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June 13

Polls on talk pages

I have seen other uses post polls on a talk page to gauge consensus for including/not including something in an article. How do I do this? I've searched through the FAQ and so on, no help yet. joye 00:36, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Generally you do not want to do this. Polls should only be resorted to after lots of discussion and thorough review. Instead of resorting to polls, try building consensus. --Hetar 00:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hello Editors.

I am a Blogger. I have many Blogs from blogger.com I wanted to contribute these blogs to the great WIKI. So can i please place my blogs in the related pages?

I try to login but failed always.

I'm afraid that would be advertising which is one of the things included in the list of things that should NOT be on Wikipedia. Also, see our policy on external links. Individual blogs are generally not important enough to be link to general articles about blogging. - Mgm|^(talk) 04:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3RR

Does the 3RR hold even if we are reverting vandalism? -- Lost 05:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. You can see under WP:3RR#Detail, it says, "This policy does not apply to self-reverts, correcting simple vandalism, reversions for the purpose of maintenance (such as on the Introduction or the Sandbox), or reverting the edits of a banned or blocked user." E WS23 (Leave me a message!) 05:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But be careful. Differences of opinions are not vandalism and sometimes it's hard to make the dinstinction. - 131.211.210.13 07:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I realise that. thanks for the advice.. I meant only blatant vandalism -- Lost 07:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That anon was me. You can never be too careful so I thought I'd throw it in...- Mgm|^(talk) 09:13, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Taking infobox, removing it, turning an article out of stub status

Hello, a while back I made an article called Get Real (television series), and it rightfully got called a stub.

The article includes a lot of info in an infobox but not much for the text.

Should I revert from the infobox to justify making the article without redundancies? That will get it out of stub status, but it seems infoboxes are preferred for television shows.

I should log in - User:Guroadrunner 11:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, the information in an infobox is generally repeated in full sentences in the article. If you have no more info than what's in the box, it will be a stub no matter what form you present the info in. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There's nothing "wrong" with being a stub - sure, it's better to have a full article if you can, but there's no need to take artificial steps to "get out" of stub status. — Estarriol ^talk 15:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input. I wish I could add more, but because I don't have the episodes, adding a full article would be somewhat redundant to what is in the infobox. I might do something with it, but I don't remember anything not in the infobox already but basic character information Guroadrunner 09:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deletion of page

have found a page entitled "Aherla" which is completely false and is some kind of joke, how should i go about getting it deleted or changed??

See Wikipedia:Guide to deletion. Briefly:

Some articles are so rubbish they can be deleted on sight, such as "John Doe is a real cool guy" - see Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion.
Some articles can't be speedied, but are still uncontroversial deletion material, so we put a tag on them and delete the article in five days if it isn't removed. See Wikipedia:Proposed deletion.
For articles whose deletion would be controversial, we have a full discussion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion.

But in the case of Aherla, there was a perfectly legitimate article there which had unfortunately been vandalised. It's already been reverted, so perhaps the problem's already fixed. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 14:35, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia edits count as Community service?

I was just thinking...would time spent editing Wikipedia count as community service hours? I am not asking this becuase I am desparate for hours or anything, but the though just came across my mind. It is helping out the community by providing information from my own time, but then who would "sign off" on it? I'd like to know other peoples' opinions on this. → J @red 15:35, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not to my knowledge, no. Unless you live near St. Petersburg, FL, USA, where Wikimedia is based, there won't really be anyone to sign off on your contributions anyway. --Pilot|guy 15:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice idea, though. Gy re 03:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blank Image

I am working on an article that requires an image in the infobox, otherwise it comes out with the [[image]] tag. Is there a blank, white image on Wikipedia or in the commons that I can use? This way, no image will show up, but neither will the missing image tag.--Nmajdan 18:16, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:No image yet. See that page. → J @red 18:21, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I change the name of an article

I just started a new page and I wanted to remove one of the words from the title. How do I do this?

When your account gets to be 4 days old you could move the article using the "move" button (it will appear to the right of the "edit this page" button). Since you are new you don't have it yet, so ask here and someone will move it for you.--Commander Keane 19:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Internal link font color

I'd like to change the color of an internal link (I'm trying to make it white on a purple or other dark background in the title of a navigation box), but it comes up in blue despite <font> tags. What's the right way to do it? Is it possible? Peter Znamenskiy 21:01, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[[Your link|<font color="orange">Your link</font>]] = Your link. Basically you need to pipe the link and include the colour in the second part. --Cherry blossom tree 21:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Of course this is bad in terms of usability. Web surfers expect links to be blue. Don't mess with the colours in the Main/Portal space (or anywhere ideally).--Commander Keane 22:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editing your monobook.js subpage (note the capitalization) should be able to change this for only you, but I have no idea what particular code you'd need. Try asking at the User styles WikiProject. - Mgm|^(talk) 04:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strenght Of Preference Testing

Hi, Do you know where I can find info on the subject of Strength Of Preference research. It is a form of Psychology that seeks to predict behavior by observing a persons choices and then extrapolating from the gathered info. Most people have not heard of it. Thanks, Terry Chestnutt

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps.--Cherry blossom tree 21:41, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Noteworthiness?

How noteworthy is something like, say, a high school marching band? Would it be important enough to be part of an article (like the article on the town the high school is in) or an article on it's own? Delta 22:12, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, you may just want to include something about it within the high school article itself. Good to hear there's another band dork on there though! :) --Pilot|guy 22:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If they are a nationally known band which has appeared in several Rose Parades, have been invited to the White House, have performed overseas, have won multiple awards and have been written up by several major newspapers, then, yes, you could create an article for them, so long as you included all of that in the article. User:Zoe|^(talk) 23:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ski Resorts

I'd like to start an article about ski resorts around the world. Possibly even having an individual page for each resort. Is Wikipedia the correct forum to create such a page?

Quite possibly. Check out the articles in Category:Ski resorts.--Commander Keane 22:35, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Complete list of templates, etc.

Is there a page with the complete list of all the templates, stubs, etc? Like all the things with "{{" and "}}. I know there's lists of stubs, but I can't seem to find one with all of them. Wizrdwarts (T|C) 22:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not exactly sure what you are looking for. You can view a list of all templates using Special:Prefixindex, eg here--Commander Keane 22:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Like a page with all templates, all stubs, etc, basiclly a list of everything that goes between "{{" and "}}" Wizrdwarts (T|C) 22:41, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I see now, the formatting of your question was broken (I have inserted nowiki tags to fix it up). Well the link I already gave is a list of all pages in the template namespace (which includes stub templates). However every page in Wikipedia can be transcluded using "{{" and "}}" (including your userpage, an article on bananas - whatever). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Commander Keane (talk • contribs) .

Also, you can easily browse all the different types of stubs at Category:Stub categories. --Hetar 22:47, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 14

Template questions

Im curious if its actually possible for a user such as myself to create templates or if they are for admin-types only. Im interested in using a template for my Japanese Light Cruiser articles ive been editing. Having the class of the cruiser as a link and the name of all the ships of that same class underneath as links in a template would be something im interested in doing. If someone could bring me through how to create a template or perhaps even create the templated themselves... give me a shout on my talk page :) Jeremy D. 00:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please disregard last post. Figured out how to create templates. Its not just for admins after all -Dances- Jeremy D. 01:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rss

Is there an RSS feed for wikipedia that I can put on my personalized google homepage?

Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.98.113.155 (talk • contribs) 04:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

There's several, it depends on exactly what you're looking for. Recent changes to a particular article? Recent changes to the entire database? New articles? Issues from the Wikipedia Signpost? Tito xd^(?!?) 04:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:RSS. - 131.211.210.11 07:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wikimedia secure

I've just discovered the existence of secure.wikimedia.org. I had no idea that we had such a thing. I would like to read a technical description of what it does and how it works and when it was implemented, but I could find no information here or at meta. Can you point me in the right direction? -lethe ^{talk +} 04:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not much, but I found this on the mail list archives. -lethe ^{talk +} 05:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IIRC, it is only used for Wiktionary's block of AOL. Tito xd^(?!?) 05:57, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They also use it in China to get past the Great Firewall. It sometimes works. WP 07:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Learning New Languages on Wikipedia

Hello,

I think Wikipedia provides facility for learning new languages online.I wish to know how I can access it.

Thankyou.

Sincerely, Varsha Thakur

If you scroll to the bottom of the Main Page you can see which languages Wikipedia is available in, but if you want to learn a language, you're probably better off finding an online text book at WikiBooks. - 131.211.210.11 07:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

adding a listing

anyone know how you add a listing?

