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Swinomish people → Swinomish – target is redirect to current title, first created as a two-line dab with one item a redlink by 64.40.60.5 on Sept 24 2003 then converted to redirect to "Swinomish (tribe)" by Agent86 on Jan 3 2007, citing "no article ever created on the river and does not seem to be of any significance that an article will be made anytime soon)". Not that Swinomish River will never exist, but as with many other cases, rivers named for a people are rarely, if ever, more of a primarytopic than their namesake. Then moved by Kwami to "Swinomish tribe" on Dec 13 2010, then moved by myself to current title Jan 6 2011 (I did not have the option of moving it to Swinomish because of the existing redirect. As with others of this kind WP:UNDAB should be observed. Skookum1 (talk) 06:47, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just to note, there is no Swinomish River. There is a Swinomish Channel, at the page. Pfly (talk) 07:30, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, WP:UNDAB applies anyway re "FOO whatever" titles not being as primary as "FOO".Skookum1 (talk) 07:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid WP:UNDAB applies to nothing and probably should be moved to an individual user sandbox. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:16, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It articulates "precision" and "conciseness" on CRITERIA and IMO its details on that should be integrated into WP:CRITERIA.Skookum1 (talk) 11:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose until the issue is addressed properly. These should be discussed at a centralized location.

There was a discussion once on whether the ethnicity should have precedence for the name, and it was decided it shouldn't. That could be revisited. But it really should be one discussion on the principle, not thousands of separate discussions at every ethnicity in the world over whether it should be at "X", "Xs", or "X people". — kwami (talk) 12:23, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::I'm afraid [[WP:UNDAB]] applies to nothing and probably should be moved to an individual user sandbox. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 10:16, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 ::::It articulates "precision" and "conciseness" on CRITERIA and IMO its details on that should be integrated into [[WP:CRITERIA]].[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 11:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose''' until the issue is addressed properly.  These should be discussed at a centralized location.
+:There was a discussion once on whether the ethnicity should have precedence for the name, and it was decided it shouldn't.  That could be revisited.  But it really should be one discussion on the principle, not thousands of separate discussions at every ethnicity in the world over whether it should be at "X", "Xs", or "X people".  — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 12:23, 20 March 2014 (UTC)