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image is of a bateau?

From TFA: "It was traditionally pointed at both ends but came in a wide variety of sizes." Image in article is of a boat with a pointed bow and flat stern. Is the image "non-traditional" or just a "variety size". 68.50.103.5 (talk) 17:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What is the quote saying?

I don't fully understand the quote in the lead...

"We use the spelling "batteau" because we consider that to be the correct spelling for our kind of boat - the James River Batteau, invented by the Rucker brothers in 1771"

Does that mean there is some other "kind of boat" that was not built by the Rucker brothers that is similarly named? And what is the incorrect spelling in this case? A single t? It's really not clear at all what this quote is saying.

I ask, because I've seen Wolfe's letters talking about "batteaux" during the siege of Quebec in 1759, so anything about the Rucker brothers in 1771 is either referring to a very specific version of the craft, or is just wrong.

Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:38, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Other spellings

The letters of Jeffery Amherst during his period as Commander in Chief of the British army in America from 1759 to 1763 make many references to batteaux, with correspondents often spelling it "battoes" or "batoes." Hattrick (talk) 21:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

Proper spelling among researchers is certainly not a problem. During most of the period when bateaux were in use, standardized spellings of names as we know them today did not exist. Phonetic spellings were used, not surprisingly for a foreign-to-English sounding word such as bateau. The section of this article regarding spelling should be removed.

Also, the image is not a bateau and at least one or maybe more of the quotes in the article do not appear to be using the term bateau in reference to the specific boat type but rather are using the French word in a poetic manner in reference to all boats. GullyWalker (talk) 12:58, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re-write needed

The new lead image is of a James River Bateau which is a particular type of bateau and not representative of the bateaux which were in use elsewhere throughout North America during the 17th and 18th centuries - this is not the bateau that was in use on the St. Lawrence, Mohawk Rivers, etc., during the colonial wars or during the American Revolution. The third image is not a bateau at all. This article is badly in need of a rewrite. It should start with a description of bateaux in general followed by sections regarding the specific types, the James River Batteau, log drive bateau, etc. GullyWalker (talk) 14:54, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 Also, the image is not a bateau and at least one or maybe more of the quotes in the article do not appear to be using the term bateau in reference to the specific boat type but rather are using the French word in a poetic manner in reference to all boats. [[User:GullyWalker|GullyWalker]] ([[User talk:GullyWalker|talk]]) 12:58, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
+== Re-write needed ==
+The new lead image is of a James River Bateau which is a particular type of bateau and not representative of the bateaux which were in use elsewhere throughout North America during the 17th and 18th centuries - this is not the bateau that was in use on the St. Lawrence, Mohawk Rivers, etc., during the colonial wars or during the American Revolution. The third image is not a bateau at all. This article is badly in need of a rewrite. It should start with a description of bateaux in general followed by sections regarding the specific types, the James River Batteau, log drive bateau, etc. [[User:GullyWalker|GullyWalker]] ([[User talk:GullyWalker|talk]]) 14:54, 25 November 2013 (UTC)