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How is Aspu pronounced? [[User:Tutthoth-Ankhre|Tutthoth-Ankhre]] ([[User talk:Tutthoth-Ankhre|talk]]) 20:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC) |
How is Aspu pronounced? [[User:Tutthoth-Ankhre|Tutthoth-Ankhre]] ([[User talk:Tutthoth-Ankhre|talk]]) 20:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Roughly like ahs-POO --[[Special:Contributions/130.243.187.211|130.243.187.211]] ([[User talk:130.243.187.211|talk]]) 22:14, 14 May 2012 (UTC) |
:Roughly like ahs-POO --[[Special:Contributions/130.243.187.211|130.243.187.211]] ([[User talk:130.243.187.211|talk]]) 22:14, 14 May 2012 (UTC) |
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::All fine and well, but let's keep on subject.. it's Apsu app-suuu here, not Aspu. How funny, a simple typo, changes everthing. [[Special:Contributions/76.218.248.127|76.218.248.127]] ([[User talk:76.218.248.127|talk]]) 18:41, 12 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Abzu / Apsu is the origin of the word ABYSS
someone claimed that "Apsu" is a Sanskrit word, and thus predates this.
1.) Sumerian predates Sanskrit. 2.) It isn't even a single morpheme - its the locative plural of Ap. Second, its use is mostly in compounds - not by itself. See MMW 59, third column.
- Yes, there's a bit of that going around lately. It needs to be reverted whenever it's noticed. TCC (talk) (contribs) 20:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- agreed, I need to get an account and start doing it for real. There has to be a point to getting an MA in Sanskrit, after all.
- Then if you value your sanity, stay away from Talk:Out of India theory. Either your brain will explode or you'll die laughing. TCC (talk) (contribs) 08:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- i saw it a year or two ago, and had to leave, there was too much nonsense. and yes, it was humorous.
- Then if you value your sanity, stay away from Talk:Out of India theory. Either your brain will explode or you'll die laughing. TCC (talk) (contribs) 08:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- agreed, I need to get an account and start doing it for real. There has to be a point to getting an MA in Sanskrit, after all.
Pronounciation?
How is Aspu pronounced? Tutthoth-Ankhre (talk) 20:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Roughly like ahs-POO --130.243.187.211 (talk) 22:14, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- All fine and well, but let's keep on subject.. it's Apsu app-suuu here, not Aspu. How funny, a simple typo, changes everthing. 76.218.248.127 (talk) 18:41, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Correct form
the correct sumerian form of the word is abzu, apsu is the akkadian gloss per EPSD http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd/nepsd-frame.html I have made this correction. also I removed this since it is not the correct sign and this passages since it also tangential
Marduk, though called "firstborn son of the apsû" is actually Ea's (Enki's) son, not Apsû's; the title is meant to be taken metaphorically, as Marduk was the first "child" born in the apsû.
--Gurdjieff (talk) 04:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
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This Abzu has something to do with the Abzu in South Africa?
That final section just screams made up crap to me. What evidence is there that the ruin in South Africa has ANYTHING to do with the Sumerians? I read the foot noted article, it was a lot of speculation and not a lot of fact. The same goes for everywhere else on the internet I looked. It seemed the only people making a connection were trying to prove an ancient aliens connection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wetaskiwin (talk • contribs) 17:22, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Having taking several college courses on the ancient Near East, Wetaskwin is correct. The only source I could find referring to South Africa was absolutely unreliable. The author of that source (whose bio appears here), an enthusiast of prehistory, clearly states the following about himself: "...I have not received any training in prehistory..." Furthermore, the alleged "South Africa-Abzu" hypothesis or whatever "ancient wisdom/ancient aliens" hypothesis is called has absolutely no basis in scientific study, and there is no evidence to suggest that it is in any way true. These ideas are rooted in some weird New Age philosophy that, knowingly or not, seems to have some contempt for academia. Besides, even if this strange hypothesis were somehow true, no professional archaeologists have ever written about it or reviewed findings of any study, making it unsuitable for a Wikipedia page. I hope that that settles the matter, and that people will stop adding fringe pseudo-scientific hypotheses to an otherwise reputable page. It is unfortunate that people can so easily be led astray by the grossly speculative and un-scientific programming of the History Channel, and I hope that this page and these posts will disabuse some individuals genuinely curious about the murkier areas of ancient Near Eastern mythology.
tl;dr: Delete references to South Africa whenever they crop up, unless they come from a legitimate academic source.— Preceding unsigned comment added by SJM 76.98.25.53 (talk) 06:46, 30 July 2013 (UTC)