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It's worth noting that the Sudan Railways Corp.'s official page's Historical Background discusses Isma'il Pasha's initial line but muffs the English. The 165 mi (266 km) distance was not (even possibly) "reached" in 1875: the railway barely got the 30 mi (48 km) distance to Sarras two years later. What is apparently meant was that the line was formally proposed (and possibly initially funded) beginning in 1875 with the intention of reaching some place 165 miles distant which was somehow romanized as "Umbacall", although Google seems to have no idea where it is. (You can go to page 88 here or just CTRL+F for "Umbacall".)

165 miles doesn't get them to Abu Hamad and that wasn't the route anyway. Isma'il seemed to want to follow the river along its various settlements. According to these guys, 165 miles is just south of what Google Maps calls "Abu Sari". It shows some settlement further upstream but doesn't have a modern name for them. (Possibly, they're just simple estates or farmsteads now.) — LlywelynII 07:15, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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-It's worth noting that the Sudan Railways Corp.'s official page's [http://sudanrailways.gov.sd/en/history.htm Historical Background] discusses Isma'il Pasha's initial line but muffs the English. The {{convert|165|mi|km|sp=us|abbr=on}} distance was not (even possibly) "'''reached'''" in 1875: the railway barely got the {{convert|30|mi|km|sp=us|abbr=on|adj=on}} distance to [[Sarras, Sudan|Sarras]] two years later. What is ''apparently'' meant was that the line was formally proposed (and possibly initially funded) beginning in 1875 with the ''intention'' of reaching some place 165 miles distant which was somehow romanized as "Umbacall", although [http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22Umbacall%22 Google seems to have no idea where it is]. (You can go to page 88 [http://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/dspace/bitstream/1808/10678/1/McLellan_ku_0099M_11939_DATA_1.pdf here] or just CTRL+F for "Umbacall".)
+It's worth noting that the Sudan Railways Corp.'s official page's [http://sudanrailways.gov.sd/en/history.htm Historical Background] discusses Isma'il Pasha's initial line but muffs the English. The {{convert|165|mi|km|sp=us|abbr=on}} distance was not (even possibly) "''reached''" in 1875: the railway barely got the {{convert|30|mi|km|sp=us|abbr=on|adj=on}} distance to [[Sarras, Sudan|Sarras]] two years later. What is ''apparently'' meant was that the line was formally proposed (and possibly initially funded) beginning in 1875 with the ''intention'' of reaching some place 165 miles distant which was somehow romanized as "Umbacall", although [http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22Umbacall%22 Google seems to have no idea where it is]. (You can go to page 88 [http://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/dspace/bitstream/1808/10678/1/McLellan_ku_0099M_11939_DATA_1.pdf here] or just CTRL+F for "Umbacall".)
 miles doesn't get them to [[Abu Hamad]] and that wasn't the route anyway. Isma'il seemed to want to follow the river along its various settlements. [http://distancecalculator.himmera.com/driving_distance_from-wadi_halfa_to_khartoum_between_road_direction-39364.html According to these guys], 165 miles is just south of what Google Maps calls "Abu Sari". It shows some settlement further upstream but doesn't have a modern name for them. (Possibly, they're just simple estates or farmsteads now.)&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn<font color="Gold">II</font></span>]] 07:15, 13 February 2014 (UTC)