See Your first article and Wikipedia:How to start a page. It's probably a good idea to read WP:NOT as well to see the type of things we're not interested in. - 131.211.210.11 07:34, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

jdbc

what is url jdbc driver, how much it is fast than others drivers in jdbc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xferozx (talk • contribs)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Java Database Connectivity. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that doesn't solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They'll be glad to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. -- Natalya 11:57, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Cited by media" template??

I was reading a magazine and saw they had referenced a WP article (namely FIFA World Cup Trophy)... I think I've seen a template on talk pages before which noted when an article was cited by some other media source. Does one exist, if so, where? Thanks. AlbinoMonkey ^(Talk) 12:27, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia as a press source 2006 has all the details, but the specific templates are Template:authoronlinesource2006 or Template:onlinesource2006. --Hetar 19:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Furniture

I purchased a 4 piece living room set from Brookhouse furniture store the manager sold me the floor sample he said this was the last one and it was discontinued, so I brought the last set. Last week I told him I need to see it before I make the final payment he said no problem he will have it deliver to the store this week, he calls me on my cell phone yesterday and tells me there is a problem he can't sell me this set because something is wrong and I need to come into the store so we can talk. On the my cell phone yesterday he told me get get me the same set brand new in the box?

I am entitled to get a full refund?

Please help me!

Doreen Brittt

E-mail--(removed)

Cell# (removed)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. f e tofs ^Hello! 13:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They'll probably want to know which country you live in... Dweller 17:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image won't load

Help! I uploaded an improved version of Image:Lake Texcoco c 1519 .png, but the image won't load on Aztec. I just get that red X. And when I go to the page itself, the image also won't load there, but when I click on non-loaded image, I do get to see the image (and it's rather huge). So what's up here? Is my new image too large somehow? (And, strangely enough, the new upload does not appear on My Contributions). Help! Madman 15:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, the image might be corrupted. Try re-saving/re-uploading. — TheKMan^talk 15:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I re-PNG'ed the map and re-saved (it was strangely smaller), and then re-uploaded, and it's working. Mighty strange. Thanks, Madman 17:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The M-113 is not named Gavin, for Pete's sake

QUITE a few articles containing "M-113"/"M113" have been changed by Mike Sparks and/or his followers, to nick the vehicle "GAVIN". This was never, is not, and will never happen. The Pentagon has categorically denied the existance of such a nickname. I can come with fifty arguments/proofs that the car IS NOT nicked Gavin, and Mike Sparks and others can give NO written evidence of ANY kind besides MS' own websites. But what am I supposed to do? These edits keep happening, should the articles be labelled { { somethingsomething } }? Henning 17:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You need to provide this evidence on the talk pages of the articles in question. If the evidence is clear and people continue to remove it after that, you may want to seek mediation. --Hetar 19:16, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That should be easy. If they can't provide reliable evidence, policy says it has to go. Get mediation, RFC or as a last resort RFAr to enforce it. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

British Grenadiers Requested Move

Hi Wikipedia - I'm a budding editor/author. I requested a change of title from "British Grenadiers" to "The British Grenadiers".

Firstly, I notice that the article does not yet carry an announcement about that Requested Move. And yet I have seen similar boxes on other articles. Why is this?

Secondly, and more importantly, on the British Grenadiers Talk page I created, the article's author has already agreed to the title change. This would indicate to me that the change can now occur.

I am not sure what happens from here on in. Can you please implement my requested title change or tell me how to do it?

Also can you please tell me how to redo the redirect?

Thanks. FClef 19:34, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requested moves has all the details for requesting page moves. The article doesn't carry an anouncement at the top because you didn't put one there. Just follow the instructions listed in the link and you should be fine. --Hetar 19:37, 14 June 2006

(UTC)

Dear Hetar, Does Wikipedia do the requested move and new redirects or do I do it? (I did look at the page, I swear, but am something of a technovirgin...or should that be techno-idiot?) Thanks. FClef 19:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you propose the move by following the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves (which should be fairly simple) then someone will do the actual move for you. I prefer this method, because it also gives other editors a chance to comment on the move, and to make sure that it agrees with any obscure naming conventions that may be in existance. --Hetar 19:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for encouragement. Yippee - I found the way of doing the announcement (that is the Move template, I surmised after a while). So things just take their own course now? (i.e., is it the announcement that puts this onto the Wikipedia administrators' desks and they get on with it in their infinite wisdom?) FClef 19:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you listed the article at Wikipedia:Requested moves then it is discussed for about 5 days and then acted on shortly after. --Hetar 20:11, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But note: Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Avoid the definite article ("the") and the indefinite article ("a"/"an") at the beginning of the page name. More info at: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite and indefinite articles at beginning of name). Thanks/wangi 21:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Understood; but notwithstanding this, the definite article here is an integral part of the title. I will copy your comment, for which many thanks, together with this reply to the discussion section of the talk page of the article and refer you there for further discussion over the next five days. -- FClef 23:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help in creating maps

Could someone tell me how to include in a localised map, a world map in a small box which gives the exact location of the map (If you didn't understand here's a example:Image:LocationLebanon.png). Could you tell me which software and what techniques you use for creating these kind of maps? Thank you. CG 20:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Basic bitmap image editing has all the details of image editing, as well as several different programs that you could use for this type of creation. --Hetar 21:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To add the mini-map to Image:Olmec Heartland 1.png, I simply used Paint (you know, that little Windows app). I had two Paints running, reduced the Mexico map to about 15% of the original, and copied and pasted it on top of the localised map.

I use MS PictureIt! to add the words to my maps. I wish I had some fancier tools than these, but I don't and I don't want to spend gobs of money buying any.

Hope this helps, Madman 21:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, but I find it hard to crop a map but with keeping the same width/length ration for the cropped map. CG 18:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question re problem using Copy and Paste

I just registered today after using WP for some time. An editor named User:Timrem graciously took time to help me and I wanted to send him a wikicookie as a Thank You. I highlighted the image and text for the wikicookie on the Awards page, right-clicked on Copy, then went to Timrem's Talkpage. The problem is that when I right-clicked on Paste, it appears that only the text was copied, not the image itself. Can someone expalin whether I did something wrong, or perhaps my browser (Internet Explorer) isn't displaying it properly? Thanks in advance for your help. Doc Tropics 21:48, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Doc. Just copy this code [[Image:Wikicookie.jpg|right|frame|text you want to display with yummy chocolatey award]]. Replace the text where indicated. The reason you were having trouble, I think, is that the image itself was transcluded in a template for that page. --Fuhghettaboutit 22:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to you, User:Timrem is now able to enjoy a well-deserved cookie. Happy editing! Doc Tropics 22:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indiscriminate collection of information?

In the article Drina, is the list of all the cities the river passes allowed, or does it fall under "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information"? --Mo-Al 23:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That depends, but I would personally prefer a map over a list of cities in such cases. - 131.211.210.12 08:32, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, is there any reason that the more well-known ones, like Rio Grande, don't? I see that there is a map, but there must be some sort of WIkipedia policy which would proscribe making long lists of places which there is no information about to describe the path of a minor river.--Mo-Al 01:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 15

Crossposting & search

I have two questions. Firstly how do you crosspost. In this instance i need to post a comment to a user talk page and an article discussion page.

My second question is is there a search function for the wikipedia help. I have looked long and hard and can't find one. I find it really hard to find things in wikipedia help. I go round in circles a lot trying to find things.

Thnaks.

Morgan Leigh 01:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just copy the comment and post it in the two separate places. There is no simple 'one-click' tool for 'cross-posting'.
Type in what you want to search for in the left side bar and click on search. At the bottom of the next screen there are several checkboxes. Checking the Help checkbox, and clicking the lower search box (not the upper one) will preform a search of only the help pages. Personally I find it much easier to use WP:HELP and just navigate to my area of interest. --Hetar 01:56, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Thank you!

