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The result was keep. Tawker (talk) 07:26, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Maura Healey

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Politician who has never held elected office and has not received significant coverage outside of a single event (the 2014 election for Massachusetts Attorney General). Hirolovesswords (talk) 23:44, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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keep - Maura Healey also received significant media coverage prior to the 2014 campaign because she led the challenge to the Federal Defense of Marriage Act here are links to her previous media coverage on reputable news outlets. I am the articles creator and have provided a number of these articles as sources on the page. (DOMA)[1] [2][3] [4] [5] Maura Healey also led the fought for legislation to support access to reproductive healthcare through the 2007 Buffer Zone Law and received substantial media coverage from that.[6] [7] [8] These sources are proof of significant media coverage prior to the 2014 election for Attorney General. Zgreenblatt (talk) 19:52, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Press releases from the office the subject works for or from her campaign do not indicate notability. Neither does the Associated Press article [9], which is largely based on a press release from Healey [10]). The news articles either mention the subject only in passing or in the context of one event (the campaign). Also, op-eds written by the subject do not indicate notability. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 20:38, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Associated Press only reports on factual, non-bias news. I do not see why it would not be a legitimate source. If these sources are deleted the page should still be factual considering she has news written about her dating back to 1992. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zgreenblatt (talk • contribs) 16:52, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also Deborah Goldberg who is running for Massachusetts treasurer has a page but has never held state office before, solely a selectman for Brookline, MA. [11] Joseph Avellone has a page and is a current candidate for Governor of Massachusetts but has yet to be elected. [12]. Maura has participated in numerous national legislative movements and has much press covering this and officially government documents citing her participation. She is more relevant now because of her candidacy but not not known for her candidacy. Maura Healey is credited with being the primary person behind the Attorney General's challenge to the Federal Defense of Marriage Act. She also ran 5 bureaus in the Attorney General office before her resignation. This can be found in multiple news outlets but is all included in this Boston Globe article. [13] If however, there is anything I can do to further prove her notability or improve the page please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zgreenblatt (talk • contribs) 17:20, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

keep. I have carefully read the sources and they seem to be legitimate even if information is from a press release. It was still reported in US national news outlet. I do not think that such an individual would run for such an important position if she was an unknown or had no support. User talk:BenoitHoog 15:00 04 April 2014 (GTM+1) — Preceding undated comment added 13:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Tawker (talk) 06:55, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Morellato Group

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Fails WP:CORP JMHamo (talk) 22:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Keep and suggest to withdraw, nominated for deletion a few hours after creation, clearly notable company. There is a whole book about the history of the company, Il lusso pretàporter. Morellato & Sector orologi, gioielli e idee vincenti by Roberta Paolini, Marsilio, 2008. Originally a leading manufacturer of watch straps[14][15], as of 1995 five million pieces sold every year,[16] starting from 2005 successfully expanded its production in jewelery[17] and watches (placed 17° in worldwide sales of watches as of 2013[18]). Further examples of significant coverage: [19], [20], [21]. Cavarrone 06:11, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as above, and also found sources like this one from Google Books: Whole section devoted to history of Morellato (in Italian) here - I checked and it doesn't appear to be a reprint of the Italian Wiki. Also a biographical article on the founder with company info here. Mabalu (talk) 09:27, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and I am for speedy deletion of tag by JMHamo for 100 obvious reasons!

1reason: Morellato Group is parent of Sector No Limits and Sector's article is not tagged!

2reason: Morellato Group is commercially bigger than Sector!

3reason: Morellato Group's article is just a stub!

4reason: Morellato Group's subsidiaries are all important brands ready for related articles!

I will continue with other obvious reasons next time.--Pagoprima (talk) 11:07, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I added sources found by Cavarrone and Mabalu: now I ask immediate end of this discussion and removal of absurd tag by a user who does not know the matter. My time is valid for improve articles--Puccetto (talk) 12:09, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. No prejudice against the creation of a redirect. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:06, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Indispensable Collection

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Only notable mention is Michael's own website here. No significant coverage anywhere on the web that passes WP:NALBUMS or more generally WP:GNG. Just a track listing. Should be merged to artist page/discography. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 22:22, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/Redirect to Michael Jackson albums discography or Delete per WP:GNG and WP:NALBUMS. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 22:36, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as a non-notable (digital) boxset. — Status (talk · contribs) 21:43, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete since it fails both WP:NALBUMS and WP:GNG. —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 06:07, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/Redirect to Michael Jackson albums discography it is a boxset, but not so important. Parabola1999 (talk) 12:09, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Tawker (talk) 06:56, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Buccellati

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Speedy Keep and suggest to withdraw, nominated for deletion a few hours after creation, clearly notable, historical brand since 1750s."Buccellati made jewelry for the royal families of Italy, Spain and Egypt, as well as Pope Pius XI and Pope Pius XII, among others" (from Heritage Fine Jewelry & Timepieces by Jill Burgum, Katie Pierce Johnston and James L. Halperin). The same sources already included in the article suggest some notability. There are several books about the history of the manufacturer: Sylvia Luzzatto, Buccellati. arte senza tempo, 5 Continents Editions, 2008; Martina Corgnati, Mario Buccellati: Prince of Goldsmiths, Rizzoli International Publications, Incorporated, 1999; Vincent-Emmanuel Ragot, Buccellati, Perseus Distribution Services, 2003. More from Google Books: M. Mosco, Art of jewelry and artists' jewels in the 20th century, Giunti, 2001, pp. 20-21 and 168-179. M. Amari, I musei delle aziende, FrancoAngeli, 2001, pp. 239-242. A. Mazzuca, I numeri uno del made in Italy, Baldini Castoldi Dalai, 2005, pp. 66-67. A. Testa, M. Garbuglia, Profilo Italia: Un Certo Stile Made in Italy, Berenice, 1990, pp. 150-153. M. Di Lorenzo, "Da Roma a New York l'impero del Principe dei gioiellieri", in Il Parlamento italiano, VII (1959), n. 3-4, pp. 42 ss.; R. Bossaglia, "I gioielli di Gabriele D'Annunzio", in Bolaffi Arte, November 1977, n. 74, suppl., pp. 40-47. I assume that's enough for a claim of notability. Cavarrone 06:46, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and I am for speedy deletion of tag by JMHamo for 100 obvious reasons!

1reason: Buccellati is historical and famous brand in all the world!

2reason: Buccellati is commercially bigger than Sector No Limits and Sector's article is not tagged!

3reason: Buccellati's article is just a stub!

4reason: Buccellati's founders are important artists ready for related articles!

I will continue with other obvious reasons next time.--Pagoprima (talk) 11:20, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I added sources found by Cavarrone and now I ask immediate end of this discussion and removal of absurd tag by a user who does not know the matter. My time is valid for improve articles--Puccetto (talk) 12:04, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I would rather keep it because following their website they have shops in expensive places such as Aspen, Beverly Hills, Mayfair in London, Paris, Moscow, etc. Besides, Forbes wrote an articles about them. [22] User talk:BenoitHoog 15:29 03 April 2014 (GMT+1) — Preceding undated comment added 13:30, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tawker (talk) 18:53, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Ultimate Fan Extras Collection

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One of many collections released posthumously. Quick search of good reveals only two notable mentions one from PR News Wire which only confirms its release and one from Rollingstone magazine mentioning things about individual tracks. This article is nothing more than a track listing and thus not notable per WP:NMUSIC or more generally per WP:GNG → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 22:18, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and Salt per WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 05:37, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tawker (talk) 06:58, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Craig svonkin

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Doesn't appear to meet notability guidelines generally and for academics specifically. Assumed good faith by not requesting speedy deletion, but the article's creator appears to be interested primarily in maintaining the entry so as to add nonsense. JNW (talk) 19:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, GS h-index of 2, fails WP:PROF. Jinkinson talk to me 20:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as above. This is no exception to the rule that Assistant Professors are rarely notable. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:45, 31 March 2014 (UTC).[reply]

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Speedy delete Waste of time. Clear A7. --Randykitty (talk) 08:05, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Assistant professors are usually too early in their career to pass WP:PROF and I see no sign that this case is an exception. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:19, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Batman: Arkham Knight. WP:SNOW. No content apart from "this is a character appearing in X". This could have easily been handled through normal editing without wasting time at AFD. postdlf (talk) 20:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Arkham Knight

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WP:TOOSOON is entirely relevant. This is for an upcoming game that hasn't been released yet. When it has been released, and when there are reliable sources, then an article like this should be created.

EDIT: Already covered in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Arkham_Knight#Characters too. Ging287 (talk) 19:44, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Too soon. buff bills 7701 20:16, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete g11 advertising, g12 copyright violation. It appears that mtv.com allows people to write their own blurb pages. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:17, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Icekid (musician)

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The subject of this article isn't notable. A google search of "Ice Kid" doesn't show significant coverage in reliable third party sources. 123kiki who created the article vandalized the Wizkid article in this edit. The awards and nominations section of the article is false. The subject of the article didn't win nor got nominated for the Hip Hop World Awards and World Music Awards. The other awards mentioned do not appear to be notable because a Google search of them do not yield any positive results. This article fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. versace1608 (talk) 19:44, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete as a copyright violation, and I've requested such action. Also could be speedied as spam. JNW (talk) 20:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Note that whether or not the organisations used as references are themselves notable is not really relevant. Olaf Davis (talk) 00:28, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mahfouz Marei Mubarak bin Mahfouz

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Not notable person. No evidence of in depth coverage in independent reliable sources. None of the independent sources has in depth coverage. No native-language wiki article to poach refs from. Article built almost entirely by SPAs. PROD removed by @ErraticallyIntelligent:, so move to AfD. Stuartyeates (talk) 18:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - The article in question has been referenced using as many independent sources as possible - which include: the University of Oxford, the University of Cambridge, the British Forces Foundation and Burke's Peerage all of which are considered notable organisations (by Wikipedia's standard or otherwise). Whilst notability is not through mere association, one must consider whether: a)Oxford or Cambridge would be granting honours to an individual who is of no note? b)A charity as well known as The British Forces Foundation would appoint as Vice President an individual who is of no note? c)Burke's Peerage would allow the creation of a record (note: the record appears to be a newly created record NOT just a small entry into an existing record) of an individual who is of no note? Therefore the individual, especially as he is being recognised by the above institutions, is notable enough to have a wikipedia article written on him. Ctfn 20:54, 02 April 2014 (BST)

