Talk:Constantin Brâncuși

Untitled

Sources mention that he was born in Hobitza. See:

• http://www.gencnet.tk/constantin-brancusi.html

olivier 17:27 Jan 20, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, it seems he was born there. Here's a link to his memorial home

• http://www.gencnet.tk/constantin-brancusi.html

But the right spelling is Hobița. Also his name is Brâncuși and not Brâncuşi. Anyone knows how to modify the title?

Brancusi Virtual Encyclopedia

The following was removed as a "vanity link": *"Constantin Brancusi Virtual Encyclopedia - 2 multimedia CDs from the Noesis Cultural Society

I agree that the particular link looks like a vanity link but I know Noesis Cultural Society, their work is generally excellent (certainly the best cultural multimedia work in Romania, and among the best in the world). I'm not defending the particular link, but we should still probably make some mention of that work.

As all too often happens with things Romanian, I can't find any other relevant link besides the one from the people who built it. -- Jmabel | Talk July 7, 2005 06:00 (UTC)

It was probably me who removed it - I tend to be sensitive about people inserting external links to commercial sites without explanation. However, I'm easily persuaded to reinsert, if several unrelated editors think that a link has value irrespective of its promotional element.

However, in this case, the link doesn't seem to tell us anything much about Brancusi and Wikipedia probably shouldn't just be advertising the CDs any more than we should link to a book on Brancusi unless it was used as a reference. -- Solipsist 7 July 2005 08:22 (UTC)

I removed it. I get only a blank page when I load the URL, using two different browsers. In any case, if we rewrote the listing to read "Constantin Brancusi Virtual Encyclopedia, by the Noesis Cultural Society" it wouldn't seem so much like promotion. --sparkit (talk) July 7, 2005 13:51 (UTC)

The link works fine for me; I think it's Macromedia Flash (which won't show up if you lack the plug-in), even though it's low-key (damn multi-media folks, there's nothing on the page they couldn't have done perfectly well in HTML). I guess it's not that big a deal, if the link seems useless to several people. -- Jmabel | Talk July 8, 2005 06:04 (UTC)

Are the CDs a useful resource for someone who wants to further study Brancusi? Would we question the link's inclusion if it were to a book? If they are a useful resource, I say restore the link. (I have Flash. Maybe it's a browser detection thing and it doesn't recognize any Mac browsers as legitmate.) --sparkit (talk) July 8, 2005 13:54 (UTC)

I would imagine they are, but I haven't seen them. Again, I'm just going on the publisher's reputation. I have some of Noesis' multimedia CDs, they are among the best things of the sort I've ever seen, but I don't know this particular one. -- Jmabel | Talk July 8, 2005 22:16 (UTC)

Well in general, no, we don't include external links to sites selling a book on a subject, no matter how good the book is. However, we do routinely include Bibliography or Further Reading sections where such books would be listed using the wiki-magic ISBN link (which avoid favouring any particular bookseller). Since this is a CD-ROM, I guess the ISBN trick won't work, so an ext-link is probably appropriate in this case, but we could still move it to a Further Reading section. -- Solipsist 9 July 2005 08:42 (UTC)

Great idea! --sparkit (talk) July 9, 2005 19:00 (UTC)

A link

I notice that this link:

• www.ModernFurnitureClassics.com Transcript of an interview with Isamu Noguchi regarding his time working in the Brancusi Studio.

... was recently removed without comment from the article. I don't have a strong feeling about it either way (it's moderately interesting, might be a useful citation to link Brancusi and Isamu Noguchi someplace, but doesn't necessarily rise to the level of a reason to link if its not cited) but, generally, when removing something like this there should be an edit summary. - Jmabel | Talk 06:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Name

Why is the article named Constantin Brâncuşi, whereas he is referred throughout the article as Constantin Brancusi? I think one should make a choice, and stick to it. The same thing happens in dozens of pages that refer to Brâncuşi -- about half use one spelling, and another half the other. Can this be resolved, one way or the other, for consistency? Turgidson 20:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I moved the article back to "Constantin Brancusi" per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(standard_letters_with_diacritics)#Guideline_in_a_nutshell.

Reference: Getty Union List of Artist Names. --sparkit^TALK 17:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

This moving back and forth between Brâncuşi and Brancusi is getting a bit disorienting. Have we reached a stable state, at last? I've been trying to update the links to Brâncuşi/Brancusi in several other articles to keep up with the changing title for this one, but I'm no longer sure that's the right thing to do... Turgidson 21:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I moved it to "Brancusi" (since moved back to "Brâncuşi") based on the informal agreement of those on the Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Visual_arts#Artist_naming_conventions Visual Arts Project, which is to use the Getty Union List of Artist Names preferred name. Plus what I read at the diacritics page linked above that at the time I read it looked like policy, but now has a "failed policy" notice on it. From what I can tell there's no wikipedia consensus on which way to go. --sparkit^TALK 22:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Both are wrong. The right spelling is Brâncuși! The before last letter is an s with comma below. It is not an s and defenetely not an s with cedille.