Morgan Leigh 11:36, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clifton E. Marsh

How to I edit the headline of this entry???? I want to take the E. out to get a better search

Please read Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) to make sure the name change is in line with current naming conventions.
If you just recently created your account you will not be able to move pages for several days. If this is the case, visit WP:RM and list your request there.
If your account is more than several days old, Help:Moving a page has all the information you need to fix this problem. --Hetar 03:24, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the naming convention is currently correct, i.e., after reading the naming convention guidelines, you come to the conclusion the name should remain with the middle initial, a second option would be to create a redirect to the name without the middle initial. Note that if you do move the page, a redirect will automatically be created for the present name.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Userboxes

Can anyone tell me why I'm unable to make an image display in a userbox? Please refer to the history on the following userbox I've "fooled" around with. I put in the image I wanted, and nothin'. Thanks for your help! Hucz 05:01, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the image you are using comes from the game and is copyrighted. It should not be used in userboxes or anywhere outside the main article space, and its license should be changed to fair use. --Hetar 05:09, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll correct this, thanks for your help also. It is MUCH appreciated. Hetar to the rescue once again! Hucz 05:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

some newly uploaded images do not show in file.

i just created and uploaded a shitload of PNG files for use in Zero-order hold and First-order hold (both articles i have recently created). these are very similar to other images that User:Petr.adamek created and he gave me source so i could make these new images. i am also using 2 of his original images which show up fine in the articles. all images are PD with no rights reserved. except for 2 images in First-order hold, none of my newly uploaded images show in the articles, but there are clickable links and they show just fine when you click the link.

the funky images are: Image:Zeroorderhold.impluseresponse.png Image:Firstorderhold.signal.png Image:Firstorderhold.impluseresponse.png Image:Predictivefirstorderhold.signal.png Image:Predictivefirstorderhold.impluseresponse.png

oddly the images Image:Causalfirstorderhold.signal.png Image:Causalfirstorderhold.impluseresponse.png show up just fine (as they might here).

what's the deel? also, i just noticed that i misspelled "impulseresponse" in 4 of the file names. is there a way to fix that or are we stuck to these misspelled file names like the tar baby? r b-j 06:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As seen all over Village pump tech some images aren't displaying (a server problem I guess). To fix it you purge the image a few times (example url). There isn't an easy way to rename images, you will need to re-upload under better filenames, then get an admin to speedy delete the old ones (using {{db|duplicate with wrong filename, see real one at...}} etc). Since the images are free consider uploading to Commons so other language Wikipedias can use them.--Commander Keane 07:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have stopped your image examples displaying here. They all worked for me, since my thumbnail size in prefs is different to yours and the server hasn't cached a bad version at my size - just at yours (that's my guess, i'm not a tech guru). You can mess around with the image size in an article to get them displaying, eg 200px, 150px etc.--Commander Keane 07:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nathaniel Bar-Jonah

Hi

I've been one of a number of editors who've worked on this recently created article about a particularly unpleasant criminal.

Together, we've made it less scurrilous and more truthful than the original article, which I initially flagged as a speedy because it didn't even occur to me it could be true!

In the eventuality, some of the worst accusations against the subject were found to have been not proven and the article was amended to reflect this.

However, the talk page [[1]] still contains unproven and certainly defamatory comments about the subject. I'm wary about wading into someone else's comments on a Talk page, but under these circumstances can/should I or an admin delete these comments made by another user?

Glad of assistance

Dweller 09:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think removing those comments would probably be a bad idea. There's nothing to stop you voicing your objections and pointing out that these accusations aren't verifiable, though. Help:Talk page has the details. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 10:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help, but I couldn't find anything relevant on that page (or any of the several promising-sounding links from it that I tried). I'll add the not verifiable comment, but I still think it's wrong for the site to carry a "statement of fact" that's not fact, even if contradicted. Dweller 10:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The idea is that, although non-verifiable content gets removed from the article page, it stays on the talk page. That way, although readers get the cleaned up version, editors can look at the talk page and see how the consensus was reached. Make your case well and you've got nothing to worry about. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 11:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Info on Web site http://www.fact-index.com/1/19/1947.html

Info regarding Larry Doby as first black player in American League is omitted. First game is July 5, 1947 playing center field for Cleveland Indians making baseball fully integrated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.228.11.129 (talk • contribs) 13:51, 15 June 2006 UTC.

The fact-index page seems to be a mirror of our 1947 page, but it's either edited or out of date. Our 1947 page doesn't have Larry Doby on it either, though - have a read of the page and if it seems appropriate to add him, go ahead. The edit button's at the top, and your contributions to wikipedia are welcome. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 14:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Species

Hello, I just uploaded image:unknown catarpillar.jpg and image:unknown beetle.jpg to commons. I wonder, when I have more pictures of unknown insects, what is a good place to turn to for determination? I am a photographer, and not a biologist. Thx, IIVQ 16:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The people at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life will help you identify your animal pictures.--Cherry blossom tree 18:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This sort of question also tends to get asked over at the Science Reference Desk. Confusing Manifestation 23:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Newspaper Article

Would it be allright if I use large excerpts from an article in a local newspaper from 1964? I would cite the source, of course. Forgive me if this is in the FAQ, just busy at work..

Generally, no. Please see WP:FAIR, which I quote "In general, extensive quotation of copyrighted news materials (such as newspapers and wire services), movie scripts, or any other copyrighted text is not fair use and is prohibited by Wikipedia policy." Now, as that page points out, ideas cannot be copyrighted, so if it's the ideas you want to use (rather than the exact words as a quote) you're best of rewording it. If you are wanting to use the exact words, you can (under fair use) use small quotes (fully attributed) and reference the document. If you need any further advice on this matter, you're welcome to leave a message on my talk page. Cheers. — Estarriol ^talk 19:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism Software for Mac OS X

Does anyone know of anything like VandalProof that will work on a Mac? I'm going nuts trying to properly note changes when I find and revert vandalism (my new hobby). Thanks! Phauge 19:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CryptoDerk's Vandal Fighter, perhaps? - 87.209.70.231 20:20, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- What d'ya know! It does! Thanks from another Mac user. Dismas|^(talk) 21:43, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox- political parties

Hi,

My question is about political infoboxes of the form: Infobox_COUNTRYNAME_Political_Party

How do I create one? Where is the list of all infoboxes in this category (It is NOT under politics in the Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Society)? Can you explain the difference between infoboxes and template infoboxes? Of which of the two is the type I specified (i.e. political party infoboxes)?

Do I need to ask premission to create a new infobox for the political parties of my country (provided that it doesn't have one yet)? What guidelines should I use for this specific purpose?

Can you please answer me via my talk page?

Thanks,

Tal :) 20:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removal

Can I remove a rejected proposal template from a page that is a group and not a policy proposal. Please reply on my talk page. Geo.plrd 21:35, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on the case in question. What page are you discussing and under what circumstances was the rejected template placed on it? Is there consensus for it being there? --Cherry blossom tree 21:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC) (also posted to talk page)[reply]

Geo.plrd is probably referring to Wikipedia:Justice Court, which is apparently a moot court presided over by Geo.plrd that judges whether Wikipedia 'officials' should be listed on a 'Shameboard'. The answer is no. There are several existing channels for dispute resolution, and this sort of a proposal (or group, or whatever) would conflict with fundamental Wikipedia policies on harassment and personal attacks. --Kwekubo 00:20, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Templates does not display properly

Hello, Just started using Wikipedia a couple of days ago. I created a template. To test my templates, I clicked on the links to add my context. Which worked great, however I wanted to reuse these templates and now it seems I've permanently update the template with my context. For example:

template should display: Template:Description template now displays: the dog is black

When I click on the edit link on the template page, I still see the "Template:Description". I've tried to rollback, however it seems as though my added text "the dog is black" is permanently set on this template.

One more question regarding templates, how do you use these templates on a different page? For example, the templates I created are under the templates sub category under Main Page. So if I want to use the templates how do I display it under the "Animals" sub category? Perhaps I overlooked this explanation somewhere under the Help Templates Page???

Thank you for your help! Simssa 21:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I think you'll need to give us more information. I can't find your template in your contributions - where is it? Also, what function is this template intended to fulfil? --Cherry blossom tree 21:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cherry, I created my template on our internal wiki. I'm sure I can recreate the problem if you can tell me how to get to this contribution page. This template was created so that others can fill in the blank, like a form. Simssa 14:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 16

Article moved

Hi

An article which was the beginnings of a biography about myself has been moved to "my personal space" ... it now doesn't show up when someone searches on Wikipedia for "Jon Morby"

The article was written by a partisan 3rd party, and was the basis for a much more detailed entry in due course.

I have today come in to add links to Demon Internet, iii, redmail and Redbus - all companies I've been involved in the formation of in the UK, as well as FidoNet of which I was heavily involved in through the UK<->US gateways and the Region 25 (UK) Internet gateway .. however I can't even find the article to add these salient bits onto.

I would be grateful if the Bio could be promoted back into "real space" as it is pertinent, and has been viewed / referenced by several articles elsewhere including newsgroups and I believe at least one UK publication.

