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::::Just noticed that [https://www.facebook.com/KPP.FC her Facebook Page] refers to her as "KPP." [[User:Raquel Baranow|Raquel Baranow]] ([[User talk:Raquel Baranow|talk]]) 15:55, 5 November 2013 (UTC) |
::::Just noticed that [https://www.facebook.com/KPP.FC her Facebook Page] refers to her as "KPP." [[User:Raquel Baranow|Raquel Baranow]] ([[User talk:Raquel Baranow|talk]]) 15:55, 5 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:Following here from the Teahouse, check out [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies#Subsequent use]] (<small>also know by the shortcuts [[WP:SURNAME]] and [[WP:LASTNAME]]</small>). I don't know that it decides the issue one way or the other, but it lends support for using a first name where a last name isn't know or doesn't work well given the context. Best regards--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 23:06, 5 November 2013 (UTC) |
:Following here from the Teahouse, check out [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies#Subsequent use]] (<small>also know by the shortcuts [[WP:SURNAME]] and [[WP:LASTNAME]]</small>). I don't know that it decides the issue one way or the other, but it lends support for using a first name where a last name isn't know or doesn't work well given the context. Best regards--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 23:06, 5 November 2013 (UTC) |
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*no need to change the title of the ''article'': "Kyari Pamyu Pamyu" is her full stage name... now, seeing as the press switch to simply "Kyari" casually within articles, it seems thats how it ought to be handled here; i haven't found any instances of her being referred to as "Pamyu" OR "Pamyu Pamyu"... the "Snoop Dogg" article goes to "Snoop" within the article, not "Dogg"... i doubt she'd be switching to Kyari-only at any point; the cuteness of "Pamyu Pamyu" seems to be a part of her charm (gimmick?), and: the article can be changed if-&-when she did officially shorten it... so: i'll get to changing all "Pamyu"s to "Kyari"s in a future edit unless someone else would like to go ahead and tend to it; gotta run at the moment~ [[User:Japanglish|Japanglish]] ([[User talk:Japanglish|talk]]) 14:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC) |
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Most links I have looked at, identify Harajuku as a fashion style in her context, rather than a district of Japan. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 02:15, 31 July 2011 (UTC) -- It appears that was completely incorrect. She is from Harujuku district. It is just that she exemplifies the cultural flavor of that area and its unique sense of style. So half of both. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 03:27, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
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Gwen Stefani
She says in this interview that Gwen Stefani is her favorite artist and her biggest inspiration. It says her favorite song of hers is "Harajuku Girls". Not sure if this should be included in the article. -ErickAutumn (talk) 06:14, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
All-things-Kyari
this article reads like a News Release... in lieu of tagging it as such, i'll be taking it on myself in a series of edits over the next few days... i'm noticing right off the bat that some existing text out-does their source material; among other things such as plenty of decidedly unencyclopedic information... don't get me wrong & don't worry, i'll be fair, because i think she's as adorable as anyone else may think, but this is neither her blog nor fan club = toning it down a notch folks... "eyemazing": the source doesn't say anything about her "establishing herself as a business woman"… also, it cites the product as "Harajuku Doll", NOT "Eyemazing x Kyari etc"; that's just the typical catchcopy in Japan for promoting collaborations. next/high on my list: intro; too much information, some full articles aren7t that long. more to do... we'll meet again. Japanglish (talk) 12:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- case-in-point: just revised one particularly glaring example of overkill: admission prices for a so-called "museum exhibition"... really? anyway, i trimmed the fat there in March/April 2013 and in the process referenced the provided sources, BUT: those sources are either dead ends leading nowhere OR they're to Kyari sites which are not only considered unreliable as source material but don't even provide much in the way of information OR proof... at the very least, it doesn't even say anything about being in a "museum" except that it's part of the exhibition TITLE; Roppongi HIlls has a museum, but that's the MORI museum, and that name doesn't appear in the one accessible source provided... all of this makes me question other source material which i have yet to explore... i'll be back. Japanglish (talk) 13:12, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- Please do verify, hack and slash! Thank you :-) - David Gerard (talk) 15:14, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- down-sized the intro keeping only the necessities of an intro; let interested readers read-on for more! hey, i know Kyari is all that BUT: somebody needs to pay some attention to sourcing the specifics of claims made here (and sourcing in-general)! "signature song"? nothing… Elle magazine? i did a quick search at Elle's website myself: nothing… i didn't wanna delete, so i just tagged them for "citations"… somebody else: dozo yoroshiku~ also: order of "model, blogger and recording artist"; left as-is but shouldn't recording artist be first? meanwhile i'll continue trimming the fat a little at a time~ Japanglish (talk) 12:56, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
