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James birthdate is 1948 not 1945, i feel its important to have his birth year correct |
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:Reliable sources have confirmed his birth year to be 1945. '''[[User:Gloss|<span style="font-family:Arial;color:#000080">Gloss</span>]] • [[User_talk:Gloss|<span style="font-family:Arial;color:#007BA7">talk]]'''</span> 00:28, 4 January 2014 (UTC) |
:Reliable sources have confirmed his birth year to be 1945. '''[[User:Gloss|<span style="font-family:Arial;color:#000080">Gloss</span>]] • [[User_talk:Gloss|<span style="font-family:Arial;color:#007BA7">talk]]'''</span> 00:28, 4 January 2014 (UTC) |
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I think his year of birth should be 1948. The following link [https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KT9X-5S7] which gives information from United States Public Records gives his date of birth as 27 Nov 1948. I would consider this to be the most reliable source. Before his death and before his publicist announced his age as 68 when he died sources online had his date of birth as 1948. I would say that the publicist has been in error. Also the following pdf [http://www.idvl.org/thehistorymakers/EAD/A2003.138.pdf] which shows details of an interview with him which shows his year of birth being 1948. 79.97.208.89 (talk) 08:30, 3 January 2014 (UTC) |
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Untitled
Please credit sources. Removed unencyclopedic bit about "Charmed" in the Trivia section. Adding one guest TV show credit is hardly interesting trivia, Wikipedia is not IMDB.
Splinter cell
How do we KNOW that he is going to be Irving Lambert in the upcoming splinter cell movie?? yeah foo's! harry potter--71.192.193.55 (talk) 23:10, 27 May 2010
Name
He is typically credited as "James Avery", so I don't really think the middle initial and "Senior" are necessary. For disambiguation purposes, I think the article should be "James Avery (actor)". What do you think? --T smitts (talk) 16:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- There is a disambiguation page for James Avery. It includes James L. Avery, Sr. and James Avery (sailor). I agree that the middle initial and senior are unnecessary and even burdensome to use. Perhaps someone should change the page to James Avery (actor), as is normal when there are several similar names all associated with different things. IndulgentReader (talk) 17:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was move. JPG-GR (talk) 20:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Since James L Avery Sr is typically requested as simply James Avery, I think it would be better to move this article to James Avery (actor), since his middle initial and senior really appear to be unnecessary and not-so user-friendly. Therefore I think we should move this article.--EclipseSSD (talk) 20:11, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- Support per nom. JPG-GR (talk) 03:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- Support. IndulgentReader (talk) 04:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- Support as per Wikipedia:Disambiguation and Wikipedia:Common names. Iamaleopard (talk) 21:33, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- 'Support. Queerudite (talk) 23:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- Support. older ≠ wiser 19:21, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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Fresh Prince
How in the hell does the career section of this article not even mention that he was Uncle Phil, the role for which he was best known? -Mike Payne (T • C) 18:40, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Death
News sources are reporting that he died on December 31, 2013. [1] 108.14.255.165 (talk) 19:16, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- I can verify that as well. Read here. 99.95.221.248 (talk) 14:19, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I am seeing this in several reliable sources. I think a correction will be in place soon.—John Cline (talk) 19:22, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Further, it appears that the sources cited do not state 1 January 2014 as the date of death; rather, those Wikipedia editors are reading the date of the article and assuming that to be the date of death. Edits changing the date to 31 December 2013, however, seem to be hastily reverted to the revision showing 1 January 2014. 76.175.17.28 (talk) 19:34, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I am seeing this in several reliable sources. I think a correction will be in place soon.—John Cline (talk) 19:22, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
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He died on the 31st of December 2013, not on January 1st, 2014. Adamdangerzone (talk) 19:34, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
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According to the current entry, James Avery died today on January 1st. But the article linked to the story does NOT state his actual date of passing. According to CNN.com, his publicist confirmed that he passed on Tuesday. Therefore the date of death is incorrect.
″Actor James Avery, who played the beloved Uncle Phil on the hit 1990s sitcom ′The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air,′ died Tuesday, his publicist confirmed. He was 65.″
Djdaem0n (talk) 19:36, 1 January 2014 (UTC)djdaem0n
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Please change the date of death from January 1st, to December 31st.
