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– Consistency with UT Martin Skyhawks, the way the University of Tennessee at Martin self-identifies for athletics. Arbor to SJ (talk) 16:49, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support Per common usage. As far as I can see, no real reason not to. 2010 Tennessee–Martin Skyhawks football team, 2011 Tennessee–Martin Skyhawks football team, 2012–13 Tennessee–Martin Skyhawks men's basketball team, and the family of Category:Tennessee–Martin Skyhawks should all be moved as well. Ejgreen77 (talk) 18:30, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per common usage. ESPN the worldwide leader, USA Today, and Sporting News all use Tennessee–Martin. Also, UT can be confused with the University of Texas similar to UT Arlington. I think the entire family should use Tennessee–Martin. -AllisonFoley (talk) 18:52, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- ESPN also uses "UT Martin" [1] Arbor to SJ (talk) 19:35, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose - The direction at WP:CBBALL has been to use the self-identifying names where they are clear (e.g. USC, LSU, BYU, etc.) but this case has conflicting usage as pointed out by User:AllisonFoley. I think we should wait until the abbreviated name is fully in the public eye (in other words, adopted by most reputable news services as acceptable usage). To me there is a big drop in brand awareness from "USC" to "UT Martin." Part of the point is clarity, and I'm not sure that would be achieved by this move. I am not hard over on this opinion, though. Rikster2 (talk) 20:04, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the term "UT" is too generic and unclear. Is there a University of Texas-Martin? Or University of Tallahassee-Martin? Or Tahiti? Or could it be confused with Utah... or could there be any of these in the future, or in the past? Or a professional or other amateur team that could fit the "UT-Martin" style? "Tennessee-Martin" fits our standard naming convention because it really helps when looking up the subject. It's clear, it's obvious.--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:00, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 **ESPN also uses "UT Martin" [http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/2634/tennessee-state-tigers] [[User:Arbor to SJ|Arbor to SJ]] ([[User talk:Arbor to SJ|talk]]) 19:35, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 *'''Weak Oppose''' - The direction at [[WP:CBBALL]] has been to use the self-identifying names where they are clear (e.g. USC, LSU, BYU, etc.) but this case has conflicting usage as pointed out by [[User:AllisonFoley]].  I think we should wait until the abbreviated name is fully in the public eye (in other words, adopted by most reputable news services as acceptable usage).  To me there is a big drop in brand awareness from "USC" to "UT Martin."  Part of the point is clarity, and I'm not sure that would be achieved by this move.  I am not hard over on this opinion, though. [[User:Rikster2|Rikster2]] ([[User talk:Rikster2|talk]]) 20:04, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose''' the term "UT" is too generic and unclear.  Is there a University of Texas-Martin?  Or University of Tallahassee-Martin?  Or Tahiti?  Or could it be confused with Utah... or could there be any of these in the future, or in the past?  Or a professional or other amateur team that could fit the "UT-Martin" style?  "Tennessee-Martin" fits our standard naming convention because it really helps when looking up the subject. It's clear, it's obvious.--[[User:Paulmcdonald|Paul McDonald]] ([[User talk:Paulmcdonald|talk]]) 15:00, 4 November 2013 (UTC)