(a) the coverage isn't from the University of Oxford or the University of Cambridge, it from colleges associated with those institutions (but legally completely separate), colleges which are notoriously cash-poor (b) I'd never heard of the The British Forces Foundation until I read this article (c) Burke's Peerage website contact page has a suspicious comment about 'paid research'; I believe they've changed their business model recently? Stuartyeates (talk) 07:47, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In response to the comments above:

a) cash-poor or not, they are still very careful in what they promote - Oxford and Cambridge are (arguably) Britain's top two academic institutions, with a world reputation - and their constituent colleges (whilst separate entities) must still "toe the line" with regards to how they conduct themselves. They are not merely "associated" with the University, but are part of the University itself (no different to Trinity, Clare, Jesus etc. or any other Oxbridge college). My point - the colleges are still well known institutions and (for whatever reason) they have felt fit to recognise the individual of the article and furthermore they have not "tucked him away" but made mention of him on their website and written material. It is also quite clear that the sources were produced by the colleges themselves. If there is enough notability for them, then why not Wikipedia?

b) Just because you have not heard of The British Forces Foundation does not undermine its notability. Indeed it has its own Wikipedia page, which does not appear to have been rejected or deleted (my argument being that, I assume, The British Forces Foundation has passed its own test of notability). Besides, whether or not it is found on Wikipedia, it has received coverage in the British Press, has had associations with a number of celebrities and is a charity probably most familiar to members of the British Armed Forces. (As an aside, the following YouTube link - which whilst it is a promotional video by the charity - should highlight that The British Forces Foundation is not some unknown charity [23]). Again, my point, the individual is not just associated with the organisation (which I hope I have argued is one of note) - he has been appointed as a Vice President (reference to which has been included in the article).

c) Burke's Peerage do appear to offer a paid research service, but from what I gather entry on their records is still rather strict (I also believe this is something they have offered for quite a while - and is more to do with "we need to prove that you are who you claim to be").Ctfn 11:37, 3 April 2014 (BST)

Comment See related AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Mahfouz Foundation involving a similar set of references and editors. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:21, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep - The sources seem good. It looks like he has been noticed by a quite a few organisations (some big, some small). He is also a CEO in Saudi, so surely he should be included as there is a category in Wikipedia of [Category:Saudi Arabian chief executives]. User talk:BenoitHoog 14:09 04 April 2014 (GMT+1)

Keep - I was responsible for removing original PROD. I believe the article should be kept - as per my comment. He is Vice President of the British Forces Foundation. If there is information on the guy, I'm sure people who are interested in the Foundation will want to know more. ErraticallyIntelligent 07/04/2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ErraticallyIntelligent (talk • contribs) 22:17, 7 April 2014 (UTC) [reply]

The above editors are indef-blocked as socks of Ctfn. Drmies (talk) 01:14, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - There is little corroborating information on the web. The term "His Excellency" appears fanciful as it is reserved for the House of Saud, or for those holding senior governmental position - not for any other person. The entire article leaves one feeling that "on the 7th day he rested". If an individual makes charitable contributions to private or public companies and institutions, whether in return for a title or for altruistic reasons, I would imagine that should not automatically make them a person of note. Lonscribe (talk) 04:36, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lonscribe appears to be an SPA as well with no contributions besides this discussion. Valoem ^talk ^contrib 16:19, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments -

a) The use of 'His Excellency' (HE) is by way of the GCMLJ - which is a Knight Grand Cross of Merit from The Military and Hospitaller Order of Saint Lazarus of Jerusalem. Regarding members of the House of Saud - senior members would actually be referred to as 'His Royal Highness' (HRH) [as with members of the British Royal family], junior members 'His Highness' (HH). I believe that the father (who is a Sheikh) would also be entitled to also use HE.

b) To answer the "on the 7th day he rested" the following reference show him contributing (recently) to St John of Jerusalem Eye Hospital: [24]. However, I've not added it to the article as it is merely mention of a contribution.

c) With regards to Lonscribe's comment: If an individual makes charitable contributions to private or public companies and institutions, whether in return for a title or for altruistic reasons, I would imagine that should not automatically make them a person of note. - I would agree with that to some extent BUT if the title or honour is considered noteworthy within a respected and fairly public organisation, then I would argue that there must be an element of notability. I have used the British Forces Foundation as an example in a previous comment, but he has been (and judging by his charity's website - is still being) honoured with positions of respect within other organisations (in fact the GCMLJ is another good example). Famous, definitely not - but I would still argue for his notability.

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Comments -

~~Reconfirm Delete~~

a) In fact there are other sources (such as that on Wikipedia referring to Faisal of Saudi Arabia) that clarify how the term "His Excellency" is reserved solely for members of the Saudi Royal lineage (or senior government officials when holding office), not businessmen, sheikhs or philanthropists etc and certainly not their offspring. In the same way that a British citizen outside of the royal family would never be referred to in English as “HRH”, the term “HE” would never be used to refer inappropriately to someone in Arabic. One notable omission of the article is that this family reputedly originates from Yemen (not of Saudi descent) so could never qualify. The fact that the term "His Excellency" is used inappropriately, reinforces the notion that this is not a suitable article for Wikipedia.

b) I only came across this article during some tangential research. The reason it stuck out compared to other articles on notable persons from the Middle East is that there are no independent, reliable sources of note, it looks "commissioned" and quite self-promotional in comparison. I have no problem with that in principle but as a part-time researcher, the context of an article is paramount so would expect to see such an article on Facebook or a private website, leaving Wikipedia undiluted and largely independent.

c) Yes I see the argument and agree that non-famous people can still be notable. However, that is not the case with this article. There are literally thousands of other Middle Eastern family members of large businesses that do not qualify for Wikipedia (correctly in my view) despite having names associated with global charities and institutions. This article would fall into that category in my humble opinion.

Lonscribe (talk) 00:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Struck the duplicate delete !vote above. Only one !vote is allowed, but feel free to comment all you'd like. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:37, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. I think the awards and honors section here provides enough notability to push him over the edge. Some of the sources here in the article don't really contribute to his personal notability, but I think there's just enough evidence here to make a case for him being notable. Ducknish (talk) 16:31, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Reconfirm Delete~~. After some more careful scrutiny, the article appears far more suitable for a social media site, and would otherwise dilute Wikipedia. Detailed reasoning above.

Struck what appears to be a duplicate !vote in this unsigned entry. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:39, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I did not find anything in the biography to suggest he may be an Excellency (or “صاحب سعادة “ in Arabic), which to the best of my knowledge, needs one to be holding certain official positions, none of which seem to have been quoted in the said article. The article looks like it was put together by an editorial team. It is this kind of article that gives the otherwise wonderful Wikipedia site a bad reputation — EARK123 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. (comment moved from top of page)

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Delete. Vanispampuffery of the worst kind. Sourcing is atrocious, and I do not think that such peerages and "academic" honors (I'll phrase this delicately) confer notability. In the meantime, I'm going to prune the article some, beginning with the portrait gallery of his royal highness. Drmies (talk) 01:18, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no evidence that he's actually done anything noteworthy. Elassint ^Hi 17:53, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, this appears to be a violation of WP:PROMO and WP:VANITY, Drmies actually cleaned the article to the point where I could not tell right off bat. However, further research of the editor who created the article appears to be based on WP:NOTHERE. I could not find any third party RS either. Valoem ^talk ^contrib 22:13, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:07, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Field Apothecary

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No explanation for significance (if there is any), relies on one source. JamKaftan (talk) 18:48, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deleteas not-notable, I'm surprised that one mention in a local website satisfies anybody enough to remove the csd.TheLongTone (talk) 18:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This page should not be speedily deleted because I created it with the plan of additional research to be conducted later under the auspices of a Vassar College class, "Field Experiences in the Hudson Valley."

See the course description: ^[1] See the course requirements (with reference to Wikipedia publishing assignment): ^[2] See the course blog: ^[3]

^ http://faculty.vassar.edu/lenevare/2014/enst291/description.html. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
^ http://faculty.vassar.edu/lenevare/2014/enst291/requirements.html. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
^ "Sustaining Hudson Valley Agriculture | Environmental Studies 291 Spring 2014".

We are trying to get the stubs started so it will be easier for the students to develop them later. If there are suggestions for a better way to go about this, I would like to know, thanks. Baynard (talk) 19:22, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to support your teaching/learning effort. But any article out in "mainspace" is subject to review, i.e. to AFD as here, about whether the topic meets Wikipedia notability standard or not. Not every small business in the Hudson Valley is going to be notable, though I think this one is notable. So either each article needs to have enough sources upfront to establish notability clearly, or you may encounter more AFD processes and have to respond, or you could start the articles in "userspace", e.g. at User:Baynard/Field Apothecary. And only move (which you can do yourself, under Move tab) to mainspace (e.g. to Field Apothecary) when you feel that notability is clear. After a move, the previous location would redirect to the new location. Maybe you could have all your articles indexed, listed, from one userpage, e.g. User:Baynard/Course list of articles. If I were you, i might personally kinda like to develop them in mainspace, so students get to see other editors coming by and adding categories and word-smithing and so on. Usually no one else will contribute to an article in userspace. If you post to my Talk page about any of your stub articles, or point me to a list of them, i would be happy to try to develop them just enough to try to avoid their being nominated for deletion. But even if an article was AFD'd and the decision was to Delete, you could still get a copy of the article "userfied", i.e. put into your userspace, so an AFD process is not that terrible. Hope this helps. --do ncr am 22:30, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The Rural Intelligence article alone seems good enough to establish notability for me. I think references were added, after someone commented that there was just one reference above. Keep. --do ncr am 04:50, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Agree with Doncram. It appears to be a physical example of a CSA. The article needs to be developed (if Wiki does not want to keep the article then perhaps redirect to CSA and add it too that article). User talk:BenoitHoog 14:23 04 April 2014 (GMT+1) — Preceding undated comment added 12:25, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tawker (talk) 06:59, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OpenMarket Inc.

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Fails the notability standard WP:COMPANY because OpenMarket has not been the subject of sustained coverage in independent sources. There's tons of press releases and announcements out there in various PR news services like Wireless News or Health & Beauty Close-Up, but when you take away press releases there's nothing left to justify an article. Other coverages is brief notices of things like mergers and acquisitions, e.g. "Open Market to Acquire Folio Corporation". Information Today, Vol. 14, No. 4, April 1997. Per WP:ROUTINE, this is not the in-depth, independent coverage necessary to meet WP:GNG. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 18:22, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Notability not shown. Xxanthippe (talk) 01:15, 1 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Delete. I agree with Xxanthippe. Besides, if there is no more information than that it is irrelevant. User talk:BenoitHoog 15:48, 3 April 2014 (GMT+1).

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The result was delete. Tawker (talk) 19:32, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Armtech SMOLT

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Subject fails WP:GNG.