Or does this sort of "Bio" contravene all sense of the "rules" for Wikipedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jmorby (talk • contribs) .

Looking over the bio it doesn't seem likely that it would survive being moved back into the article space. I would recommend reading WP:BIO which lists some qualifications for biographies that we have. With regard to the companies, we also have requirements that they should meet before having an article on Wikipedia. You can read those guidelines at WP:CORP. --Hetar 00:44, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia also has a guideline against autobiographies, on the grounds that it is particularly hard to be objective or to establish notability when talking about oneself.--Kwekubo 00:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

sound card

how do I find the sound card on my dell laptop? I can see the music videos but i have no sound. I have listened to music alot but the last week it says i have no sound card. Can you please help me or tell me how I can get help? 01:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. - Mgm|^(talk) 04:47, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Watchlist options

In "my watchlist", it is possible to hide bot edits and hide my edits. Is it possible to hide logged-in users, so that I can check edits by anon IPs for vandalism? Andjam 01:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can indeed hide your own edits and bot edits from the watchlist - just go to your preferences, click on the Watchlist tab and check the appropriate boxes. You might find Lupin's anti-vandal tool useful - it adds a variety of recent changes filters to your toolbox, including one that lists recent changes by IPs. --Kwekubo 02:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But I can't hide logged in editors? With Lupin's tool, all I'm getting (even with all recent changes) is "(1) updating..." and the like. Andjam 03:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it is possible for watchlist, however if you want to fight vandalism in general, considering using Special:Recentchanges instead. You can hide logged-in users there. Also, consider joining Wikipedia:Recent changes patrol to fight against vandalism! --WinHunter ^(talk) 18:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alleged Autobiography

The article Chris Carter (producer/disc jockey) appears autobiographicalish, so I put the tag on it.

The editor returned and removed the tag and denied my assertion. I think it's bad to remove the tag before concensus is reached, but I don't know what the policy is.

Also, though I know how to put that tag on the page, I don't know what step two is. Could a few experts chime in here or on the talk page and guide the process?

Thanks, 68.183.117.74 05:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check out the article's talk page as there seems to be a pretty decent explanation there. If you have any neutrality problems, I would suggest bringing up specific sentences on the talk page and working with others editors to improve them. Also, if you create an account it will facilitate communication for this process, as well as earn you additional respect. --Hetar 05:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are right. The whole thing just looked a little fishy to me, but I am starting to believe the editor is just a big fan of Chris Carter, which is not a problem.

PS: How much additional respect will I earn with an account? Is it Goodfellas type respect? That is the kind I am after.

Thanks, 68.183.117.74 09:09, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll personally hide several illegal weapons, drive badly (watching a helicopter that seems to be unsubtly following me) and come round to your home and cook a pasta sauce for an improbable amount of time, while talking about people getting "whacked" and "made". How does that sound? --Dweller 09:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC) (written from memory, so forgive me if any details are slightly incorrect)[reply]

squatters

how did squatters build their homes?220.237.19.179 06:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Squatting. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that doesn't solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They'll be glad to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Harryboyles 07:13, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

questions

can i answer questions asked my many wikipedia users hima 12:30, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and no. Clarification could be helpful here...EvocativeIntrigue _{TALK | EMAIL} 13:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, are you saying that you want to know how many wikipedia users there are? Nil Einne 13:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was under the impression he was asking if he could answer questions about his many Wikipedia usernames...EvocativeIntrigue _{TALK | EMAIL} 13:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright issue

I noticed that the William H. Gates, Sr. page uses this image (Image:William Gates, Sr.jpg) which is fair use art tagged. However the wording of the copyright notice states:

It is believed that the use of low-resolution images of works of art

for critical commentary on

- the work in question,
- the artistic genre or technique of the work of art or
- the school to which the artist belongs
on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation,

qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Any other uses of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement. See Wikipedia:Fair use for more information.

Also in the Wikipedia Fair Use page it states:

A work of art, not so famous as to be iconic, whose theme happens to be the Spanish Civil War, to illustrate an article on the war. (However, because of its iconic status, it is presumably Fair Use where we have a small image of Picasso's Guernica in the article Bombing of Guernica.)

This makes me think it is wrong for us to use the image in question in the Gates Sr page/article. I don't know enough about US copyright law and fair use policy to say for sure so perhaps someone who knows more could help (just remove it if you think it's not fair use I guess).

Also is there a way to link to a wikipedia image without it showing up in the page other then by linking to the whole page?

Nil Einne 13:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not illegal if you don't get caught. And as for your image linking question, use external link syntax. --Froth 17:36, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is. And try Image:William Gates, Sr.jpg (which is [[:Image:William Gates, Sr.jpg]]). Notinasnaid 18:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

INTERNAL image links

Let's suppose I want to imbed in my article a small image, available from Commons, and that I want that clicking on that image, the user goes to an internal link. For example, image is [[Image:goose.gif]] and link is [[goose]]. How can I do that by Wiki tag, not HTML?--195.212.29.179 14:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe that is possible in Wikipedia. By default clicking on an image takes you to the image description page, but you could include a Wikilink in the image caption - as in this example

-=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 15:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any way to have a link by icon (image) rather than text?--82.57.170.22 20:30, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who can help me fix my entry?

I am new to the system and looked up one of my favorite photographers, Robert Voltaire. I tried to add him but it says the page has errors. I know this system is supposed to be easy to use, but I am new and a little slow to figure it out. Can someone help me fix my entry? Also, if you could explain to me where I went wrong. Thanks so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Innercircle (talk • contribs)

The article is at Robert Voltaire. If he is one of your favourite photographers perhaps you know enough about him to add some facts to the article, and add some Wiki links. Once you have done this, you may feel you can remove the cleanup tag. Don't forget to put the article into a suitable category.

-=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 15:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I took the initiative and did some formatting to the article, as well as adding a category. As far as the cleanup reason goes, there's some discussion at Talk:Robert Voltaire, but it doesn't really explain much. You might want to ask the people who edited the article or the talk page. (Click on the "History" link above the article to see who has edited it.) --Elkman 15:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Telling other editors that I'm in the process of writing an article

Hello,

I looked and I looked but I can't find anything on this.

I'm trying to write an article about Ford LTD Crown Victoria cars. I want to save the page as a stub, and then add more information. But I want to save it as a stub first. The question is, how do I tell other editors I'm still writing the article (as to not have an edit conflict)?

Thank You!

AndreniW 15:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You could put the {{inuse}} tag at the top of the article while you're working on it. Dismas|^(talk) 16:08, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious, but why do you want to save it as a stub first instead of entering as much as possible in one go? - Mgm|^(talk) 18:37, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One possibility would be that the user is unable or unwilling to save the content locally first. Therefore, to avoid the risk of losing the content if the computer dies, the browser dies, the internet connection dies, they screw up and somehow lose it all or whatever, they regularly save it so worst case, they only use their past 10-20 minutes of work rather then their past 1-2 hours Nil Einne 20:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Map of kirov, russia

Hello, how do I get a map of Kirov, Russia? And, how can I find about some things about local culture of this particular area?

It appears there are two Kirov in Russia (Kirov, Kirov Oblast & Kirov, Kaluga Oblast), which one are you looking for? --WinHunter ^(talk) 18:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

edit war intervention please

I'm not sure where to go to get admin intervention in a bit of an edit war..

Maybe the frequenters of the help desk can help with it instead of appealing to an admin

The page Age of the Earth is a very long article on the history of the science community's acceptance of an "old" earth (billions of years). Coverage of "opposing views" such as hinduism, cults, and more mainstream stuff like literal judeo-christianity is linked to via the disambig header (this is non standard already).

Thinking that (especially with such a controversial topic) the "science" of it shouldn't be asseted as what's "true" and should merely be presented as the majority view (as per Neutral vs Scientific Point of View, see WP:NPOV), I marked it with an NPOV tag and requested that the article be rewritten to present the science as only one view, while giving other views fair "significant minority" coverage.

But some of the article writers keep removing the tag, saying that it's a scientific article and that "pseudoscience" has no place in the article. My original point was that it shouldn't be a scientific article! Since it's titled "age of the earth" it should be an article on the body of human knowledge -scientific and unscientific- regarding the age of the earth.

Am I going too far in marking it NPOV? Careful reading of WP:NPOV seems to suggest that the NPOV policy was written specifically to address these type situations...

