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Can someone please edit this article? It's really poorly written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.178.29.242 (talk) 15:51, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move. This is clearly the way to go per WP:PRECISION and WP:NCM. Discussions of potential merge should continue below. Cúchullain ^t/c 18:03, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet Nothing (Calvin Harris song) → Sweet Nothing (song) – This is the only song titled Sweet Nothing. 68.44.51.49 (talk) 21:11, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Sonic's Rendezvous Band had an album and a song of this name. Cage 9 had a song, Mark Gillespie had an album, but not a song. It won't harm anyone to have Calvin Harris as disambiguator. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:42, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Yeah, but their album and song don't even have articles right now. Feel free to make them, though! 68.44.51.49 (talk) 01:28, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I realise that, and there is a view that if something doesn't have an article en.wp should pretend it doesn't exist. I personally don't share that view, others do. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:07, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per IIO, "song" should be redirected to the disambiguation page Sweet Nothings (disambiguation) -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 06:43, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
'Oppose.' Little point moving something that has neither references or claims of notability. IMO, for anybody looking for a specific song by a specific artist having the artists' name as part of the title save much searching.--Richhoncho (talk) 20:14, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Again, I don't see any songs named Sweet Nothing on the disambiguation page except this one. In this case, it's common sense. 68.44.51.49 (talk) 01:18, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And my point was with neither references nor notability I can't see this song notable enough to have an article, let alone a discussion regarding what the article title should be. As an aside, I also opined that it could be better to disambiguate by the artist name in any event, but I don't think there is much point going through that again, now. --Richhoncho (talk) 11:58, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:PRECISION. Also the clear primary topic. Jenks24 (talk) 15:39, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Calvin Harris discography. The article is very short, has no indepentant references, and it never charted. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 15:12, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Calvin Harris discography. Article fails to meet WP:NSONGS. Now the real option is out, might as well support it.--Richhoncho (talk) 08:19, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! Sweet Nuthin'? Merge and redirect for now? Dekimasuよ! 05:39, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This isn't the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (that would be Sweet Nothing), so it needs a qualifier. WP:NCM specifies using (song). We don't pretend that things not on WP don't exist (re In ictu oculi's note), but we also don't pretend that Wikipedia titles need to be aware of all future articles. Merge discussion should be handled via AfD, not RM. -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 2

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved, and let's refer the above move to move review. Andrewa (talk) 00:32, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet Nothing (song) → Sweet Nothing – The song dwarfs the film in popularity and relevance by miles. Unreal7 (talk) 13:48, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - too many other "Sweet Nothing" targets on Sweet Nothings dab. There wasn't really a clear consensus for removing the name of artist (~~Calvin Harris~~ song) in the previous RM, I'm not sure if removing (song) is worse or better, probably even worse. This is highly WP:RECENT and only makes life difficult for Calvin Harris fans to hide the song further, let alone anyone else. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:20, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose it should revert to Sweet Nothing (Calvin Harris song) per other songs on the disambiguation page. -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 06:11, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. As iio says, it should be moved back to Calvin Harris. Just a simple count of above RM, 3 opposes, 2 supports and two suggestions of merge and redirect (which should have been counted as a "not move" is enough to prove there is no consensus for further moving. BTW Unreal, why do you want to hide the song from Calvin Harris fans so much? --Richhoncho (talk) 15:35, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Eh? That's got nothing to do with this. There is only one other article called Sweet Nothing - a stub film which lacks info. Hence why I suggsted this. Unreal7 (talk) 13:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Rushton2010 (talk) 23:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – and a wag of the finger to Cúchullain for inventing a consensus, above, where none existed. Dicklyon (talk) 02:39, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Move review

I've taken the first step see User talk:Cuchullain#Move review of Sweet Nothing (song). Andrewa (talk) 00:54, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reaction was not too supportive of the Move review, so I've agreed to raise a new RM instead. Andrewa (talk) 13:24, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 February 2014

The request to rename this article to Sweet Nothing (Calvin Harris song) has been carried out.

If the page title has consensus, be sure to close this discussion using {{subst:RM top|'''page moved'''.}} and {{subst:RM bottom}} and remove the {{Requested move/dated|…}} tag, or replace it with the {{subst:Requested move/end|…}} tag.

Sweet Nothing (song) → Sweet Nothing (Calvin Harris song) – The discussion of the second RM above strongly suggests to me that the first would not succeed if proposed today, to the point that I think this should be tested. The possibility of a move review was raised with the closer of the first RM, but they have requested for what seem to me to be valid reasons that we go to a fresh RM instead, see above. Andrewa (talk) 13:24, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

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 I've taken the first step see [[User talk:Cuchullain#Move review of Sweet Nothing (song)]]. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 00:54, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
+Reaction was not too supportive of the Move review, so I've agreed to raise a new RM instead. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 13:24, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
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+[[:Sweet Nothing (song)]] → {{no redirect|Sweet Nothing (Calvin Harris song)}} – The discussion of the second RM above strongly suggests to me that the first would not succeed if proposed today, to the point that I think this should be tested. The possibility of a move review was raised with the closer of the first RM, but they have requested for what seem to me to be valid reasons that we go to a fresh RM instead, see above. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 13:24, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
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