All sources I could find circle back to this article or a single unreliable source at “securityarms.com”. [[26]]

I can find no indication that a firearms manufacture called “Armtech” actually exists in Amsterdam. 76.107.171.90 (talk) 17:13, 31 March 2014 (UTC) NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:04, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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STRONG DELETE...I have found some photos and captions of this gun on the internet. It appears to be nothing more than a S&W frame with a Colt barrel. Hence, the name...
SMith and cOLT...SMOLT. It's just some gunsmith's project, experiment, toy or whatever else you want to call it. Therefore it is not notable.--RAF910 (talk) 14:20, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:02, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ASmallWorld

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I placed this article up for deletion since it has been listed as containing non-neutral content (advertising) for a long time. I also think think the page lacks notability WP:CORP. To wit, the content on this page links directly to promotion pieces put out by asmallworld when it launched and asmallworld has an extremely low ALEXA ranking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mostlyoksorta (talk • contribs) 13:39, March 31, 2014 (UTC)

Comment I placed this nomination on behalf of the above user, as his attempt at AfD was incorrectly formatted. I copied the above rational from the incorrect AfD. Safiel (talk) 17:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment There is ongoing suspicious deletion of critical edits occurring on the asmallworld page. Immediately, after I placed this article up for deletion, the primary person who has been maintaining the advertising tone on the page changed the Alexa ranking to reflect a 400,000 place rise for the site. Within hours a bot corrected the ranking back down to below 500,000. The same user has been creating a highly argumentative and accusative atmosphere - consistently deleting material based on 'non-neutral sources' the same sources are used throughout the article in support of advertising biased non-neutral content. (Mostlyoksorta (talk) 01:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Get real. I have explained the change thoroughly → see: Talk:ASmallWorld#Alexa rank - yet you still choose to make such ill-affected accusations. Early 2012, "asmallworld.net" was ranked, at ca. 6000.
Also, I did not do any content changes, but only reverted original research and synthesis, i.e. restored the status quo ante version (from before the IP edits, see this version) Please note the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, which means retaining the status before the bold edit was made and reverted; i.e. "leave the article in the condition it was in before the Bold edit was made". I did offer Mostlyoksorta my help to rewrite the article - instead, the user did choose to continue his/her edit warring and to nominate the article for deletion. Please also see: Talk:ASmallWorld#Edit warring, sockpuppets, WP:OR & WP:SYNTH, proposed deletion of article --IIIraute (talk) 02:53, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can only reiterate that I think this article should either be deleted or kept based on on Wikipedia's criteria, not on whatever personal accusations are being made. As for offers to edit you did that for Faceplant2020 not me. And as far as I can see, Faceplant2020 wrote you back accepting your offer. Whatever happened in the edit history of that article, which clearly includes non-neutral sockpuppeting in the creation of content on behalf of asmallworld, this articles of deletion debate should stick to the facts. (Mostlyoksorta (talk) 10:36, 1 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Keep Appears to, at the very least, satisfy WP:GNG, which is sufficient for inclusion. While fairly weak on WP:NCORP, in the end it doesn't matter, since it satisfies the general notability guidelines. It could stand editing for NPOV. I will not comment as to recent edits or anything about Alexa, as it really doesn't matter at this point, at least as far as keep/delete goes. Safiel (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In regards to WP:GNG the sources in general only reflect a passing interest, all sources are from the time immediately surrounding the relaunch of the website in 2013, and they are generally consistent with a PR campaign rather then NPOV news reporting. Outside of a one or two month period there are no further NPOV sources.(Mostlyoksorta (talk) 14:06, 1 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Comment I would refer you to WP:NTEMP. Notability is not temporary. Once a subject has received sufficient coverage in reliable sources, it does not require ongoing coverage. The company received sufficient coverage in reliable sources at the time of its relaunch to establish notability. Once notability is established, it never goes away. I would have to reiterate my keep position. I should note that I have initiated many AfD's and participated in many more, most of the time going with the delete position. But the convergence of the Wikipedia policies of GNG and NTEMP constrain me to a keep position on this AfD. Safiel (talk) 19:37, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Thanks for your explanations. I am just wondering how this interacts with the idea of Routine Coverage. There is always a story that fills a paper for a day, based on a press release or whatever. I am not sure that their are any duration or depth of coverage under the notability standards. Anyway, I appreciate all your commentary and thought on this. (Mostlyoksorta (talk) 19:48, 1 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Keep kind of wacky reason for deletion, the article should be cleaned of hype and criticism, but there is plenty of external coverage. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22asmallworld%22&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C32 Shii (tock) 19:09, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don't want/have the time to check the guidelines for inclusion now, but the link provided by Shii seems a good start (if it is not disguised promotion). I'd like a good article on ASW because I only had very limited information and, when I were looking forward to know more, Wikipedia was my first stop. --Error (talk) 23:12, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per views, and the large amount of reliable secondary sources that are available, for example here & here - and especially, because it was a very dull & time-wasting AfD nomination from the very beginning. --IIIraute (talk) 00:44, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was procedural close. Improper nomination. Non-admin close. Safiel (talk) 17:48, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I placed this article up for deletion since it has been listed as containing non-neutral content (advertising) for a long time. I also think think the page lacks notability WP:CORP. To wit, the content on this page links directly to promotion pieces put out by asmallworld when it launched and asmallworld has an extremely low ALEXA ranking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mostlyoksorta (talk • contribs) 13:39, March 31, 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. Tawker (talk) 07:00, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

True Detective

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This is the first time I request the deletion of a disambiguation page, but considering WP:DFD never took off, I'm guessing I have to do it here.

Anyway, I think this disambiguation page is an unnecessary hurdle to arrive at each of these 2 articles. WP:HATNOTE clearly applies here.

Now, I guess the obstacle is choosing which article to be located at True Detective while the other gets "hatnote" treatment. I think it's fairly obvious that the TV series article is far more popular than the other article ever was, but I'm open to other arguments. In any case, no matter who gets hatnote treatment, I am still 100% sure that this disambiguation page should be deleted. Feedback ^☎ 17:31, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep This deletion seems just another attempt to move a battle from one field to another. There already was a failed move request, consensus was not reached to move the TV series article, and this AfD only seeks to skirt around and disregard that failed move request determination. We don't get to rehash this over and over again, moving the battlefield each time, with new tricks and procedures--such behavior borders on tendentious editing. This disambiguation page is appropriate per WP:TWODABS, and should be kept. --ColonelHenry (talk) 23:46, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've already answered this silly accusation on my talk page, but I'll answer it here too. I hadn't read TD before today and couldn't care less about renaming the article. It could keep the parenthetical if you want; what I'm looking for is the elimination of this 2-article disambiguation page. Feedback ^☎ 13:55, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Then you should probably read WP:TWODABS...this is a perfectly acceptable and common practice. Get off your high horse.--ColonelHenry (talk) 17:58, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Snow Keep - no reason to delete a perfectly appropriate disambiguation page and to do so would only ignite another round of debate over which is WP:PRIMARY, a no-win situation for all. Montanabw^(talk) 03:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

True Detective (magazine) is a stub that refers to completely unrelated magazines that should probably have their own articles if anyone ever wanted to write them. True Detective (magazine) should really be a disambiguation page of its own. There is really no controversy here as to which is the primary topic. Feedback ^☎ 13:55, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to keep rehashing that argument after consensus has said otherwise, I know admins who would gladly use the banhammer. Your attitude, against that consensus, is verging on tendentious editing and battlefield mentality.--ColonelHenry (talk) 18:00, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This has already been fully discussed on the talkpage. Perfectly acceptable disambiguation page per WP:TWODABS when no primary topic has been determined. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:44, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My argument is that one of the entities, True Detective (magazine) should be a disambiguation page of its own. I really don't see how conglomerating three distinct magazines into one article is appropriate. And I also don't see how a list of 3 different subjects could be considered the "primary topic", when it is in fact a list of different topics. Feedback ^☎ 18:20, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep 3 valid enties, Boleyn (talk) 16:45, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Despite being a small page, it does what it's suppose to. I agree that most people are probably looking for the TV series, but it still does not negate the magazine, which is probably notable to some older (and perhaps less techno-savvy) users of Wikipedia. What is not entirely clear is whether the same magazine was re-released on two separate occasions or if it is (they are) three different magazines. If the latter is true, then surely the argument to keep this page is only strengthened - as future users may wish to expand the magazine article into three separate articles.Ctfn 15:12, 03 April 2014 (BST)
Keep Although right now the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is probably the tv show, in WP:10YT it probably won't be anymore, and the magazines are highly notable. Gaijin42 (talk) 19:42, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tawker (talk) 07:00, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Milo Đurković

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:54, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete ~~Subject fails WP:NFOOTY.~~ Article cites no sources and thus fails WP:V and WP:BLP. ~~That's three strikes.~~ -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On closer examination I am not sure that this player is not in fact a professional player. I will keep an eye on this discussion in case someone comes up with a more definitive answer. The article still fails V and BLP though. So my delete vote still stands.-Ad Orientem (talk) 17:14, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 17:26, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Player has not played in fully professional league, nor played senior international football, so fails NFOOTY. No indication of any other achievements garnering significant reliable coverage to achieve GNG. Fenix down (talk) 06:27, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:08, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Barry Mansale

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:51, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following articles for the same reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:52, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Are you sure these players are not professional? I took a look at the articles and they seem to suggest that they might be. But I am not an expert on international soccer. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete all - fail WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 17:26, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Player has not played in fully professional league, nor played senior international football, so fails NFOOTY. No indication of any other achievements garnering significant reliable coverage to achieve GNG. @Ad Orientem:, none of these players play in a fully professional league (though the ythemselves may well be professional players, this is not relevant), nor have they played senior international football, so fail WP:NFOOTY. There is consensus at WP:FOOTY that youth international appearances do not confer notability. The sources in the articles addtionally are merely routine sports journalism. Fenix down (talk) 06:27, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All- Based on answers to my question above from Fenix down. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Adrienne Armstrong

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Yes, she's Billie Joe Armstrong's wife, but notability is WP:NOTINHERITED from being married to one of the most successful musicians currently alive. This is kind of like Tanya Haden, only Mrs. Armstrong has received even less coverage for reasons unrelated to her celebrity marriage than Haden has. Therefore I think this page should be redirected to Billie Joe's. Jinkinson talk to me 15:29, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Hopelessly promotional. Sources generally fail RS. There is nothing here that rings the notability bell. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:01, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A minor person whose main claim to fame comes through her husband.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:16, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. will attempt to find ambassador / if no ambassador recommend prof suspends work until ambassador found Tawker (talk) 07:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GT Advanced Technologies

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Non-notable company, fails WP:CORP. The only sources in the article are primary and self-published. Article created as part of a school project which appears to have the aim of creating articles for "ALL publicly traded companies", for those "several hundreds of publicly traded companies [that do] not have their corporate entries on Wikipedia" - all this without any regard for notability, of course. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 15:04, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It also only has one article that links to it, Soitec. G S Palmer (talk) 16:09, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete without prejudice to userfication, draft-ification, re-creation, or future un-deletion to a place other than the main encyclopedia provided that any attempt to have an article about this company in the main encyclopedia will not be allowed unless it clearly demonstrates that the company meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:33, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Side comment regarding educational program The ambassador working with this class needs to be brought into this discussion so he can work with the professor(s) and student(s) to make sure that such articles are not created in the future as part of this class assignment. If there is no assigned ambassador, the closing administrator should contact the professor(s) involved and politely but firmly encourage (and if necessary, insist) that they require their students to follow Wikipedia's notability guidelines and recommend that the professor(s) to suspend work until an ambassador can be assigned to work with them. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:33, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tawker (talk) 19:42, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Saleem Technologies