Can someone direct me to where I can appeal to admin support, or at least help me in my edit war? :)

--Froth 17:33, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You could post at WP:AN/I. - Mgm|^(talk) 18:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also considering following the steps listed in WP:DR --WinHunter ^(talk) 19:01, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Replacing a stub with a redirect.

There is a virtually empty stub for Puerto Pollensa and a slightly more developed stub for Port de Pollença. The former is Castellano, and the latter is Catalan, for exactly the same town. The page Puerto Pollensa should be replaced by a redirect to Port de Pollença. Is this something I can do (if yes, how?), or must one be an administrator? --vibo56^talk 19:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've done it in this case with http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Puerto_Pollensa&diff=58994624&oldid=52731902 this edit]. All you need to do is delete the content of the page and replace it with #REDIRECT [[Port de Pollença]]. --Cherry blossom tree 20:03, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --vibo56^talk 20:12, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AfD

Perhaps this is not the best place for this, but I'm not sure where is (I'm so navigationally challenged! :) - When is a discussion finished on an AfD deletion vote, and what do I do as the initiator of the deletion proposal when this happens? Ben Tibbetts 20:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AfD discussions are closed after 5 days, or later (there is sometimes quite a backlog). As the initiator, nothing is expected of you during the process, the admin that closes the discussion will take care of it. If the result is 'delete', he'll delete the article, if the result is something different, like 'keep', he'll make sure the necessary steps are taken (the AfD tag removed, a link on the talk page, etc.). I think more about this can be found here: WP:AFD. --Joanne B 20:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's exactly what I needed to know. Thank you very much. Ben Tibbetts 20:44, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Problems creating a new page

Hey! I'm new to all of this so I'm sorry if my question sounds basic. I wanted to create some articles that are referred to in one of the articles on the site, but everytime I click on the red link, it asks me if I want to save index.php, which I do, but then I have no idea what to do with that, and I don't understand why it won't just create an empty page for me so that I can add headings myself, just like any other article. Hope this helps in explaining my question. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Headeditor42 (talk • contribs) .

Go to Special:Preferences. In the Editing section untick "Use external editor by default". That should solve the problem.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:17, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Confused about images - local vs. commons

See Image_talk:Reuters-Building-30SC.JPG GhostInTheMachine 23:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Response given on talk page. --Hetar 23:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! I will check back tomorrow. GhostInTheMachine 00:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 17

answers.com IS STEALING YOUR REPORTS

i was looking in google and had already looked in wikipedia and read through your article. I went into a website called www.answers.com please send a message to (email address removed to prevent spam) to tell me you have delt with these people.

Since wikipedia is using GFDL on his contents, any site can have Wikipedia content there. --WinHunter ^(talk) 05:10, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, see Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks and specifically Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks/Abc#Answers.com. NoSeptember 05:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Styling of words, e.g. handmade, hand-made, hand made

This keeps bothering me and I haven't yet come across a style guide or such that addresses the question. Sometimes people use words which 'normally' have a hyphen, or which 'normally' are joined, but rather they split up the word into two parts. It happens quite too often for it to be confusion by just non-native English speakers. Actually all sorts of misusages occur (see [2]) and knowing where the applicable style guide is would be a help. Any pointers? Shenme 05:43, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say this is more of a spelling issue than a style issue. I would just use your preferred dictionary to correct the spellings. My dictionary of choice, Merriam-Webster (American English), lists "handmade" and "in fact" and those are the spellings I would use. I don't think there's any formal policy; I would take "Spell words correctly!" or "Use spellings that occur in the dictionary!" as appropriate. (Of course, this does not apply to switching national varities of English, such as British to American English.) — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As long as you have an on line dictionary to back you up, stomp out grammatically wrong uses as you have shown. And yes, everyone can make mistakes as noticed in the two paragraphs above and mine as well ;) -- That Guy, From That Show! 07:02, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested features

How would one go about requesting features (or extensions) for MediaWiki?

One is adding a count for the number of images in a category on the category, for example Category:Astronomy_images states "There are 0 pages in this section of this category.", but makes no reference to the image below it.

I'd also like to request a feature to have Special:uncategorized pages be seperable by namespace. I want to be able to find uncategorized images as well as other pages.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!. Chris M. 07:29, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ is the place.--Commander Keane 07:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've been told that is the place before, but I don't know how to actually request such a feature on that site. All I see is stuff about bug reports and nothing looks useful for this, if you could elaborate that'd be great, thanks. Chris M. 15:45, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Feature requests and bug reports are handled the same, i.e. just enter your feature request as if it were a bug report. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:29, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how to get e-mails from wikipedia

       Hi!! I'm an ardent follower of WIKIPEDIA,( having the
       username- pupunwiki ). But the problem is :
       I didn't check my mails for a few days & as a result,
       I couldn't respond to the mail sent by -
       [wiki@wikimedia.org] on :Wikipedia e-mail address confirmation.
       I was supposed to open the following link :
       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Confirmemail/c71529f40545dae55c8ffca004af7c31
       - which i didn't , rather couldn't do in time.

             Now , please tell me the procedure that would enable me 
       to get mails from wikipedia & its users in future.
                  Thanks,--Pupunwiki 09:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the top right hand corner -> "my preferences". (See Help:Email confirmation) --WinHunter ^(talk) 13:17, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation

Hi,

I created an article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Sutherland_%28author%29. I want to distinguish it from another entry for a different George Sutherland, but don't think that I have achieved this. Can you tell me how to fix it.

Collywolly 11:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If there are only the two George Sutherland articles, it would be best to go to the George Sutherland page and add :''This article is about the English-born U.S. jurist and political figure. For the Scottish-born Australian writer, see [[George Sutherland (author)]].'' to the top of the page (do not remove the quotation marks as these are italics tags). The reverse of this would also be useful on the author page. If there are more than two George Sutherland articles, it might be worth considering setting up a disambiguation page (let us know if you want instructions on how to do this). Road Wizard 12:29, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How can I make articles on Wikipedia?

How can i create an article on Wikipedia. I have something brand new.

Thanks,

Domo1234 19:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Wikipedia:Your first article, it walks you through the stuff you need to know/steps to take. --Hetar 19:32, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Box At Bottom

I see on many articles a box at the bottom of the article with links to different articles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digimon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopet

Those are two examples. I want to create one for an article to add links to the character articles of that show, but I don't know how to make one. I have gone to other pages and clicked Edit so that I could copy the code for the box so that I could paste it in the other article and change the text and links inside it, but the code for it is missing.

So I have two questions.

How do you make those boxes? How come you can't edit them?

Sorry if I was confusing, but I have never been very good at explaining, and it doesn't help that I don't know the name of that box. :(

Those boxes are what you call templates. For example, you can edit the box displayed in the Neopet article by going to Template:Viacom. To make your own template, just type in Template:TEMPLATENAME in the search box on the left-hand side of your screen and then hit go. Now you can create the article. To include it on the pages you want, simply add its name inbetween curly brackets: {{ TestName }}. More info at Help:Template. --Hetar 22:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to know which templates consists some page, click on the 'edit' on this page. Used templates are always listed at the bottom on that page. Jacek Kendysz 22:27, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 18

Images

I have another question. How do you add images to articles? I checked the URL of images on articles, and it said upload.wikipedia. When I tried to put an image from another site in it, nothing appeared. So I have three questions.

How do you add images to the article (not the code, but how do make the image actually appear)? Can images from other sites not be used, or does it just not work for me? What is upload.wiki, and can anyone add images to it?

Thank you. Superneoking 00:10, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, you should not use images from other websites. Normally this violates both our policies as well as multiple legal restrictions. If the image in question has been released under a free license or you think it qualifies for a fair use exception then you will need to upload it. Once the image has been uploaded it can be included in the article by using the following code [[Image:IMAGENAME.JPG]]. You can find more information at Images and Media Help. --Hetar 02:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question of notability

I heard an ensemble on Prairie Home Companion tonight, which was their second appearance on the show at least, that doesn't have an article. I looked over the notability requirements for music acts and they don't meet a single one that I know of. Although, they've been together since 1900 which I think is a rather long time and therefore notable. Also, their second CD will be coming out later this year. So, does anyone else think that this group's article would survive? Dismas|^(talk) 00:57, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any group that's been together for 106 years isn't just notable, but worthy of serious scientific examination. --Dweller 01:04, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They're not the original members of course... :-) Although, two of the members have been with the group for more than 60 years. Dismas|^(talk) 01:23, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you let us know the name of this group and if possible a link to an online source that discusses them? Thanks. Road Wizard 01:29, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They are the Milwaukee Mandolin Orchestra. Here'stheir write up at the Classical Mandolin Society page. And according to this they are the "only mandolin group in America in continuous existence since the turn of the century". That's just after a quick google search. Dismas|^(talk) 01:41, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MUSIC is designed to deal with garage and myspace bands. 100 year old Mandolin bands are a bit outside the area it covers.Geni 03:00, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I went ahead and created it anyway. The fact that they've been around for 100+ years is notable enough for me. Dismas|^(talk) 05:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

duplicated user archive

This is the first time I try to tide up my talk pages creating archives. It seems that accidentally I created a useless archive [3]. Is there a way to completely remove it from Wikipedia to avoid future confusion? —Cesar Tort 02:00, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, just tag it with {{db|reason}} or {{db-owner}}. --Hetar 02:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Concentration corrections

Hi, My name is <name removed>, producer of NBC's Concentration for 14 and a half years. I have several suggestions, corrections and additions that should be included. How do I submit them? My e-mail address:<email address removed>. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 152.163.100.11 (talk • contribs) 02:43, 18 June 2006.