Nevertheless, your (user:Tgakic's) blanket changes of spelling has resulted in red links and non-existant image files, etc. I haven't checked the interwikilinks yet. Please, could you check your edits and fix this. ---Sluzzelin talk 00:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Date of birth

Various sources say he was born 21 February 1876, not 19 February. Is there any documentation about his true DOB? And was that the Julian or Gregorian date (Romania used the Julian calendar until the early 20th century)? -- JackofOz (talk) 08:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Sandburg's Brancusi poem

The famous American poet Carl Sandburg wrote a poem about Brancusi [1], from the collection Slabs of the Sunburnt West (1922). A from L.A. (talk) 13:30, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

If I find more poems written about him or dedicated to him by various poets I will list them in the article. A from L.A. (talk) 13:31, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

The Kiss

Brancusi was well known for his "Le Baiser", the Kiss. Something he was said to have had in common with Auguste Rodin. Strangely enough there is no picture. So I have included one.

File:LeBaiser.jpg

Brancusi - The Kiss

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.160.198.125 (talk) 08:45, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Pictures of The Kiss are usually removed when these pictures are taken in France because it is deemed to violate the "Freedom of Panorama" laws. The Kiss can also be found in many places outside of France, so I wonder if this law really applies. Brancusi is one of the most important sculptors of the twentieth century, a picture of The Kiss should be included. It adorns one of the graves in Montparnasse Cemetery (division 22, on the grave of Tatiana Racheveskaïa). Brancusi himself is buried in this cemetery in division 18. 83.160.198.125 (talk) 22:08, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Romanian Cyrillic

There is no such thing like Romanian Cyrillic. Romanian is a language written in latin letters.

The "Phallic Controversy"

OK, so I'll open this can o'worms. The linked article, a source from a prestigious museum, states that Brâncuşi never intended for the work to be perceived as phallic. And here we have someone (who I've not *yet* bothered to look up) boldly perpetrating this theory. And what does Freud have to do with it? This is art, not psychiatry, for goodness' sake.... Renaissongsman (talk) 05:21, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Evoda, 19 February 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} "Romanian-born" changed to "Romanian" Evoda (talk) 17:57, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

 Not done. He has dual nationality (Romanian and French). He was born as Romanian, so he should be said to be romanian-born. Otherwise it should be stated that he had romanian AND french nationalities? Ilyushka ☃^Talk!_Contribs 21:39, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Who were Brâncuşi’s parents ?

There seems to be a conspicuous discrepancy between the English and the German Wikipedia concerning Brâncuşi’s parents.

English WP : His parents Nicolae and Maria Brâncuşi were poor peasants who earned a meager living through back-breaking labor.

German WP : Der Vater war ein wohlhabender Mann, der die Ländereien um das Kloster Tismana verwaltete.

The Rumanian Wikipedia doesn’t really clear up whether his father was a well-off man or a destitute pauper. The question has already received attention above (under Untitled). Could somebody look into this ? Hirpex (talk) 19:05, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

It is difficult to find anything that can be sourced and many sources quote each other, making a decent search practically impossible. However the Encyclopedia Britannica states that his parents were poor peasants. As the EB is usually well informed, I trust this answers your question. 83.160.198.125 (talk) 22:37, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Brancusi

The guy is called Brancusi in English -- not Brâncuşi -- so why is this page pretending otherwise?
His name in English is pronounced as though it were Italian: Brankoozy. Varlaam (talk) 04:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

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Brancusi - work like a slave

Moved from User talk:Coldcreation

Coldcreation - I'd rather see the quote showcased within the article. It is a striking quote, and was selected by art critic John Berger for special mention. It does more good than harm where it is. Perhaps the quote in the lower section can be removed, it you prefer. What do you think?36hourblock (talk) 19:22, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I would rather see the quote in the section where it was originally placed; Brâncuși on his own work. As it stands now that quote seems contextually out of place in the article. I'm moving this conversation to the Brâncuși Talk page for any further discussion. Coldcreation (talk) 22:32, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I notice that Berger, in The Success and Failure of Picasso, does not highlight the quote, nor is the quote mentioned in any 'special' way. In fact he writes directly following the quote: "Brancusi, however, lived in the same way as he worked; simply, austerely, and - in terms of the demands of modern Paris or New York"... Coldcreation (talk) 22:47, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to proceed to revert your edits back to the way the article was prior to your intervention. There is no need to have that quote in a section where it is out of place, and there is no need to have the same quote three times in the same article: once in Romanian and twice in English. Please do not change the article again without soliciting some form of general consensus. Thanks for your comprehension. Coldcreation (talk) 18:37, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Je comprends. 36hourblock (talk) 22:12, 14 November 2013 (UTC)