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Despite being mentioned in a few news sources, it doesn't appear to me that this small company meets our notability standards, see WP:CORP. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Spammy and notability seems questionable Nick-D (talk) 08:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, this is an ad, not an encyclopedia article. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 13:22, 6 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

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The result was delete. Tawker (talk) 07:05, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Narrative rock

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Contested PROD with no rationale supplied. Unsourced article on, as far as I can ascertain, non-existant ' musical genre' TheLongTone (talk) 14:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It isn't very well written, either. G S Palmer (talk) 16:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Unsourced, can't even really identify the subject from the article. — Gwalla | Talk 16:46, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Completely made up original research. Could almost be a speedy under WP:G3 or WP:A7. - Pmedema (talk) 17:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: It doesn't really fit either of those CSD criteria (I don't think it's an attempt to mislead, and it's not an individual, animal, organization, web content, or event). Otherwise I would have zapped it myself. — Gwalla | Talk 20:30, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Héctor Lavoe. (non-admin closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:59, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Que Sentimiento

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Fails to pass WP:N guidelines. I searched for reliable sources that would make the content notable, and couldn't find any besides track listings. GRUcrule (talk) 14:44, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Héctor Lavoe. I'm unable to find much coverage for this album - the best coming in this book about the artist. If there is not enough material for a standalone article, then at the least, it's a plausible search term as an album by a notable singer. Gongshow talk 17:17, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per above. Erick (talk) 05:12, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. WP:NPASR. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:27, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Prajwal Parajuly

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This article's notability has been previously questioned by an unlogged user, and the deletion tag removed by KHill-LTown (talk). Among the reasons given for the lack of notability in that instance were a lack of reliable sources independent of the author (e.g. the pre-eminence of comments from his publisher), as well as the presence of a large section that read like a narrative-form CV. I have tried to clean up the article, by removing unsubstantiated statements, and all I am left with is a publication contract with Quercus and the shortlisting of a story. As it is, I am therefore in doubt whether this article meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines, and is not a personal promotion page (an impression I got from the rather hyperbolic language used before I toned it down). After all, there are many writers who publish books and whose stories get shortlisted for prizes, but not all of them have a Wikipedia page. Has this author won any prizes or earned other recognitions that could justify a claim to notability? As it stands, and after trying to rescue it, I suggest it should be deleted. Shurjoroi (talk) 14:07, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and merge with The Gurkha's Daughter. The book has received favorable press and, as such, it seems to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Moreover, the book is currently the biggest reason for the author's notability, so it seems reasonable to keep and merge. --Grasshopper6 (talk) 12:03, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A quick update: I have added more references from the Guardian, the Hindustan Times and LiveMint. --Grasshopper6 (talk) 15:36, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination with semi-protection to keep out meatpuppets. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:26, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sergei Ivanovich Vasiliev

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Looks like WP:PROMOTION. All sources refer to Russian-language sites. Fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:POLITICIAN Gdv777 (talk) 13:15, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep:: WP:PROMOTION is not applicable as the sources are reliably sources. WP:ANYBIO specifies additional caveats, but for the basic inclusion, WP:BASIC is relevant. WP:POLITICIAN, this article passes #2 of it. In any case, just the fact that it is in another language does not justify its deletion. See WP:NOENG. It also passes the general notability guideline. Ging287 (talk) 19:53, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep:: As stated above WP:PROMOTION does not apply because the article is well cited and merely because the sources are Russian does not justify a deletion. In order to make the information more credible, additional sources in English have been added. The article passes #2 of WP:POLITICIAN and the general notability guideline. Article does not fail WP:ANYBIO, WP:BASIC applies as person has considerable coverage in both Russia and Western press. • Wallnut tree (talk) 10:46, 1 April 2014

I think, it fails #2 of WP:POLITICIAN because the goals of the Guild of Purveyors slightly differ from politics - you can read it on their website (here). In my opinion, it also fails of WP:GNG, because of it's sources (WP:NOR). So, I think that the article must be deleted. Gdv777 (talk) 19:21, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You can't have it both ways. Either he is a politican, and then he passes #2 of WP:POLITICIAN or he isn't one, and the additional caveat doesn't qualify. Ging287 (talk) 19:16, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Numerous users and IP users have been removing/omitting sources, for seemingly vague reasons. 'Black PR' and other stuff. Ging287 (talk) 16:34, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete:: Now the article is made of unverified information - so it should be deleted. Kliff93 (talk) 19:57, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete:: Looks like this article was created just to spoil reputation of mentioned person. It refers to strange articles from uknown authors. It should be deleted. Manaos (talk) 22:30, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

'Unknown authors' Do you mean reliable sources? They are independent from the subject and just because an article doesn't make sense, it shouldn't be deleted. Content can be edited by anyone, so WP:SOFIXIT applies. Tutelary (talk) 20:28, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete : Sergei Vasiliev cannot be regarded as a political figure. He is a businessman and has rather an indirect relation to the politics. Also, the information in the article is misrepresented. It's said that he was honored a lot of awards, including the highest public award of the Russian Federation in the field of food production, but in fact not he, but the company was awarded. The Order of the Russian Orthodox Church of the 3rd Class and the letters of thanks also cannot be considered significant awards (contradiction WP:ANYBIO). In the cited references Vasiliev is only mentioned in the text, significant coverage of his activities, as required by WP:GNG, is absent. Regarding the controversy – it's only a brief burst of news coverage, ie it's necessary to remember the WP:NTEMP rule. The article on Ground Report cannot be considered reliable and third-party, news on this site can be written by anyone. Polina Popova, author of the article "The "Krysha" – Oligarchs and their Protectors" had registered on the website and published her article the same day – March 5, 2014. 213.87.131.147 (talk) 20:12, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This article has been repeatedly censored and blanked by Sockpuppets and possible meatpuppets in an attempt to censor the reliably source controversy section. It passes WP:GNG, content should be regarded under WP:UNDUE and such.

I propose to consider each source separatelly.

2, 10 – official web site, ie not an independent source of information.

9 – web site, where the article can be published by anyone, unreliable source (author – unknown Polina Popova).

3 – news refer to the article of freelancer Polina Popova (9th source), moreover the information about Sergei Vasiliev is incomplete, thus besides the fact that the reliability of information is in doubt, significant coverage is about the company, but not about the person of Vasiliev.

4, 6 – the same article in the blog EconoMonitor, and again siginificant part of the article is devoted to the company and a couple of lines to Sergei Vasiliev.

5 – too few information about Vasiliev, absolutely no data, except the fact that he was involved in a kind of controversy and is the head of the guild of Kremlin suppliers.

7, 8 – the same article, nothing except the information about the scandal again.

Ie WP:GNG compliance wasn not shown, as well as the apparennt contradiction to the rule WP:NTEMP (brief surge of interest).

Tne only source that is possible to pay attention to is the first one (although the article revolves around the same scandal). However, according to the rules the presence of multiple sources is necessary (third WP:GNG note). 213.87.131.69 (talk) 20:24, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete : I agree that this article should be deleted. I have looked through infromation - strange facts about "pushed other companies" and references to articled which have been written by uknown outsorsers. And this man is not political man, so the whole part of text is not relevant. In outcome we see that his page has beed created by competitors and it is not acceptable for wikipedia. 178.124.104.92 (talk) 14:42, 21 April 2014

Delete : First of all - this article is not useful for people. And yes - I agree with above mentioned opinions - sourses looks very strange and unreliable. Looks unreal that the same people protect such information in article and now they protect this article. Their tryings to save such pieces of not approved information which can damage reputation of this preson looks rather strange. My be they are not neutral in this case. 89.178.101.21 (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Online Film Critics Society Award for Best Visual Effects

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Award given out twice, once in 2002, the other in 2003, it isn't sourced, not enough for it's own page LADY LOTUS • TALK 13:05, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Online Film Critics Society Award for Best Sound

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Award given out twice, once in 2002, the other in 2003, it isn't sourced, not enough for it's own page LADY LOTUS • TALK 13:04, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Online Film Critics Society Award for Best Art Direction

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Award given out twice, once in 2002, the other in 2003, it isn't sourced, not enough for it's own page LADY LOTUS • TALK 13:04, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as lacking independent in depth coverage, per WP:GNG; the proposed merge target has no independent refs either. Feel free to ping my talk page if improvements are made tot he article. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:51, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Online Film Critics Society Award for Best DVD

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Online Film Critics Society Award for Best Costume Design

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Award given out twice, once in 2002, the other in 2003, it isn't sourced, not enough for it's own page LADY LOTUS • TALK 13:03, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Online Film Critics Society Award for Best DVD Special Features

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Online Film Critics Society Award for Best DVD Commentary

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Online Film Critics Society Award for Best Film Related Website

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Online Film Critics Society Award for Best Film Review Website

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Award was given out once in 1999 and the recipient doesn't have an article LADY LOTUS • TALK 13:02, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to appropriate section of Online Film Critics Society Discontinued Awards GoldenRing (talk) 12:07, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Clearly meets Wikipedia's notability standards per the sources provided by User:Agyle in the discussion. (non-admin closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:57, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

MazaCoin

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Another non-notable cryptocurrency article. The only claim to notability being "the official currency of the Lakota people" which isn't exactly true either. Lewis Hulbert (talk) 12:42, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak Delete~~ - currency is new, would probably be better moved to user space until it has gained more usage and coverage. Jonpatterns (talk) 13:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - as per Agyle's research (below). Jonpatterns (talk) 13:43, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong Delete - remove ALL non-notable coins from premises. Citation Needed | Talk 20:51, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Just a friendly suggestion to give clear reasons for keeping or deleting an article, for example "keep, met gng with 3 articles in scholarly journals". Reviewers weigh the strengths of arguments, rather than just tally up votes. (Note: Mazacoin does not seem to occur in any scholarly journals or books.) Agyle (talk) 23:43, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Meets WP:GNG based on a significant number of articles in a variety of established media over a one month period. Article is still in bad shape, but can be improved with existing sources. There is some information from the sources seems a little inconsistent (e.g., differences in terminology, inconsistency on "official status", etc.), and these present some challenges in covering the topic, but solutions are possible. As an example, when contradictory information is presented in credible sources, both versions can be presented with in-article attribution. A list of arguably-reliable sources currently used in the article (a couple have trivial-to-minor coverage, but most are primarily about MazaCoin).:

Bradbury, Danny (2014-02-06). "Mazacoin Aims to be Sovereign Altcoin for Native Americans". CoinDesk.
Hamill, Jasper (2014-02-27). "The Battle of Little Bitcoin: Native American tribe launches its own cryptocurrency". Forbes.
Sparkes, Matthew (2014-02-28). "Native Americans adopt bitcoin clone as official currency". The Telegraph.
Vincent, James (2014-03-03). "Mazacoin: Native American tribe adopts bitcoin derivative as 'national currency'". The Independent.
Landry, Alysa (2014-03-03). "9 questions surrounding MazaCoin, the Lakota cryptocurrency: answered". Indian Country Today Media Network.
Jeffries, Adrianne (2014-03-05). "Native American tribes adopt Bitcoin-like currency, prepare to battle US government". The Verge.
Hofman, Adam (2014-03-06). "The dawn of the national currency – an exploration of country-based cryptocurrencies". Bitcoin Magazine.
Vigna, Paul (2014-03-07). "Lakota Indian promotes new digital currency, Mazacoin". The Wall Street Journal.
Ramos, Jairo (2014-03-07). "A Native American tribe hopes digital currency boosts its sovereignty". Code Switch: Frontiers of Race, Culture, and Ethnicity. National Public Radio.
Gaylord, Chris (2014-03-22). "Good Reads: From teacher fundraisers, to an atomic timekeeper, to MazaCoin". The Christian Science Monitor.
Sullivan, Gail (2014-03-26). "Everyone in Iceland just got a free wad of digital cash. Will it save their economy?". The Washington Post.

