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wikify!
Slovenly is a word I find myself using quite a bit at the moment. Slovenly is what I think of anybody who leaves a message here about an article and fails to provide a wikilink to the article. How do you expect me to read the article if you don't link to it? Even if the article has been deleted, you should still link to it.
I reserve the right to ignore any message which does not provide links where appropriate, has no heading, is in the wrong place on this page, has not been signed with ~~~~, is anonymous, etc.
And if that sounds like a grumpy old man, it's because I am ...

TWA navigation

H RHaworth! I wanted to chat with you about the TWA navigation. That's in use on several other pages, often as a footer where the white space is less problematic. I'm guessing you saw WT:TWA/Portal where the white space is indeed greedy. I'm going to undo your changes on Wikipedia:TWA/Navigation2 but then replicate them at Wikipedia:TWA/Navigation3 for use on that page. What do you think? Ocaasi ^{t | c} 19:14, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

• No. I have looked a few of the many user talk pages that transclude Wikipedia:TWA/Navigation2 and I can see absolutely no justification for putting any white space back into it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:48, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello, how are you? I think you mean this message: Wikipedia:TWA/Welcome. I agree that page doesn't need the white space. I'll see about fixing it. Cheers, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 20:00, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

One thing to keep in mind, is these messages are showing up on people who have opted-in to play the game, and who have been notified that they will be getting messages in their userspace. Cheers, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 20:05, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

• Why on earth should I mean Wikipedia:TWA/Welcome when I am talking about Wikipedia:TWA/Navigation2? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:15, 17 December 201 (UTC)

  Because WP:TWA/Welcome, contained {WP:TWA/Navigation2}  ;) I'm not sure why this seems to be a very heated issue for you but I'd appreciate if we could change the tone up a bit, it's pretty unfriendly seeming. Thanks for your help with the template, it's clear you mean well. Ocaasi ^{t | c} 23:26, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

My personal page

Please do not edit my personal page again. What you deleted was a note to wikipedia editors, such as yourself, that if you are not a student in my class, you do not have permission to edit this page. Since you are not a student, I kindly ask that you do not edit it again. Regards. Mr. Straub (talk) 02:12, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

• Replied here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:15, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

deleted article

I'd really really love to see the edge city; Life on a new frontier article. As soon as possible is really important would be amazing. Thanks! Anna Ajacobsen94 (talk) 16:38, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

The Knowledge Centre for Agriculture Deletion

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delete article

sorry to bother you but aparently you erase an article i was trying to public about Mariano Narodowski ... n you tell me why and how can re publish it? thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.23.100.23 (talk • contribs)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:06, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

FMacks

Can you have a look at FMacks' contributions? He's made all of one mainspace edit, which was incorrectly adding a protection template, and other than that, he's just been playing in his userspace, consisting largely of stuff apparently copied from Raghusri's userspace. He's also (accidentally?) changed one page there, User:Raghusri/age. Do you have any idea what he's trying to do? Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:45, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

• So why ask me? Ask him yourself. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:06, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

A User

Hello RHaworth, a user Ilovenewyear trying to create archives of my talk page (of Template and two articles of Pakistan event list). What can i do of him? -- Bluestor (Talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:04, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

• NawlinWiki is ahead of me and has done the necessary. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:06, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Isn't it suspicious that this new user has excellent knowledge of signature formatting, appears to only have made one edit (I can't see deleted edits) and has the same broken English as Yasir72.multan, which Ilovenewyear has been blocked as a sockpuppet of? Plus would a new user know to come straight to you?--Launchballer 21:40, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

• But I am just ahead of Launchballer. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:19, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Blocking accounts of Chinese users

I am writing you to inquire as to why you blocked the accounts of two different students of mine, who happen to both be named David. One is David Zheng (User:David_Zheng1998) and one is David Pan (User:David.pzh).

First, what evidence do you have that this is sock puppet account? They can send you evidence, such as scans of their school ids, that show that they are in fact two different individuals.

Second, why have you blocked our school's IP address from accessing wikipedia? You have been fully notified and know exactly what we are doing, so there should be no confusion here. My intention is to do with the Hangzhou No. 14 High School article what I did earlier this year with the Fuyang, Zhejiang, which was dramatically improved in comparison to the original article.

Thirdly, this is part of a larger problem of discrimination against China based users. As you certainly know, access to wikipedia is periodically blocked in China and it is common for the edit feature in wikipedia to be blocked in China. Wikipedia blocks VPN IP addresses and now our school address is getting blocked. This is a systematic policy of discrimination by primarily Western English speakers against 1.3 billion Chinese. And it goes against the entire policy of Wikipedia - that is - an open access website that permits users to freely contribute to the site.

My goal is to get both of these users unblocked, have the sockpuppet label removed from their accounts, and have the block on our IP address unblocked.

I am signing off on this message from my original account, David Straub, rather than my Mr. Straub account, because I'm hoping that you take me a bit more seriously this time.

Regards David Straub (talk) 23:58, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

• Firstly let me digress and comment on your accusation of "offensive terms". Please see my comments about parliamentary language. I, and many other Wikipedians accept that robust language is OK on talk pages.

Regarding the two specific blocks - please re-read this thread. It is a robust feature of the WikiMedia software that if a blocked user attempts to log in, it will invoke a block on the IP address they have used. This block should only last for 24 hours. I have unblocked the two accounts you specify. Please check for any of your students who have not edited since October. Make sure that they do not attempt to log in. Instead, check if they are still blocked as per this example and if they are let me know.

Stop this "discrimination against China based users" rubbish as far as I am concerned. I can assure you that I am perfectly happy for Chinese people to edit and will do anything I can to help circumvent your government's blocking of the internet. Indeed, I will go further: can you cite even one case of discrimination by Wikipedians against China based users? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:41, 19 December 2013 (UTC)