Just a comment, I don't believe an NBC producer would be using an AOL address. --Crossmr 02:55, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(After edit conflict) Hi. Anyone can edit an article. When you are looking at the article, simply click "edit this page" at the top and you can make corrections and additions to the article. You might want to look at a few of our core polices first and at the tutorial so you have a better grasp of wiki markup and other issues. --Fuhghettaboutit 03:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the comment above mine, I have no idea why you would think so. I know many professionals who use aol email addresses. I would also point you to WP:BITE.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware of WP:BITE and I'm not biting by pointing out the obviousness in the fact that someone introducing themselves in a professional capacity of an organization would provide an e-mail like an AOL address. It would be like the President of Harvard giving you his hotmail address to contact him about school business. --Crossmr 03:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Enough. This is a debate that can go nowhere and the wrong place for it.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Crossmr, Concentration (game show) was produced from 1958 to 1973. It would be not at all surprising if a producer from the show had retired or moved to a position with another broadcasting corporation in the intervening three decades. In either case, using a personal email address would be quite reasonable. Please be civil and don't bite the new editors – particularly not those who have specialized expertise which they have made a good-faith offer to share – by posting implied criticisms without doing your research first. This is the Help Desk—we try to be helpful rather than judgemental. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 05:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking edits in my watchlist

Is there a way to block or ignore edits by bots from showing up in my watchlist? A recent CfD has been filling up my watchlist for the last hour or so by the bot that is removing the deleted cats. Dismas|^(talk) 03:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know you're going to kick yourself. When you are in your watchlist, displayed prominently right above the namespace field there is a checkbox with the legend "Hide bot edits".--Fuhghettaboutit 03:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kicking has commenced... Dismas|^(talk) 04:14, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To permanently hide bot edits, go to your Special:Preferences, the Watchlist tab, and tick "Hide bot edits from the watchlist".--Commander Keane 03:08, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, C.K. I should have known to check there... Dismas|^(talk) 04:14, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Who is the author, year and publisher of Wikipedia?

See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Dismas|^(talk) 05:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Impossible to find

I am from the Dutch Wikipedia and I am looking here to find out how to list an article for deletion. I worked through several policy pages but cannot find anything. Please can somebody list eiland for deletion. This is total nonsence. It says there are living 170.000 persons. No such big town exists of this name. The user may be blocked.

Please make a small addition about this procedure on your Help page for foreigners. On the FAQ I also could find nothing. Known to you all, but not to somebody outside your community.

Fyi: I will look on NL wikipedia if we did a better job on this, and will change things if necessary ;-). Ellywa 06:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Deletion process for details on how to list an article for deletion. I will add an afd tag to it. --E ivind ^t ^@^c 07:08, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I will keep your comment for future reference. Ellywa 08:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try the tutorial for basic help, which, as far as I can remember, includes details of how to recommend articles for deletion. EvocativeIntrigue _{TALK | EMAIL} 13:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

stp motor

we want to purches Red Jacket STP —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.54.194.11 (talk • contribs) 09:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. You'll probably have better luck contacting the company who makes the products you're looking for. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 09:25, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PARAGLIDING

I am looking for a discussion group on the web for paragliding questions and answers ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.146.252.26 (talk • contribs) 09:29, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. Tangot a ngo 09:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Our paragliding articles had some nice external links last time I checked. If you're Dutch, try the E-lijn forums. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:54, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Names of babies

I would like to know the names of babies of following: 1.Pigeon 2.Grasshopper 3.Butterfly 4.Termite 5.Crow 6.Sparrow 7.Cockroach 8.Housefly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.138.64.176 (talk • contribs) 09:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. Tangot a ngo 09:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help Please from Bud Whiteye

I authored an environmental article titled, Sarnia: A Canadian Community Under Seige (I know "seige" is spelled wrong, but that is how it went) under my name; Bud Whiteye. I also registered under Bud Whiteye, AND you sent me a confirmation line to "click on" at my email address trbw@kent.net so I could know I am registered, What happened to my registration and what happened to my article?

I tried to re-register, but your instructions said "Bud Whiteye" was already in use, and left me no instructions on what to do. I'm the only Bud Whiteye in the world, so the instructions that say "Bud Whiteye" is in use is me.

Your help would be verily appreciated.

Bud Whiteye

As to the location of your article, I think it was moved by someone else. The new location is here. For your registered name, you need to login by clicking the link in the top right hand corner of the website that says "create an account/sign in." Then type in "Bud Whiteye" (the name of your account), and the password you entered when first registering.--SomeStranger^(t|c) 13:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks SomeStranger, I will proceed there forthwith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lenni lenape (talk • contribs)

variation

what is the meaning of variation?124.106.52.28 13:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In what context? You can try wiktionary:variation or Variation to find out. Please post any further questions of this type to the reference desk. This page is for questions about Wikipedia. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:55, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I submit an Article or topic?

Hello,

I am new to the site. I would like to submit an artical on the benefits of equine horse massagers with a link. Please advise.

Shawn

Hi Shawn. Welcome to Wikipedia. In answer to your question, please See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. Please note that a general article on horse massaging may be appropriate (I am not familiar with the subject) but an article promoting a specific horse massaging product is probably not, as articles used for advertizing purposes are discouraged. I have posted some useful links on your talk page.--Fuhghettaboutit 15:09, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Info search when no article available

How do i get info on somthing that does not have an article writen about it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.199.117.10 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 18 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I guess in that case you may have to look for alternate source of information. (E.g. Google) --WinHunter ^(talk) 18:07, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or the 1911 Britannica Computerjoe 's talk 20:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or try the Wikipedia:Reference desk. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 21:56, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User Pages

There don't seem to be any clear instructions on how to create and edit one's userpage. I've had to rely on the kindness of a few Wikipedians to get as far as I have. What I'd like to do now is add a pic of myself. Yet wherever I look, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of guidance as to how to edit userpages.

I obviously have a pic in mind in .jpg format.

Could anyone please explain to me in simple steps how to add that pic to my userpage?

Many thanks,

Loomis 19:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Goto Special:Upload (the Upload file link on the left), upload your picture. Then link it in your userpage (e.g. [[Image:example.jpg|100px]] ->

)

--WinHunter ^(talk) 19:24, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User pages are just like any other page as far as editing goes. Wikipedia:Image tutorial and WP:USER may give you some guidance. Dismas|^(talk) 00:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to check out WP:UPH --GeorgeMoney ^T·C 04:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Legal question about media and naming of criminal suspects

In this discussion -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2006_Toronto_terrorism_case#.22who_cannot_be_named.22

We are trying to work out if American media law takes precendence over that of canada in regards to the naming of subjects in criminal investigations. I'm *very* hazy about this but I *think* that in an ongoing effect to avoid american-bias we default to the norms of the country the offense happened in unless there is a good reason? Confused! Many thanks for any help on this matter. --Charlesknight 21:08, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't really a helpdesk question - you could ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous, or you could try exploring Portal:Law to find some relevant expertise. It looks from the talk page as if a bit more discussion should sort out the dispute - if not, then reading the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution procedure is a good idea. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 21:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As I understand it, Wikipedia is hosted in Florida, so the only applicable law is American (US) law, and specifically Florida Law. Canadian law does not affect Wikimedia as hosts of the content. Individual contributors may also be ruled by the laws of the country from which they are contributing. --Cherry blossom tree 21:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

but this isn't a discussion of the legality of the article, it's a discussion about that law as it applies to the subject of an article - the dispute is about accurate wording, not whether we can legitimately release information. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 21:54, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know the discussion isn't about the legal situation, but the question was. --Cherry blossom tree 22:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever you put into an article has to be backed up by reliable and accesible sources. If suspects' full names aren't publicly available, you can't provide sources and thus not put it in the article. If you have sources, you can as long as it is allowed by Florida or US law. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