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Keep per above, if it's being used as an official currency and it has coverage this would pass the GNG. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 12:20, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just to be clear, the claim of "official" is murky (several RSs support it, but The WSJ retracted it), and even the legitimacy of a modern "Lakota Nation" seems controversial, an issue that predates Mazacoin. Agyle (talk) 15:58, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Online Film Critics Society Discontinued Awards. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:21, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Online Film Critics Society Award for Best Screenplay

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Award given only 2 times, once in 1997, the other in 2000. I find that hardly notable enough for it's own page. Plus it's not referenced LADY LOTUS • TALK 12:06, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to appropriate section in Online Film Critics Society Discontinued Awards, newly created helpfully by editor OscarGuy13. Keep the page history in the redirected article, no need to delete that, best to credit the contribution per our crediting guidelines. --do ncr am 15:30, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect as above. GoldenRing (talk) 12:06, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Microsoft Excel. (non-admin closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:18, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Microsoft Excel Viewer

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This article should be redirected (and / or merged) to Microsoft Excel as it doesn't any useful information nor why this product is notable. I haven't any found any reliable sources about the viewer itself. mabdul 11:51, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge It doesn't seem to meet the fourth clause of WP:INDISCRIMINATE. However, I'm not an expert on software, so I may be wrong. G S Palmer (talk) 16:30, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Merge regardless of notability per WP:SIZERULE. Would be a good addition to Microsoft Excel article. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 01:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Tawker (talk) 19:42, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mine a Million

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Not enough available references. StudiesWorld (talk) 11:47, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Make that no references. G S Palmer (talk) 16:33, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is a real thing, I seeing ample evidence of that, and it was released in 1965, and renamed in 1970. BoardGameGeek seems to be a reliable source for this sort of thing. I'm not sure about historygamer.com How to find source for things from that long ago, but if it kept selling for years, it must've been popular enough to get some mention somewhere. Dream Focus 02:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)#[reply]
Keep BGG is a reliable source. The worst case would be merger into Waddingtons per WP:ATD. Andrew (talk) 07:10, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep "No references" is a reason to improve the article not delete an article.BankingCrisis (talk) 21:53, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Waddingtons. While BGG is a reliable source, it is merely a singular one, where as establishing notability requires Multiple Reliable Sources. Additionally, the source only establishes that the game exists, but not why it is notable. As the guideline on WP:NOTABILITY states, "No subject is automatically or inherently notable merely because it exists: The evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition". As it stands, the single source thus far found only serves to show that the game exists, and the article itself in its present state serves only as a "How to play" guide, without making any claim of notability. 64.183.45.226 (talk) 23:47, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep I agree with what 64.183.45.226 said. BGG is a directory of every board game ever published, like a phone book, it just proves existence. The game is not particularly favored (ranks around a 5 on BGG which is pretty low), nor rare, except nostalgia value for anyone who played it long ago. I looked for independent coverage and couldn't find anything.. but there may be sources from the 1960s/70s that are harder to locate. Since the article is somewhat developed in the spirit of PRESERVE this AfD can be a warning and if nothing material has changed by a second AfD I would have to support Delete. --GreenC 03:55, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Historical game, several wp:rs sources. ^walk victor falk^talk 00:14, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Liam Crowe

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Contested prod on the grounds that although an WP:NFOOTY failure WP:GNG alas not so clear cut. I believe GNG failure is still clear cut. No indication that the subject has achieved significant reliable coverage on the basis of one cup win. Fenix down (talk) 11:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails both WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 11:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG... JMHamo (talk) 13:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - He has not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:48, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tawker (talk) 19:41, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Howden AFC

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Article originally PRODded with the rationale "Very low-level amateur team, never played at a level of football deemed notable by WP:FOOTY.". Disputed with the rationale "Removing PROD. This is not an open or shut case" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:09, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - WP:FOOTYN failure, has not played in a national cup nor at a national level of the pyramid. No indication that the club has garnered significant, reliable, non-routine coverage for any other activities. Fenix down (talk) 11:43, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - non-notable team. Giant Snowman 11:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. NN. Needs to be a shut case. Szzuk (talk) 20:30, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep. (WP:Non-admin closure). §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:16, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agnivansha

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Original research and unsourced claims , does not have reliable sources Shrikanthv (talk) 10:43, 31 March 2014 (UTC) Shrikanthv (talk) 10:43, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep It is poor, certainly, but it is one of the principlemythological dynasties of India from which groups such as the Rajputs claim descent. Similar to the Solar dynasty and the Lunar dynasty. It is capable of being expanded and otherwise improved. - Sitush (talk) 20:43, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker ^talk 02:40, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Giles Corey (album)

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Fails WP:NALBUM Anupmehra -Let's talk! 09:41, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Northern Antarctica (₵) 03:07, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete per WP:CSD#A9. STATic message me! 18:45, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:20, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmad Sardar

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WP:ONEEVENT. M. Caecilius (talk) 08:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Subject clearly passes WP:GNG & WP:BIO. Significant coverage in the reliable sources (Yahoo, Voa, Guardian, Cnn, Hrw, Time, Channel4, Nst, etc). The article requires a little expansion to cover all his related works, not deletion. He is not notable for a single event as the nominator cites it for a reason of deletion. As reported by Yahoo news,

His last feature for AFP, filed on Tuesday, was about a lion called Marjan, rescued by animal welfare officials from living on a rooftop in Kabul. That was a follow-up to a story Ahmad himself broke last year, generating headlines around the world.

He wrote in the feature: "Marjan is named after a famous half-blind lion who lived at Kabul zoo and became a symbol of Afghanistan's national survival after living through coups, invasions, civil war and the hardline Taliban era before dying in 2002.

Ahmad showed his entrepreneurial bent by founding Kabul Pressistan, a successful local news agency that has provided fixing and translation services for numerous foreign reporters coming to Kabul.

There are many similar events quoted by various reliable sources that falsify the nominator's claim and establish notability of the subject and suggests subject suitable for inclusion. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 09:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Some more sources here, Nyt, Dailymail, Latimes, Official AFP blog. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 09:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment:. While the article may pass WP:GNG and WP:BLP, per WP:BASIC,

Articles may still not be created for such people if they fall under exclusionary criteria, such as being notable only for a single event, or such as those listed in What Wikipedia is not.

The fact, furthermore, that an article is created for the subject only after his death, and that all reliable sources available are primarily devoted to covering the event surrounding his death should be indicative of the subject's otherwise lack of sufficient notability. None of the quotes presented above, in addition, exhibit sufficient notability to warrant an article. Information about the subject is best presented in separate articles on the shooting event and the news agency he founded, if either should be found notable. M. Caecilius (talk) 09:28, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The subject is neither notable for a single event nor it falls under WP:NOT. Please review sources given above or do a simple google search. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 09:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, I'd like to voice my objection to the above commentator's condescending suggestions, both of which I had, in fact, performed earlier and which led to my belief that the subject does not meet the notability guidelines.

That being said, none of the quotes the above user cited for establishing notability is sufficient. The fact remains that, with no offence meant, had this journalist not died in a memorable event, there would not be this preponderance of sources the article is relying solely upon, and the notability of his deeds would have been called into question much more easily, which qualifies him squarely within WP:ONEEVENT.

Finally, I would point out that I had, in fact, never appealed to WP:NOT, which is only included in the above note in disjunction to WP:ONEEVENT and can be ignored for our purposes. M. Caecilius (talk) 22:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- Another contributor above makes the questionable assertion that the fact that the article was only created after his death proves he is only known for a single event.

This assertion is questionable because it assumes the massively false assumption that we already have articles about every living individual who meets our notability criteria. This is not even close to being true. While there are lots of AFD, for instance, for academics who do not meet the criteria for WP:ACADEMICS they would be dwarfed by the number of senior academics who would meet the criteria for WP:ACADEMICS for whom we don't have articles.

Very few of the individuals for whom we keep standalone articles had their wikipedia notability established by a single notability factor. Almost all our BLPs had their wikipedia notability established by adding up the inherent notability of partial notability factors. As per WP:ACADEMICS being recognized as a a leading member of one's field by one's professional peers is a strong notability factor. Ahmad Sardar being interviewed by less experienced war reporters is a kind of recognition by his professional peers. I think someone could have started an article about Sardar, prior to his death. I think if it had been brought to AFD, his notability would have been right on the cusp, and that discussion could have gone either way. But his assassination is a strong notabilty factor, and added to the other factors, should establish his notability. Geo Swan (talk) 14:02, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I oppose the above commentator's contention that I made any suggestion to the effect that no article should be created after a person's death, but solely that the present situation, which is that (and I don't believe that anyone has yet refuted this satisfactorily) the subject has only come into the spotlight of reliable sources by virtue of his notable death, is a strong indicator that we need to examine closely whether the individual fits WP:ONEEVENT. Certainly there are individuals who, by our omission, are notable but not included in this encyclopaedia at the time of death. That being said, the subject in question here is not one such example.

