a common ancestry, as Filippo Sassetti theorized when he noticed a few similarities, but if so they were definitely diverging. 2)'Dios' is Latin. Greek would be 'Theos.'
"The name has also been said to mean "poet" and found in French and Gaelic cultures."
Half-correct. Gaelic and Celtic, yes... French, no. In french, it's an honorific that means 'divine', and it's related to terms for 'diviner' or 'soothsayer' but it wasn't used as a name in French. It has been used since time immemorial as a name in both Gaelic and Celtic, meaning 'bard' or 'poet'.
"The feminine spelling is usually Devon."
God, no. In English (not Irish), Devon was historically a surname, then a male given name, and recently gender-neutral. It is not related to the Irish 'Devin', and baby name origin pages consistently get that wrong. 'Devon' as a name meant 'dudes from Devon' (tons of last names in Europe worked that way -- e.g. 'daVinci' = 'of Venice'). Devon the place got its name from a pre-celtic root 'dubno-' which meant 'deep' and 'world', developing through Gaelic and Celtic into Cornish ('Dewnens'), Welsh ('Dynaint'), and Breton ('Devnent'), which all mean 'deep valleys'.
'Devin', on the other hand, is Gaelic/Irish. Spelling variants include Devyn, Devinne, and Devynne, and certainly others, but never Devon, as that word developed from another root entirely.
"The name may also be spelt Devan, Deven, and rarely Devyn. The name Davinia may also be a female variant of Devin, though generally considered a variant of David."
Sure. Whatever. A citation in place of random regurgitation based on opinion (read: 'original research') would be nice.
The name "Devina"
Wouldn't that be considered a female variant of "Devin" as well? BOB WAS NOT HERE! (Devrit) 22:08, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Notability of the names
Most the "Devins" under notable Devin's don't have Wikipedia pages, therefore they don't have notability. I think its appropriate to remove them, if you think they're notable then make a page for them. TheJoak (talk) 04:14, 21 February 2009 (UTC)