C0FFEE or AliceBlue

Is it just me, or are all the Wikipedia pages a shade of alice blue? Cernen Xanthine Katrena 23:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, article pages are off-blue, talk pages are yellow. ~Kylu (u|t) 23:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 19

Promoting Independent Wikis

Is there a definitive place within Wikipedia or Wikimedia to promote an independent wiki; preferably some place that actually has a decent amount of visibility to it? Also, is there a policy guiding how and where one can promote an independent wiki throughout the rest of Wikipedia and Wikimedia? HamillianActor 00:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. Promoting wikis outside those hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation is not one of our goals, so there's no place to do so. Many consider promotion of any site within Wikipedia vandalism. So I recommend you don't do it. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

help

how can i patrol recent edits? unsigned by User:Patbaseball2221

You can look at the countervandalism unit and recent changes patrol pages, they will get you pointed in the right direction. --Pilot|guy 01:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Message left one users Talk page. (because the edit buttons dissapeared in this page!) skorpion 03:44, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In case you were talking about the Mediawiki feature Patrolled edits, it is currently disabled for EN-Wikipedia. If you don't know what I'm talking about then don't worry about it :-).--Commander Keane 04:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Usernames in red?

What is the significance of usernames in red, please? I did try to check the FAQ (in several places), but couldn't find the answer. Thanks. Betterthanyouare 02:00, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A red-link is simply a link to a page that dosen't exist, for example, there is no page called 'Sqwimf". So red-linked usernames are shown when a user has not yet created a userpage. Prodego ^talk 02:06, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Betterthanyouare 02:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how to create a listing

how to create a listing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gener (talk • contribs)

If by listing you mean an article, taking a look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Help:Starting a new page. If you mean something else, please clarify. -- Natalya 04:00, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

password

sorry, i know the answer must be obvious. however, i signed in (attempted) with my password, which was not recognised, so was sent a new one. i want to change this to one i will remember, but cannot see on the sign-in page where this can be done. advice gratefully received. many thanks. every good wish, dr jocelynne a. scutt

Log in using your new password. Once logged in you can go to "my preferences" (located at the top of the page) or simply click on Special:Preferences here. In the preferences there is a section "Change password".--Commander Keane 05:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IP signing with non-existent usernames

I discovered a talk page where an IP had signed with a non-existent userpage, so its not like they were trying to impersonate someone. I checked the username, no user page, no talk page, no contribs. Should I remove the signature and tag an unsigned on it with the correct info? --Crossmr 04:44, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's a big deal (without looking at the specific case) but if you like you could add the correct signature after the incorrect one. I avoid changing other people's comments.--Commander Keane 05:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unless it is impersonating / vote-stacking attempt then it probably isn't a great deal. (In those situations, changing the signature and explain it in edit summary probably is a good idea) Otherwise it may just be an anonymous user trying to use some sort of name to identify him/her, not too big deal since no harm is done. --WinHunter ^(talk) 05:42, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still, if they want to use that name more often than just the one time, I recommend you ask them to register an account (and point them to the benefits). - Mgm|^(talk) 07:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spam filter

I came across a spam filter while editing Chrononhotonthologos (see talk for an explanation of what I'm trying to do -- it's not my site, and I'm not a spammer.) It appears the external site referenced there is part of a spam filter somehow, though I don't understand why. meta:Spam blacklist doesn't seem to contain this site. I looked around but couldn't find anyplace to discuss this problem. Thanks, Cleduc 06:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is likely because the link contains "logo & .com" (In spam filter: (?<![\./])logos\.com). You should probably report this to m:Talk:Spam blacklist#Proposed removals --WinHunter ^(talk) 06:31, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Roger, wilco -- thanks! Cleduc 06:42, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can I become an editor / Do you need my skills ?

Hi there. I've been browsing the BDSM-part of the Wikipedia, and have found a lot of interesting information. Now, I've got a little knowledge myself, wich I'd like to share, eventually accompanied by my own photos, where applicable.

If this seems interesting to you, please take a look at my homepage at http://www.sadomechanix.dk - (also featured in english).

Yours faithfully

Lars Bech Nygaard webmaster

Wikipedia welcomes anyone to edit, including anonymous users! Please feel free to start editing anytime. --WinHunter ^(talk) 07:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check out the Wikipedia:Tutorial for information on how to get going. —WAvegetarian•(talk) 07:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I creat a new article? I Have an account

See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article.

And when on discussion pages, it's a good idea to sign off with ~~~~, to get a result like this: Confusing Manifestation 09:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Visibility of policies/guidelines

I have been using Wikipedia for a long time but every day, it seems like, I discover a new policy that I have never heard of. Today I discovered the guideline about avoiding trivia, which I was about to suggest. The search on Wikipedia is necessarily limited, to save system resources, but how else can I search for policies? The lists of policies are endless and Wikipedia has such an unfathomable amount of information on it that searching yields no desirable results. --Stellis 08:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:List of policies, Wikipedia:List of guidelines and Category:Wikipedia proposals. --E ivind ^t ^@^c 09:12, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also see Category:Wikipedia official policy. Confusing Manifestation 09:15, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another trick you can use is to limit your search to only return results from a certain namespace (such as, in your case, Wikipedia:). To do this, search for the term you're looking for (type it into the search box and click "Search"), then scroll to the bottom, where you can search for a term only in certain namespaces. — QuantumEleven 09:44, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I was lost until I found these shortcuts. It may not be intended as a directory, but it is pretty complete. Prodego ^talk 15:40, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to mark a suspected copyright violation

I think that Image:Future_history_01.jpg is still under copyright, and I don't think it qualifies as fair use. I checked with the uploader and they don't have a reason to believe it's out of copyright.

I looked at the list of copyright-related image tags, and I think imagevio is what I need. However, it appears that that tag is used to replace the image, whereas what I'd like to just add a tag that flags it for deletion. Do I just delete the image and put in imagevio, or is there a way that leaves the image in place till a decision is made by an admin? Thanks. Mike Christie 12:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Put imagevio in the image description page and don't delete it until a decision is made. If you have any troubles, look at how it's done in some of the images at WP:CP. Simple enough, don't you think ;) fetofs ^Hello! 13:01, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks -- I added imagevio; part of what bothered me about using that template was that it wants a URL, which is not relevant in this case. I just left it blank and added a reason on the copyright problems page. Thanks for the help. Mike Christie 13:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maths symbols etc

Hi,

I am constructing an article in MS Office Word 2003 with the help of MathType 5.5. The article contains MS Word tables and various MathType symbol constructions both within cells of the tables and in the body of the text. I am completely new to Wiki and haven't managed to locate information within Wiki on how to upload the kind of document I have in mind. Please advise me on what to do.

I should be grateful if you could respond to "mytalk".

EpiGuru 14:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's possible to upload an MS Word document to Wikipedia. Perhaps there is a program that can make the conversion, but I haven't heard of one. Wikipedia articles (or, for that matter, pages in any site based on MediaWiki - the engine behind Wikipedia and similar sites) should be written in Wiki markup. The pages Wikipedia:How to edit an article and Help:Formula provide some good information about it. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 15:10, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

updating

On one of my computers, Wikipedia is not "updating" (i.e. the daily wikipedia entry is not there, but the daily entry from a year ago is there every day. What is going on there?

JIB

Probably it's a cached copy. Trying adding "?action=purge" or "&action=purge" to the end of the url to purge the cache of your browser. --WinHunter ^(talk) 14:54, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Style question: capitalization of the names of French-language organizations

I am working on a translation of the article fr:Conseil national de la Résistance, an umbrella organization formed in 1943 to coordinate the different French resistance movements. What should the title of the article be in the English Wikipedia? The four possibilities are:

Conseil national de la Résistance
Conseil National de la Résistance
National Council of the Resistance
National Resistance Council

In my view, it should be either (1) or (2) but I'm not sure which one. As for (3) and (4), both have been used in other English Wikipedia articles [4] but in general the organization seems to be known in English by its French name. Given the nature of the organization, I doubt that it ever adopted an official English-language version of its name.