Moreover, "being interviewed by less experienced war reporters" is a rather weak criterion. I need scarcely to point out that this criterion would lead to the inclusion of patently non-notable people. M. Caecilius (talk) 22:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Every single reference is connected to his death, which supports the nominator's contention that this is a ONEEVENT. If someone could present some source independent of that event, I'd be open to changing my lvote. Otherwise, Wikipedia is not a memorial. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:54, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment:. As I have noted somewhere in the discussion above, I would support creating an article on the bombing event, which is clearly notable in itself, as the sources currently presented in the article in question demonstrate. Information about the subject is then best presented in the article on the event, as well as an article on the press organization he had founded, if that organization should be found notable. M. Caecilius (talk) 22:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or redirect to event article. I understand the "ONEVENT" claim, but we should also remember that people's lives are often first publicly documented on their deaths. All the best, Rich Farmbrough, 00:03, 1 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]
Re-direct since he does seem to be notable just for the one event. Above all else, I vote against deletion, since its a notable event worthy of encyclopedic coverage. Orser67 (talk) 16:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or redirect to event article. Gurumoorthy Poochandhai 16:56, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a one event article, and its very existence just adds to the undue emphasis on recent events that is one of Wikipedia's major problems.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:05, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not wholly convinced by this sort of recentism argument. While we need more coverage of people like Fanny Butterfield Newell the idea that we should obtain some sort of parity by deleting recent stuff, if taken to its logical extension is absurd. There are English kings about whom all we know (and that uncertainly) is their name, parentage, kingdom and (very) approximate dates of reign - should we then reduce all monarch articles to this level? All the best, Rich Farmbrough, 15:38, 3 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

This is an obvious "slippery slope" fallacy, as WP:ONEEVENT does not say anything about parity or the coverage of English monarchs. If this guideline itself is in dispute, then the best venue to discuss that would certainly not be this AfD discussion. M. Caecilius (talk) 19:23, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 07:17, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sumit Ghosh Media

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no notablilty and reference stated only anonces the upcoming movie and nothing about notability of the media company Shrikanthv (talk) 08:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC) Shrikanthv (talk) 08:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Obvious delete. Most refs don't even mention the production house. The producer's article itself was deleted for not being notable WP:Articles_for_deletion/Sumit_Ghosh. Harsh (talk) 13:21, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tawker (talk) 19:41, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jat Sikh clans of Jalandhar Division

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does not have notability and the references does not match the claim Shrikanthv (talk) 08:34, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As I say on the article's talk page: "It cited a 1984 reprint of the Imperial Gazetteer of India Provincial Series, Punjab, Volume 1, 1908, as "volume 2" and referred to its contents as data from the Census of India 1911! Worse, it is copied from different editions of the Provincial and District Gazetteers of British India, some from 1912, some from 1931. It has synthesized information. It should be removed from Wikipedia."

The British in England were 30 years ahead of the British in India: the first census of Britain was held in 1841 (to India's in 1871). If this article is kept, then why shouldn't I be allowed to copy the first census and make one page for every village in England? Fowler&fowler «Talk» 08:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per Fowler&fowler. Jim Carter ⁽^talk⁾ 00:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Fowler's reasoning. Enigma^msg 00:14, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete ,Fowler has given a good reason for the deletion.--Skr15081997 (talk) 04:20, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Tawker (talk) 07:05, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Shiatzy Chen

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I am quite sure the firm is notable. But the article seems to be very highly promotional, with multiple adjectives and sentences and paragraphs) of praise and puffery. I think it is beyond fixing by editing, and would need to be started over. DGG ( talk ) 08:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - I saw this while populating the List of fashion designers and while I did add her, I shuddered. I agree that it is probably notable, but DOES need to be strafed with fire and recreated properly. Mabalu (talk) 16:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion One option could be to create a very straightforward article for the founder, and redirect this page there. Mabalu (talk) 20:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Following a quick hacking out of all the repetition/blaffle/promo, and reorganising it, I think there's a lot of material here to show notability. The references will need to be double checked and verified, but sources such as the first one, with its extensive commentary on the brand and the designs, are REALLY strong and a cut above what you usually get. Mabalu (talk) 12:49, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Forbes calls it one of the most successful Taiwanese luxury brands, and its founder one of the 25 most influential ethnic Chinese designers worldwide. The article has lots of problems, but they can be fixed without resorting to deletion. -Zanhe (talk) 13:43, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. No prejudice against the creation of a redirect. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:08, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tathastu Information Technology

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15 employees and really not reference given on notibality of the companyShrikanthv (talk) 08:58, 24 March 2014 (UTC) Shrikanthv (talk) 08:58, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I can find company listings and a brief press mention of the company name in the context of a list of its managing director's interests but nothing beyond that. Fails WP:CORPDEPTH. AllyD (talk) 07:01, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:INDAFD. Notable in context to India.117.194.202.77 (talk) 17:03, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: WP:INDAFD is not a waiver of the need to demonstrate notability. It does describe some particular circumstances at WP:INDAFDKI but none concerns companies. What aspect do you think applies for this particular firm? AllyD (talk) 13:48, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This farm have been involved in several Govt. of India projects. Google does not indexed those links. Please, use this link [27]. 117.194.204.248 (talk) 07:44, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I previously looked at these links on that page. Which do you think is evidence of notability? Please note that being involved in projects is not inherently of encyclopaedic notability - it is what any and every company does. AllyD (talk) 18:55, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect/Merge to its CEO Anand Mishra as there are some local newspapers coverage. Bisswajit 07:02, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No attempt to provide evidence of notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:27, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Treating this as a supported prod owing to the lack of interest in this case. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:07, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Vote for Child Rights

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Does not meet WIki notibality , may be fraud to collect donations Shrikanthv (talk) 08:50, 24 March 2014 (UTC) Shrikanthv (talk) 08:50, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - while I can't attest one way or the other about the honesty of the campaign, it appears to be just that - merely a campaign, and a non-notable one at that. I tried some Google searches, and found lots of information about how this campaign is raising attention and funds, but not about any actual results. This advert will need a major re-write even if it is eventually kept. See also Think of the children and Nancy Grace. Bearian (talk) 20:36, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:07, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gopal Rai

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN. An electorally unsuccessful politician. This is one of a series of articles seemingly created by Aam Aadmi Party-centric contributors in the run-up to the 2014 Indian elections, of which similar ones such as Subhash Ware have already been deleted via AfD. Wikipedia should not be the place to promote election candidates and minor party functionaries. Sitush (talk) 08:28, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:OUTCOMES. We have almost always deleted articles about unsuccessful North American political candidates; we should do the same for South Asian candidates in similar circumstances. Bearian (talk) 20:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Member of National Executive and high profile leader in the political party. Min2winit (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The national executive of the AAP is a large, unelected body of cronies with no real influence because of the AAP's grassroots/localist agenda. Thus, membership has counted for nothing in the recent deletion debate for, say, Subhash Ware. As for "high profile", well, you'll see that said on about 80 per cent of all our articles about Indian politicians - it is a vacuous phrase, often seen together with other vague terms such as "senior leader". - Sitush (talk) 18:42, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Does not pass notability requirements for politicians. Thrub (talk) 04:20, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep - Meets WP:GNG as per [28], [29], [30], [31], [32]. Besides, a simple web search will provide some other significant sources too.

As for WP:POLITICIAN, Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage does constitute notability. He's a member of Political Affairs Committee of a major Indian political party [33] & [34].

I'll try to improve refs in the article though. Harsh (talk) 07:15, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep - Meets WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN. Also agree with above Keep Points. I hope User:Harsh_2580 will be able to improve the article further. --DBig Xray 23:45, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have provided following refs and added some content - IndiaTV, FirstPost, YahooNews, DNA, MSN News. I hope this is more than enough to have this article saved. Harsh (talk) 15:43, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:01, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Google Mars

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Does not seem to be notable, no citations whatsoever, the only claim of notability in the article is how the service is included with Google Earth. The ChampionMan 1234 06:10, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Notable. Per WP:NRVE, topic notability is based upon the availability of sources, and not whether or not sources are present in articles. Source examples:

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Keep. That's pretty compelling evidence of notability. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:01, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep While the NASA sources are not independent (this is a Google collaboration with NASA), Northamerica1000's other source finds are independent reliable sources in enough depth to satisfy WP:GNG. The article could use better references, but this is a surmountable problem, per WP:SURMOUNTABLE. A notable topic and surmountable article problems suggest keeping the article. --Mark viking (talk) 17:13, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep; evidence of notability has been shown, to satisfy WP:GNG. StringTheory11 (t • c) 19:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --The subject is already notable, as shown by NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰; it will likely become more vital in at least the science and education realms as it gets developed further. (e.g., it's already a recommended site at Science Mars.) - Gorthian (talk) 19:15, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Delete and salt. j⚛e decker ^talk 02:49, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fame Fashion and Creative Excellence (FFACE)

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Did not see any notablity reference other than facbook pages and adds in news paper Shrikanthv (talk) 09:06, 24 March 2014 (UTC) Shrikanthv (talk) 09:06, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~*Keep~~ - I have carefully considered the content of the page and with my ability to read the regional language, it is a proper press release and not a newspaper ad. Press releases are considered to be notable. I do not think there is reason to delete. I have also added categories to list it correctly Streethawk83 (talk) 13:05, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~*Keep~~ - Thank you. Another reference added " Gomolo on FFACE dated 25.3.2014" to make the article even stronger. awesomeme111 21:21, 24 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awesomeme111 (talk • contribs)

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Comment - It sounds like it has good intent - But is it notable? Bearian (talk) 22:32, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Sorry. I had a search for Fame Fashion and Creative Excellence, excluding Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, & YouTube, and got an epic six hits - absolutely none of which were valid as sources. I simply can't see any notability. Mabalu (talk) 10:30, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the only Google book references are to a middle English alternate spelling of 'fface'. Bearian (talk) 17:41, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ - It has Indian Regional and National Dailies News Coverage awesomeme111 20:40, 26 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awesomeme111 (talk • contribs)

~~*Keep~~ Definitely verifiable content. Involvement of loads of distinguished people from film and fashion. Tags changed to additional citation requirement.Soma1959 (talk) 21:45, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources, and I found a press release by a notable journal Ebela, sister concern of The Telegraph (Calcutta). The fame fashion and creative excellence article's reference no 5 confirms a press release in this specific journal. 203.171.222.5 (talk) 12:43, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Please note press release can be done by any person and cannot be used for notablity

Comment seems sockpuppeting and ip's are spamming the deletion process for keeps!! Shrikanthv (talk) 13:13, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment While the above reason and reference is quite correct, sockpuppeting is not at all acceptable (apologies if that's not the case). A request to all, please note that Wikipedia articles should always merit to be an encyclopedia article and has to be notable. Please don't try to disrupt the debate by spamming keeps and deletes. We need to have a clear consensus and have a healthy debate to ensure if the article qualifies for a wikipedia article. If possible, encourage in improving the article. awesomeme111 17:08, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Comment Additional citation added - Tollywood Dhamaka. Retrieved 25 March 2013.awesomeme111 22:06, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

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Comment I've relisted this AfD and protected this page. Looks like some socking or meatpuppeting hase been going on to disrupt the process. → Call me Hahc21 06:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Socks notification , I have just check the keeps comment seems all are socks of the creator of the article socks here : User talk:Streethawk83 , Awesomeme111 , Soma1959 Shrikanthv (talk) 07:47, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - based on what I've seen since my comment, this is mere spam being pushed by advocates. Bearian (talk) 20:27, 9 April 2014 (UTC) P.S. I have semi-portected the page for 24 hours to prevent another removal of the WP:AfD tag. Bearian (talk) 20:28, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and salt as per Bearian. Stuartyeates (talk) 02:46, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker ^talk 02:51, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Projectproject

