Talk:Doctor Who fandom

Harlan Ellison is definately a fan...

Here I quote him, the highly critical science-fictioneer:

Whilst on the lecture platform of the World Science Fiction Convention in 1979...

"Star Wars is adolescent nonsense; Close Encounters is obscurantist drivel; Star Trek can turn your brains to puree of bat guano; and the greatest science fiction series of all time is Doctor Who! And I'll take you all on, one-by-one or all in a bunch to back it up!" DrWho42 10:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, Ellison also wrote the introduction to Pinnacle's US imprints of the Target novelisations, so he should definitely join the list. Martpol 09:34, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Indeed.. That's whereto I got my quote. (= Anyways, he admits to hating television and alot of its "science-fiction" save for this fine exception in the space-time wash.DrWho42 13:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Hasn't be subsequently claimed not to have actually written that introduction? Angmering 17:56, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Rather than...

Rather than the Save Doctor Who campaign sticker, shouldn't it be more akin to something like a Whovian dressed in fan-attire or an image of a Doctor Who convention? DrWho42 07:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

As "fan attire", IMHO, is jeans and t-shirt, I would prefer the latter ;-) A queue of fans waiting to get an autograph would be suitable if anyone has such a photo. —Whouk (talk) 08:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, although I'm image-inept, I've got some pictures from the last Gallifrey convention. I'll see if there's anything suitable and try to upload it. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Was there anything suitable? DrWho42 23:31, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I went away on wikibreak and forgot about this. I've just had a look through my iPhoto collection, and although most of my photos aren't very good there are a few that might suit. I've got one of a fan in a rather good Tom Baker costume, one of Noel Clarke, Nick Briggs, Rob Shearman, Mark Gatiss and Steve Moffat at an autograph table, and one of all the Gallifrey 2006 attendees on the stage with the TARDIS and a rather tatty-looking Dalek. None are really great, but I'll upload these three and see if anyone thinks one of them is suitable. (I also have a decent-ish picture of me with the TARDIS, but that would be extremely self-indulgent.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:06, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

OK: the photos are up at Image:4thDoccostume.jpg, Image:GallifreyAutographs.jpg and Image:Gallifrey2006.jpg. If any of them look good to anyone, feel free to put them on the page. If not, I won't be hurt. (The Fourth Doctor costume one could probably be cropped a bit, as well; I left it as-is because of the convention schedule on the wall, but we probably don't need the guy in the background.) Anyway, there they are. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I prefer the autograph session because it shows off fans as opposed to just one fan or just the guests. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 07:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I guess I'll put that one on the page then — it can at least serve as a placeholder until we get something better. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:07, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Steve Martin

[1] Hopefully, now that the relevant guideline has been pointed out, this silliness will stop.--Sean Black ^(talk) 11:03, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

As anyone can submit an item to be included in IMDb's Trivia sections, I don't think it could be listed as a reliable source. Jude (talk,contribs,email) 11:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Since I couldn't find anything in relation betwixt either Steve Martin and Doctor Who I highly doubt the validity thereof.. There should be sources cited as they do with the List of notable Star Trek fans. DrWho42 14:29, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Steve Martin is so a fan of Doctor Who. He has confessed it and it's on his website. He very rarely posts messages on his websites but he does whenever he's filming a movie to let his fans know how he's doing, but he quickly takes them down after a couple of months. Anyway when the new series was about to debut Steve Martin stated that when it comes to the debut "he was the most excited man in Hollywood". He's also posted a message that he only did Cheaper By The Dozen because as he plays Tom Baker he's so close to fulfilling the goal of so many Whovians, to play The Doctor. He also posted a message, when he was doing "Looney Tunes: Back In Action" that he insisted in having Daleks in the scene with all those aliens attacking Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny.

It's not enough that you saw it. Other people must be able to verify it as well. Without a source other people can check it still fails Wikipedia:Verifiability. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 02:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Mmm, well, there's always Archive.org if the website Steve Martin.com no longer has the information thereon. Simply type in the site on Archive.org, and that certainly should send you places.DrWho42 02:49, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Onus of providing the cite is on him, though. Let him find it. --khaosworks (talk •

contribs) 03:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

"Oh no, you're the one that has a problem with imdb.com, you find it"

That's not how it works in the real world. If you add it, you provide the cite. If you can't, it goes out. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 04:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

"And I have, imdb.com, and you seem to have a problem with it"

Which I've already explained the problem - it's not reliable. And not just me; other people seem to agree it's not reliable. So it's on you to find something else. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 05:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Well anyone can put a bit of trivia up on imdb.com but they have it get it approved by the webmasters or mistresses first. And it takes a maximum of 28 days, and anytime someone submits something for imdb.com it states if it's not up by 28 days it means it's unnotable or THEY DIDN'T FIND PROOF that the statement is true. They RESEARCH --DaffyDuck619 (contribs)

That didn't stop them from being scammed into thinking Davros was going to show up in The Parting of the Ways, so I don't think much of their fact-checking skills when it comes to Doctor Who. If Steve Martin is such a huge Doctor Who fan, surely it must have been mentioned elsewhere? Even reporters are supposed to look for two sources before printing a fact. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 08:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I submitted a comment/query to the IMDb.--Sean Black ^(talk) 22:23, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Male/female ratio

From the episode Rose...

# Clive's wife Caroline (who is not mentioned by name on screen) shows surprise that a "she" would read a website about the Doctor. This is a sly aside, noting the widely-held misconception that there are extremely few female Doctor Who fans. (However, statistics soon revealed that the male/female ratio for Doctor Who's viewing audience is roughly 1:1.)

Could anyone verify that supposed "fact"? DrWho42 17:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Whobies

Whobies is a term I came up with to describe new fans of the show. Is that worthy of mention in the article? - John R. Sellers 00:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC)