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::I think what is making the situation confusing is that there may not be such a thing as a 'federal prison' outside of the US. Although we would need experts from many different counties to confirm or deny that. A [https://www.google.com/search?q=federal+prison&oq=federal+prison&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l3.2337j0&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8 Google search] for 'federal prison' brings up the [[Federal Bureau of Prisons]]'s official website as the first result. Almost all the references are pertaining to the United States. [[User:Skarz|Skarz]] ([[User talk:Skarz|talk]]) 07:24, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
::I think what is making the situation confusing is that there may not be such a thing as a 'federal prison' outside of the US. Although we would need experts from many different counties to confirm or deny that. A [https://www.google.com/search?q=federal+prison&oq=federal+prison&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l3.2337j0&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8 Google search] for 'federal prison' brings up the [[Federal Bureau of Prisons]]'s official website as the first result. Almost all the references are pertaining to the United States. [[User:Skarz|Skarz]] ([[User talk:Skarz|talk]]) 07:24, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
:::Well, here's a couple of articles using the phrase "federal prison" in relation to Canada: [http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/news/new-watchdog-report-says-federal-prison-system-is-failing-this-countrys-abo], [http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/why-are-canadian-prisoners-on-strike] ([http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2012001/article/11715-eng.htm#a3 this], to which the ''Vice'' article refers, uses the phrase "federal facility"). I think it might be the case that the results Google shows you are based in part on your location? And obviously finding sources for the Russian and Brazilian systems is more complicated because of the language barrier. – [[User:Arms & Hearts|Arms & Hearts]] ([[User talk:Arms & Hearts|talk]]) 07:45, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

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@Arms & Hearts, AJHingston, Altenmann, and Clarityfiend: So the best solution we can come up with is turn the page into a disambiguation page? There is a difference between federal and state prison and in its current form, this page does not educate the laymen on what those differences are (sorry if I'm coming off as hostile, I'm not trying to). Skarz (talk) 07:08, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily the best solution, perhaps more likely the first stage in WP:BRD. My stance, broadly speaking, is that while it may be useful to inform readers as to the differences between federal and state prisons, that fact doesn't overrule the fact that "federal prison" as an abstract concept is unlikely to be notable. Perhaps one solution would be to add a sentence of explanation (e.g. the first sentence of the former lede, though maybe that's not as clear as it could be) to the first sentence of the dab page? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 07:15, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think what is making the situation confusing is that there may not be such a thing as a 'federal prison' outside of the US. Although we would need experts from many different counties to confirm or deny that. A Google search for 'federal prison' brings up the Federal Bureau of Prisons's official website as the first result. Almost all the references are pertaining to the United States. Skarz (talk) 07:24, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, here's a couple of articles using the phrase "federal prison" in relation to Canada: [1], [2] (this, to which the Vice article refers, uses the phrase "federal facility"). I think it might be the case that the results Google shows you are based in part on your location? And obviously finding sources for the Russian and Brazilian systems is more complicated because of the language barrier. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 07:45, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]