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Non-notable performing group; requires significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Local sources only mention group briefly or do not satisfy WP:GNG/WP:RS. First AFD was closed without any editors' weighing in, and the article still does not meet policy. -- Wikipedical (talk) 03:16, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Not sure why the last AFD wasn't just treated like an uncontested (re-listed twice) PROD but I would have weighed in had I seen it. Anyway, I can't find anything to suggest the subject meets WP:ORGDEPTH. There's a little bit of coverage but what I could find is all very, very local. Stalwart111 03:31, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

N.b. The previous discussion was closed as no consensus with no prejudice against speedy renomination due to no quorum present. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:53, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Can't find any sources to establish non-local notability. -Iago Qnsi 13:01, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was No consensus. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Juan Riedinger

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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG JMHamo (talk) 15:50, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. Mostly bit actor, but has won some Leo Awards. Bearian (talk) 17:14, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Unsourced BLP The Banner talk 12:56, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Unsourced BLP. I might find the winning of Leos persuasive if the article actually mentioned and sourced that fact at all (but with the Leos being regional rather than national in scope, that would still depend on what category or categories he won in and how well it could be sourced.) Delete unless the article starts seeing real sourcing improvement. Bearcat (talk) 01:03, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was No consensus. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

CubicTest

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unreferenced, does not meet WP:GNG or other notability guidelines. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:24, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - software article of unclear notability, lacking independent references. A search did not turn up any RS coverage. Article was created by an SPA as possibly promotional.Dialectric (talk) 07:00, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:19, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dogtail

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Self-published or trivial references. I can't find any material to support WP:GNG or other notability guidelines. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:26, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete While this software technology may be on the rise and eventually clear the notability threshold, so far it seems to be premature to warrant full Wikipedia article status. It looks like much of the "coverage" of it is in an online "magazine" (those quotes are all deliberate) published by the distributor of the software ("published" might warrant quotes as well), which to me is a signal that it lacks inherent notability (the cart is coming before the horse). I could not find multiple instances of significant coverage in independent reliable third-party secondary sources with editorial oversight and broad public distribution/ appeal. Yet. KDS4444^Talk 09:12, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep it is notable enough for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScotXW (talk • contribs) 16:55, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - software article of unclear notability. The redhat magazine refs are RS coverage, but all by the same author, Len DiMaggio, in the same magazine, and primarily how-to articles. In the absence of additional RS coverage, notability is not established. A search revealed blogs, but no additional RS coverage. Article was created by an SPA 'Ldimaggi' who may well be the author of those redhat articles given the similar name.Dialectric (talk) 07:07, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus--Ymblanter (talk) 07:20, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Institute of Islamic and Secular Studies

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Total absence of evidence. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:01, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. It is a high school, and meets notability standard wp:NHS as far as i can tell. It is verifiable, e.g. this link verifying, found easily by noticing the school is listed in List of secondary schools in Mauritius and then looking at references in that list-article. The lack of references in the article itself suggests tagging is appropriate, but the topic seems notable. --do ncr am 04:18, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Appears to be a secondary school, kept by long-standing precedent and consensus. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:56, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no references independently supporting notability. Neutrality^talk 21:07, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Article lacks references to even prove this is a real institution.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:39, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Unless the author can find some sources. Thus far, nothing has demonstrated that it is notable....or even exists. Bali88 (talk) 01:14, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unreferenced so no sources to verify existence. LibStar (talk) 05:31, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. A quick Google search will confirm it exists (you could actually do that in the time it takes to claim its existence is not confirmed!), although I can find no substantial coverage. Nevertheless, as a secondary school... -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:02, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES - it exists. ansh666 05:54, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Based on ansh666's link, it seems to exist. Could use some more information, but definitely should stick around until then. Adamh4 (talk) 21:30, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Treating this as an uncontested PROD owing to the complete lack of interest. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:06, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Basab Pradhan

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fails WP:BIO. claim to notability is being head of sales in a major company. that is hardly notable. also most of the article is about minor facts about him. LibStar (talk) 00:13, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. article does require cleanup, but AfD != Cleanup... Nominator stated doubtful notability, erring on the side of inclusionism here. Tawker (talk) 22:10, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

James Reynolds (correspondent)

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Doubtful notability, likely self-promotion. The only sources are to his employer's staff directory and to the alumni list at his school. "External links" only links to his Twitter and Facebook accounts. kashmiri ^TALK 00:12, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep -- BBC Foreign correspondents frequently broadcast as part of BBC natioanl and international news bulletins and programmes. They are accordingly certainly notable. I do not necessarily take that view of those who report merely on regional bulletins. It is not a good article, and needs a lot of improvement, including better sourcing, but that is no reason for deletion. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:05, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. No prejudice against creating a redirect to the film he wrote/produced — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:05, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Norman

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Fails WP:NACTOR. Despite being saved at last nomination, there are few independent sources where the subject is the focus of the article. Also fails WP:FILMMAKER. Flat Out let's discuss it 05:15, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Although I know next to nothing about Australian TV dramas, I do know how to do a Google search, and I am also aware that the nominator knows Australia well. It seems that this fellow had minor roles on three notable TV series, and once made a short film. That's not enough. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:40, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I agree that he is not notable as an actor. What he did do is is write direct and produce Salute (2008 film) which is notable. At the least this article should be merged/redirected there. duffbeerforme (talk) 22:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - the film doesn't seem to meet WP:MOVIE and Norman doesnt meet WP:FILMMAKER Flat Out let's discuss it

For Salute have a look at some reviews linked here. Eg [35] (appeared in the print version of The Age, not just that blog.) [36] [37]. Also a full length article in Hawker, Philippa (15 July 2008). "Salute to a champion". The Age. duffbeerforme (talk) 02:50, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks. How then does Norman meet WP:FILMMAKER Flat Out let's discuss it 04:28, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

he might not, so redirect or merge instead of deleting. duffbeerforme (talk) 00:02, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

happy to support redirect if that is your vote. Flat Out let's discuss it 00:18, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Matt Norman is well know actor, I understand he is known only in Australia.User:Lucifero4

Comment he isn't well known in Australia but that isnt the point, please comment on the subjects notability as per WP:NACTOR or WP:FILMMAKER. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:01, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete insufficient evidence to meet WP:NACTOR. LibStar (talk) 11:45, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Insufficient criteria to meet WP:NACTOR. Insignificant, minor roles. KarlDefoe (talk) 22:42, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 07:12, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

James Parey

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Unremarkable junior basketball coach, fails WP:NBASKETBALL, contested prod. WWGB (talk) 04:38, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Delete - No real independent reliable sources, and AAU coaches most definitely don't have a presumption of notability. Also, from the creator's username it sounds like it could be a vanity article. Not sure under what grounds the PROD was removed, but it shouldn't have been. Rikster2 (talk) 12:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete - I find this to be a clear case of WP:VANITY. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:15, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per above. Northern Antarctica (₵) 15:13, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No indication of notability. In all likelihood a vanity page. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 19:22, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This guy is not even close to being notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Clear case. Snow?BennyHillbilly (talk) 09:32, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. Meets A7 CSD, given lack of discussion I don't see point of re-listing. Tawker (talk) 19:38, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Brosix Inc.

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Article doesn't appear to meet WP:NSOFT. The sole claim-to-fame is the About.com Reader's Choice Awards, which are given in many, many categories, and don't appear to be very significant. The ridiculous quantity of flimsy sources (now removed) is the hallmark of Wiki-PR edits. Article was previously drafted by a sock of Morning277. Grayfell (talk) 03:47, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:00, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tat Wood

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Tat Wood's only claim to notability is the fact that he has written/edited a few Doctor Who articles, hardly enough to justify a Wikipedia article of his own. G S Palmer (talk) 03:34, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This [38] helps establish notability. It should be pointed out that this was only nominated for AfD because of a dispute on another page. [39]. 41.132.48.255 (talk) 05:01, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I nominated it because of this. G S Palmer (talk) 12:28, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The About Time series of books are not merely "a few articles", but a multi-volume critical history of Doctor Who. They are widely cited and discussed in scholarly analyses of the programme, such as Doctor Who and Philosophy and the works of Phil Sandifer. Clearly meets criterion #1 under WP:AUTHOR, "The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.". —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:48, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The nomination statement is at the very least disingenuous. Eric Corbett 11:17, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Multiple professional reviews have been posted to talk pages. This Whoniverse dispute seems to be getting more lame as time goes on. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:14, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: the talk page in question is Talk:Whoniverse#Notability of Tat Wood. (That might not be immediately clear to someone coming to this page for general AfD purposes.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 21:40, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I was the one who tagged this biography as being of questionable notability back in 2011, but based on what I've seen now I think he clears the (relatively low) bar set by WP:BIO. Mind you, that's only a judgement on whether this article should be kept, not on whether or not he should be used as a source in another article. (Disclosure: I was notified of this AFD by User:41.132.48.255 [40].) Robofish (talk) 22:29, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above arguments and trout slap for misleading AfD nom statement. Montanabw^(talk) 02:30, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AGF Eric Corbett and Montanabw. It was not my intent to be "disingenuous" or "misleading". G S Palmer (talk) 00:08, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wow, an link to an essay I've never seen before! Thanks very much! Eric Corbett 00:11, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! Glad to have been able to help expand your horizons! G S Palmer (talk) 15:52, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mild delete. I haven't followed the Whoniverse debate referenced above. I have, however, met Tat Wood on many occasions. This probably is sufficient bias for me not to contribute here! But, FWIW, I struggle to see how this article merits inclusion. There are no citations provided which are about Tat from a biographical perspective: this article can never expand beyond a stub because no such citations exist. The article has three citations: (1) is by his publisher, (2) says he edited a fanzine (does it say anything more than that?), and (3) is a fanzine article he wrote reproduced in a book of fanzine articles. That does not meet WP:GNG. The idea he meets WP:AUTHOR #1 presumes Dr Who fandom is a sufficiently large scholarly community for this to apply, and then you have to argue that Tat is considered an important figure in that community. Both of those seem very debatable to me. There are, I'm sure, several reviews and citations of the About Time series, but then have an article on them. But maybe age has turned me into a deletionist. ((Disclosure: I was also notified of this AFD by User:41.132.48.255. I don't know who this is, and I wonder whether they thought I'd rush here to say "keep"!) Bondegezou (talk) 19:23, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- PS: Referring to "Doctor Who and Philosophy and the works of Phil Sandifer" or the About Time series as scholarly, it seems to me, is pushing the definition of "scholarly". Doctor Who: The Unfolding Text is scholarly. About Time, Doctor Who and Philosophy and Sandifer's writings are popularisations targetted at a fan audience. Bondegezou (talk) 19:30, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The person who nominated the article for deletion failed to notify editors of its AfD status. I went through the edit history of both the Tat Wood article, as well as other related articles leaving messages for people who had edited there to take part in this AfD nomination, in order to get a fair, balanced consensus, rather than just 2 or 3 people. 41.132.48.255 (talk) 08:30, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:BIO in particular the sources given above. Article not perfect, but the analysis of his work in secondary sources does it for me. BennyHillbilly (talk) 09:35, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. WP:NPASR. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:18, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Difference United

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Contested PROD. No improvement since Dec. 2013. The only claim to fame is that they have music that has played on the radio, but there is no support for charting success. Not a notable band per WP:MUSICBIO. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Difference United has a verified fan base which exceeds 96,000 according to their official Facebook page.www.facebook.com/differenceunited

The band is currently ranked #4 on the Nashville Pop charts according to Reverbnation. "Nashville Pop Charts". ReverbNation. Retrieved 31 March 2014.