consensus for NAME within article
i've been keeping with the pre-existing "Pamyu" in my edits, BUT... should it (or not) be "Pamyu Pamyu" as a "last name" if you wanna consider it as such, OR, should it instead be simply "Kyari"? most media blurbs about her seem to be one-paragraph verifications of her existence which merely mention her name once in its entirety because thats all thats required. japanese sources seem to lean toward simply "Kyari"... let's reach consensus on that and edit accordingly! continuing wikification a bit at a time. Japanglish (talk) 16:11, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
- i like using just her first name like this mainstream article does. Article also says Kyary is closest to "Carrie" an American name which her classmates called her and, she added the “Pamyu Pamyu” part just because she thought it sounded good.Raquel Baranow (talk) 18:05, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
- all the explanations about the origin of her name are understood and already in the article... my question is about how she should be referred to within the article itself... example 1(current): "Pamyu is the bees knees." example 2: "Pamyu Pamyu is the bees knees." example 3: "Kyari is the bees knees." it's my understanding that wikipedia refers to subjects by their last name, but in this case would that be ONE "Pamyu" or both "Pamyu Pamyu"? OR, seeing as none of the above are her actual names anyway, and giving some consideration to SOUND, should we just go with "Kyari"? it just SOUNDs pretty silly to me, to say "Pamyu Pamyu did this and that and the other thing" and refer to her in that way so many times within the article... "Kyari" seems to me to READ better, but i wouldn't make a change like that on my own without hearing other opinions first =anybody else care to weigh in? Japanglish (talk) 13:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- I asked over at The Teahouse what we should do and Anne said to comply with what mainstream media does with her name. She suggested renaming the article and redirecting but I'm thinking keeping the title the same and mentioning in the first paragraph that most? mainstream articles refer to her as "Kyary" and then provide a few citations. Raquel Baranow (talk) 15:39, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- Just noticed that her Facebook Page refers to her as "KPP." Raquel Baranow (talk) 15:55, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- I asked over at The Teahouse what we should do and Anne said to comply with what mainstream media does with her name. She suggested renaming the article and redirecting but I'm thinking keeping the title the same and mentioning in the first paragraph that most? mainstream articles refer to her as "Kyary" and then provide a few citations. Raquel Baranow (talk) 15:39, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- all the explanations about the origin of her name are understood and already in the article... my question is about how she should be referred to within the article itself... example 1(current): "Pamyu is the bees knees." example 2: "Pamyu Pamyu is the bees knees." example 3: "Kyari is the bees knees." it's my understanding that wikipedia refers to subjects by their last name, but in this case would that be ONE "Pamyu" or both "Pamyu Pamyu"? OR, seeing as none of the above are her actual names anyway, and giving some consideration to SOUND, should we just go with "Kyari"? it just SOUNDs pretty silly to me, to say "Pamyu Pamyu did this and that and the other thing" and refer to her in that way so many times within the article... "Kyari" seems to me to READ better, but i wouldn't make a change like that on my own without hearing other opinions first =anybody else care to weigh in? Japanglish (talk) 13:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- Following here from the Teahouse, check out Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies#Subsequent use (also know by the shortcuts WP:SURNAME and WP:LASTNAME). I don't know that it decides the issue one way or the other, but it lends support for using a first name where a last name isn't know or doesn't work well given the context. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:06, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- no need to change the title of the article: "Kyari Pamyu Pamyu" is her full stage name... now, seeing as the press switch to simply "Kyari" casually within articles, it seems thats how it ought to be handled here; i haven't found any instances of her being referred to as "Pamyu" OR "Pamyu Pamyu"... the "Snoop Dogg" article goes to "Snoop" within the article, not "Dogg"... i doubt she'd be switching to Kyari-only at any point; the cuteness of "Pamyu Pamyu" seems to be a part of her charm (gimmick?), and: the article can be changed if-&-when she did officially shorten it... so: i'll get to changing all "Pamyu"s to "Kyari"s in a future edit unless someone else would like to go ahead and tend to it; gotta run at the moment~ Japanglish (talk) 14:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
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