In French, initial caps are not routinely used in titles after the first word, so in French the organization is called Conseil national de la Résistance, but I'm wondering if in the English Wikipedia we should nevertheless refer to the organization as Conseil National de la Résistance. (But if so, why not Conseil National De La Résistance?)

I have looked at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters) and Wikipedia:Naming conventions but did not see a clear answer to this question. Before I actually create the article, I would like some guidance on whether to capitalize the N or not. --Mathew5000 16:02, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say 2, and redirect from the other pages. If you can remember, send me a link when you're done- I wouldn't mind reading it! EvocativeIntrigue _{TALK | EMAIL} 16:59, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. For some reason 2 does seem most natural, but it's also the most illogical. If we refer to the organization by its French-language name, shouldn't we use French-language capitalization rules, just as if it were a film or a book (e.g. Au revoir, les enfants)? For organizations, I've seen both capitalization styles used for the titles of English-wiki articles on French organizations, e.g. Section française de l'Internationale ouvrière and Confédération Française Démocratique du Travail. --Mathew5000 17:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I finished my (very rough) translation: Conseil National de la Résistance.--Mathew5000 19:30, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to write a article about an organization

Hi, I would like to add an article about an organization(TANA) to WIKI?

We don't allow advertising on this encyclopedia. Sorry. --Pilot|guy 17:10, 19 June 2006 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SunilKoganti (talk • contribs) .[reply]

Would that be this TANA or another TANA? The article's subject must be notable to stand chance of inclusion.

Please don't forget to sign your post using ~~~~!

(Informed user of reply on help desk)

EvocativeIntrigue _{TALK | EMAIL} 17:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even if the organization is not notable enough to merit its own article, it could be mentioned in the article Telugu people. For how to edit that article, see WP:EDIT.--Mathew5000 19:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Flickr question

There is an image on somebody's Flickr account that I want to add to Wikipedia (the commons) and an article. (Actually, there are probably a lot of pictures on Flickr I'd like to add so this applies to many images.) The image has the following license: CC Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0 so it says I'm free to copy, distribute, display, and perform the work. So, am I correct in saying that all I need to do it upload the picture to the commons and include in the comments box the license used, the person's Flickr ID and the URL to the image? I know there is a Wiki program that does this but I don't want to have to mess around with getting access to it and everything.--NMajdan•talk 18:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't fully understand what you quote as the license, but Wikipedia cannot accept any photo released under a "no commercial use" license. Notinasnaid 18:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't aware Wikipedia was commercial use. Here is the license used.--NMajdan•talk 18:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind. Found the link. Here for those interested. That sucks.--NMajdan•talk 18:58, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, let me pose another question. If the photo on Flickr does have a noncommercial license (such as this one), then is my statement in my original post correct?--NMajdan•talk 19:03, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 (as in {{cc-by-2.0}})is an image license accepted by Wikipedia. --WinHunter ^(talk) 19:15, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 allows commercial use. --WinHunter ^(talk) 19:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So then my statement about including the license, the flickr user's id, and a link to the image in the upload summary is correct.--NMajdan•talk 19:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the license is this one then yes, also please select cc-by-2.0 from the dropdown list of licenses when you upload the image. --WinHunter ^(talk) 19:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you meant to say "If the photo on Flickr does not have a noncommercial license" then your original statement was correct. You may also want to let the Flickr user know but that isnt a requirement. --Cherry blossom tree 20:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 20

The Father of Hollywood, HJ Whitley

Hobart Johnston Whitley named and developed the area today known as Hollywood, California. HJ is what Hobart Johnston Whitley was called by, and was well known by the locals as a developer and mover and shaker of Los Angeles. HJ was instrumental in motivating the movie industry to move to his town of Hollywood. He formed several groups of businessmen which benefited by his expertise in developing the modern cities of his time. He formed a group of local business men to purchase the Van Nuys Lankershim lands of the San Fernando Valley. This was his move to get the land annexed to the City of Los Angeles for the water needed to sustain the big valley development he was about to accomplish. HJ is well known the Western United States history as well. Hobart was a good friend of Theodore Roosevelt and was on the board of directors of for the Chicago Rock Island Railroad in late 1800. He developed over 140 towns in the West. HJ was at the Oklahoma run and persuaded the U.S. Congress in Washington to allow Guthrie to be capitol of the new state. In the early 1900 Los Angeles and Southern California history, HJ is being brought to light for his great contributions to the cities that he was apart of. HJ, his family and friends has many unpublished memoirs and are being brought to the public in the near future by the book, The Father of Hollywood by his great granddaughter, Gaelyn Whitley Keith. http://www.thefatherofhollywood.com/

Sub-category question

Normally, when a catagory (ex. Category:Selected anniversaries) is part of another category (Category:Wikipedia featured content), it will appear on the second category's list of Subcategories.

However, this is not true of Category:Wikipedia featured desktop backgrounds under Category:Wikipedia featured pictures. Here, "desktop backgrounds" was put in "featured pictures", but doesn't show up in its list of subcategories.

Why is this so? --kenb215 01:27, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's there, just not on the first (or second) page or 200 entries in the category. That's why the text immediately above the subcategories says "more may be shown on subsequent pages". -- Rick Block (talk) 02:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alphabetized categories?

When adding categories to a page, is it standard for them to be listed alphabetically (for example: British film actors | Living people | Year of birth missing), or is that just some users' preference, or are somewhat-related categories supposed to be grouped together? Maybe a useless question, but I've been wondering about it. -- Flummery 04:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From what I have seen alphabetizing is the perference, it helps drastically with orgnaization. Yanksox ^(talk) 04:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The default is that category are listed alphabetically, though parameters entered in the category links can change the list method e.g. [[Category:Wkipedia:Help desk|2000]] would cause the article to list as if "2000" is the article name, then it is being sorted alphabatically using those entered parameters. --WinHunter ^(talk) 04:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, Yanksox and WinHunter. Flummery 04:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Finding an article from the "On This Day..." box.

On Mon. June, 19, yesterday, in the box "On This Day...", there was a citation about the first baseball game to use modern rules being played in 1846. I came back to re-read the article, but the section had been updated. I looked in the archive section, which led me to a page titled "History of baseball in the United States." This is not the same article that was linked there on the 19th. I was wondering if anybody could tell me what that page was so I may finish reading it. James B.

Possibly New York Knickerbockers. You can also get info on that game from a Google search [5].--Mathew5000 06:36, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

~~:Click on the archive link in the "On This Day" box, which gives this link. --WinHunter ^(talk) 06:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)~~[reply]

Featured articles – RSS2

Hello. Probably this is the wrong place to suggest something like this, but I have put up a Featured Articles RSS @ http://lagring.net/wikipedia.rss and wondered if that is something that could be cool to have at the front page. Not my RSS feed but that at the same time someone creates the featured article, the RSS also gets created. There should also have been a RSS for QOTD, news and featured picture.

We already have some RSS feeds at WP:RSS. And as far as I know correctly working RSS feeds update automatically when a new feature article is posted. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Ai ai ai ai ai! But how come it isn't on the frontpage?

<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 2.0" href="http://helgo.net/simon/wikipedia/fa.xml" />

And come on, it doesn't seem like the most serious page! I'm thinking more of en.wikipedia.org/featured.xml

Where did helgo.net come from? I don't see it listed anywhere. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is due to some technique difficulties. Since featured articles are stored in a day by day format (as opposed to changes in a single page), local rss feed doesn't work. --WinHunter ^(talk) 12:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Btw this helgo xml is created by one of the Wikipedia user, User:Skagedal/Fafafa, using a python program which is run daily. --WinHunter ^(talk) 12:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comfirmation

I've tried to confirm my email, but it keeps showing me this message:

Confirm E-mail address

Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired.

But I just got the code 5 mins ago. What's the problem? Thank you. -- Kahang 13:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 :I think this is due to some technique difficulties. Since featured articles are stored in a day by day format (as opposed to changes in a single page), local rss feed doesn't work. --[[User:Winhunter|WinHunter]] <sup>([[User talk:Winhunter|talk]])</sup> 12:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 :Btw this helgo xml is created by one of the Wikipedia user, [[User:Skagedal/Fafafa]], using a python program which is run daily. --[[User:Winhunter|WinHunter]] <sup>([[User talk:Winhunter|talk]])</sup> 12:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
+== Comfirmation ==
+I've tried to confirm my email, but it keeps showing me this message:
+:Confirm E-mail address
+:Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired.
+But I just got the code 5 mins ago. What's the problem? Thank you. -- [[User:Ka hang|Kahang]] 13:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

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