″Actor James Avery, who played the beloved Uncle Phil on the hit 1990s sitcom ′The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air,′ died Tuesday, his publicist confirmed. He was 65.″
Djdaem0n (talk) 19:37, 1 January 2014 (UTC)djdaem0n
- It is Done.—John Cline (talk) 19:39, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Year of Birth
Sources seem to differ was he 65 or 67 years old? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.34.211 (talk) 20:13, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- It appears he was 65. See here Gloss • talk 20:17, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- That one says 68 now... Seems like an even balance so far of 67 and 65... – Connormah (talk) 20:24, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- It said 65 a few minutes ago, weird. Gloss • talk 20:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Probably best to wait for a LA Times, NY Times, or Washington Post obit to clear it up.. – Connormah (talk) 20:32, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, 1946 seems to be what most sources report now. I'd be in favour of a change.. – Connormah (talk) 20:41, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- 1945 also being reported... – Connormah (talk) 20:43, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- That one says 68 now... Seems like an even balance so far of 67 and 65... – Connormah (talk) 20:24, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- CNN reports his age as 68 as does the NY Daily News. But multiple sources still say he was 65, so it seems that no one really knows as of now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.128.86 (talk) 21:49, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
1948 seems to be the most logical date of birth. This is based upon his bio "He joined the United States Navy shortly after high school graduation and served in the Vietnam War from 1968 to 1969." Had he been born in 1945 he would have been 23 and in the war versus 20 being born in 1948. Most people join for 4 years and would be out by 22. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.63.171.51 (talk) 22:37, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- 1948 is the correct year, after extensive search, i came across this from familysearch. We know his mother's names is Florence J Avery, his wife was Barbara Waters (has a son named Kevin Waters from a previous marriage) and after marrying Avery became Barbara Waters-Avery (ignore the missing dash) and we know that he has lived in New Jersey..this is probably the best source we have..--Stemoc (talk) 00:09, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Image
Is it possible to get an image uploaded for him? I think it'd be appropriate, since this article will be heavily viewed now..--Uwatch310 (talk) 23:39, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Reply - Can the image can be moved to commons, so that it can be used on other Wikimedia projects? --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:31, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Done. --Komischn (talk) 03:05, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. 76.236.121.35 (talk) 07:01, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Done. --Komischn (talk) 03:05, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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Change his birthday to 27 november 1948. (according to imdb)
S.suetens (talk) 07:32, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- IMDb is not always a reliable source and better sources have been found with his correct birth year. 1945. Gloss • talk 07:35, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
There is great confusion to his age actually. Many sources are saying 68 and many others are saying 65. His publicist said he was 68 but and interview back in 2003 had his birth year as 1948 making 65. 79.97.208.89 (talk) 11:06, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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I believe that November 27, 1945 should be changed to November 27, 1948. Thank you.
I believe the following is reliable source for his age. It states his birth year as being 1948. It is not verified but I would say the publicist made a mistake when she said his age was 68. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KT9X-5S7 79.97.208.89 (talk) 03:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Wongryan1 (talk) 17:23, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Technical 13 (talk) 17:33, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Requested move 2014
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– The stats of the actor prove him more popular than other "James Avery"s. However, if popularity is not strong criterion for primacy, is the actor more significant than the Canadian baseball player, the US Civil War soldier, or the American colonist? George Ho (talk) 22:14, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose - sorry WP:RECENT, besides (actor) will only help people, it's a highly naturalistic dab. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose per iio. Dicklyon (talk) 03:24, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose - WP:RECENT all the way, if not for his death, his views were probably closer to the other James Avery's. STATic message me! 07:29, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
- The colonist, the baseball player, and the soldier aren't that popular. George Ho (talk) 07:43, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Recent News (death)
With his recent death, there has a been a large surge of more recent coverage on him (albeight mostly from blogs, not so much news stations). If nothing else, the main people watching this article should prepare for that and/or look into them. He seems to be making quite a splash outside of the 'formal' news sources. 67.10.113.107 (talk) 23:34, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2014
I think his year of birth should be 1948. The following link [2] which gives information from United States Public Records gives his date of birth as 27 Nov 1948. 79.97.208.89 (talk) 08:30, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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Jacklost (talk) 23:56, 3 January 2014 (UTC) James birthdate is 1948 not 1945, i feel its important to have his birth year correct
- Reliable sources have confirmed his birth year to be 1945. Gloss • talk 00:28, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
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I think his year of birth should be 1948. The following link [3] which gives information from United States Public Records gives his date of birth as 27 Nov 1948. I would consider this to be the most reliable source. Before his death and before his publicist announced his age as 68 when he died sources online had his date of birth as 1948. I would say that the publicist has been in error. Also the following pdf [4] which shows details of an interview with him which shows his year of birth being 1948. 79.97.208.89 (talk) 08:30, 3 January 2014 (UTC) 79.97.208.89 (talk) 10:05, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
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