The band is cited as having toured internationally, which is verified by international media outlets and videos viewable via page references such as YouTube.The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata): Party fever after freezing splash - From ice-cold dips to gigs, Shillong & Guwahati plan big for year's last night."Difference United Xian China". Youtube. Retrieved 31 March 2014."Difference United India Tour Video". YouTube. Retrieved 31 March 2014."Difference United Chinese Television Promotion". YouTube. Retrieved 31 March 2014.

The band has gained national and international radio airplay of singles from both of its album releases as cited. Notability, while subjective, can clearly be measured in a tangible / verifiable way as it pertains to Difference United.http://www.crwradiopromotions.com/splay/differenceunited-iknow/

In reviewing Wikipedia notability guidelines for music it is clear that the following criteria pertaining to notability have been met as referenced above: "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.[note 4] Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.[note 5] Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network." Notability (music)

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I am not sure why this page is being considered for deletion. The criteria set forth in Wikipedia Notability Guidelines were raised upon the creation of the article and addressed at that time. "18:28, 24 April 2010‎ A little insignificant (talk | contribs)‎ . . (2,856 bytes) (-11)‎ . . (does not meet speedy criteria- notability is established and referenced.) (undo | thank)" [41] The reference material cited in the article establishes clear notability as indicated in the previous points raised in support of keeping the article. I also found the following additional references to their international tours in local media:

Aizawl India Public Concert "Difference United in Aizawl". Misual.com. Retrieved 31 March 2014.

Shillong India Public Concert "Shillong.com". Shillong.com. Retrieved 31 March 2014.

Calcutta India Newspaper Article Regarding Public Performance of Difference United "Dream Again with US band - Nashville-based Difference United to perform over weekend". http://www.telegraphindia.com. Retrieved 31 March 2014. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)

Difference United Romania Tour National Press Coverage "Difference Band Launches in Romania". curiernational.ro. Retrieved 31 March 2014. "Cultural Information in the Press". http://www.agenda.ro. Retrieved 31 March 2014. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help) ~~Myreasonwhy~~

Comment The reason the article is being nominated is that it clearly does not meet any of the notability guidelines. For bands they can be found at WP:BAND and in general, the information can be found at WP:GNG. Please restrict discussion to these notability guidelines or another related guideline.

"Nashville Pop charts according to Reverbnation" is not a national chart. See WP:GOODCHARTS to see accepted national charts. Similarly, "national and international radio airplay" is not the same as charting nationally.

A national tour would be something major, not church-to-church, small clubs and certainly not individual concert dates.

I also have serious concerns that users Musicnewsnashville and Myreasonwhy are both WP:SPAs and share the same editing style. I suspect that they may be socks. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:44, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment How many shows exactly would you consider to be something major? Of what size? Of what production quality? The concerts depicted in the video's referenced clearly show large crowds and major production elements including television crews. The international media outlets sourced outline multiple city tours not one off shows. Certainly for an act to have performed on three continents, to visibly large crowds, with corresponding radio airplay, and national print media coverage can be interpreted as noteworthy. I am also inserting a link to an press coverage album which contains multiple print newspaper articles not readily found online. [42] The press items are in the bottom album titled "Press".

In regards to your sock allegation and investigation notice referenced above I am not a prolific Wikipedia editor, as is obvious vis a vis my rudimentary editing skills. That said, I was brought into this discussion because of a deletion notice placed on my board as the creator of the original Difference United article and for no other reason. Myreasonwhy (talk) 21:47, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding of major would be filling large venues as the headline artist or a tour that brought the band into prominence in that country. Also, receiving non-trivial coverage in at least two important news sources discussing the tour. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One of the media outlets cited as a news source for the article is the Telegraph newspaper out of Calcutta India. This outlet is the second largest in the country of India as cited in the following Wikipedia article. It has a readership of 1.2 million + ^[1] Here is an additional stories from The Telegraph mentioning the Difference United performances on one of the groups two India tours. ^[2] Another cited source is the Curierul National which is a national Romanian newspaper distrubuted from the nations capital of Bucharest. ^[3] In addition the press link provided above contains most of the major papers in the city of Shillong India as indicated by ^[4] in the print media section. [43] The press items are in the bottom album titled "Press".

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^ "The Telegraph Newspaper Calcutta Wikipedia". https://en.wikipedia.org. Retrieved 1 April 2014. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
^ "Telegraph India Difference United Additional Article". http://www.telegraphindia.com. Retrieved 1 April 2014. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
^ "Curierul National Wikipedia Article". https://en.wikipedia.org. Retrieved 1 April 2014. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
^ "Shillong India Wikipedia Article". https://en.wikipedia.org. Retrieved 1 April 2014. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)

Do you understand the meaning of "fluff piece"? The article in The Telegraph, http://www.telegraphindia.com/1070330/asp/northeast/story_7581715.asp is not "non-trivial" and the concerts it describes, a series of free, open-air performances, certainly are trivial. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:51, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The chart they have charted on is not a major one like Billboard. The sources are all fluff pieces or unreliable content like Reverbnation or YouTube. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 21:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:18, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Steve McIntyre

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Non notable outside of industry publications. All references are to the Debian sources. If people want this to stay, then perhaps they need to provide some damn better sources fast. Otherwise, this needs to go. Non notable and **** poor referencing. Safiel (talk) 02:36, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. Please note that you are expected to make a reasonable effort to find reliable sources before listing an article for deletion. A quick web search turned up a couple of good-looking sources. I didn't find a ton to indicate notability hence the weak keep. -Iago Qnsi 13:10, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I did make a good search for sources prior to nominating. The links you give don't look so good to me. A blog and an opinion piece. No actual news story. Not enough to meet WP:GNG. With all due respect, I will maintain my delete position. Safiel (talk) 05:06, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

delete "Big in Debian". We need some comment from outside the tent, before we start passing WP:N. If he's becoming "the face of Debian" for some conferences or what have you that are broader than Debian, then that would count - but I'm not seeing it. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:07, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I'm a fan of the Debian project, but I really don't understand how anyone could think this article satisfies WP:NOTABILITY. The only reason this article exists is because Steve was once the Debian Project Leader, but that is not enough to be notable - it is Debian and its management hierarchy that is the notable thing here, not the individual. To satisfy WP:NOTABILITY, there needs to be significant coverage of McIntyre and his work (not the Debian project, but the man himself), and that coverage needs to be from secondary sources independent of the Debian project, and the coverage can not be simply covering events or news (like his election). This article fails WP:NOTABILITY on all of those accounts. Of the two new sources suggested above by IagoQnsi, one is a regurgitated press release covering a news event (the Debian election), and the other is a very short interview. The news event does not satisfy notability. The interview might, but there is no way that one single interview could be classed as "significant coverage". One final quote from Notability: "We require 'significant coverage' in reliable sources so that we can actually write a whole article, rather than half a paragraph or a definition of that topic. If only a few sentences could be written and supported by sources about the subject, that subject does not qualify for a separate page, but should instead be merged into an article about a larger topic or relevant list." In the seven years this article has existing, it has failed to expand beyond the "few sentences" stage. As McIntyre is no longer Debian Project Leader, and hasn't been for four years, it is highly unlikely that any new sources are going to appear that discuss him, his life, or his work. Chris Bainbridge (talk) 11:37, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Not enough significant coverage in reliable sources, it seems. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:17, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Phunckateck Communications

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Obscure "collective" (more like an amorphous group) with horrible sourcing. Orange Mike | Talk 02:16, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I posted a (second) PROD notice on the article today (not noticing the first one) and it was taken down. The person who removed it posted to the talk page saying that they, and others, had been listing references which noted the collective's significance. I see only one reference site (used four times) which is nothing but a database. Nothing signifying why the collective is notable as opposed to simply in existence. Since the first PROD notice, they've had nearly two weeks to make this article better but all it has become is a directory, which Wikipedia is not. The article fails notability standards under either WP:CORP and WP:MUSIC. Dismas|^(talk) 02:51, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'm not sure what Orange Mike has against this page, but I'll address his concerns. He said there is only one reference site. I count over ten - from print like The Knowledge Magazine reference, to several interviews with memebers, and other sources around the web. While I'll admit the references could be better included in the article and have their usage footnoted, that is hardly a reason for deletion. As far as "Nothing signifying why the collective is notable as opposed to simply in existence" - I don't understand this complaint when there is clearly laid out section titled "Significance and Influence" with numerous examples and points. I never got a notice of the first PROD, but someone else who clearly agrees with me addressed those concerns.Thedjchewie (talk) 15:11, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, actually that was me that said that there was really only one reference site, which there was: Discogs. So I looked at the references that were added recently to the "Significance and Influence" section that you mention. There are currently six references used in that section. Number 1, the Civic bulletin board which copy/pasted the article from a defunct magazine site, has basically a passing mention of Phunckateck. Basically their existence is confirmed but the article isn't about them, it's about something else, Drum and Bass essentially. The second, the Facebook posting in which I don't even see the word Phunckateck mentioned. Third, the Billboard magazine jpg which I can barely read but again seems to be more about UFO! and making passing mentions of Phunckateck. I could be wrong about this. It's hard to see. Fourth, again another passing mention which is more about UFO! and Drum and Bass than it is about Phunckateck. And then five and six are the same Civic bulletin board and Billboard magazine again. I just don't see the coverage of Phunckateck itself which justifies calling them notable. UFO! might well be notable enough for an article but for Phunckateck, it's just WP:TOOSOON. Dismas|^(talk) 23:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, the majority of the article talks specifically about Drum N Bass and not the collective themselves. Discogs.com is not a reliable source because it is based on user-submitted content. Also, thousands of mixtapes, songs and albums are released every day by unknown people but a release alone is not notable unless it charts or receives independent coverage. There is nothing in the referencing about specific releases nor about the collective itself in any kind of detail. Simply releasing material and existing is not notable. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 22:49, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Excuse me if I am not posting this information correctly, it's my first time. I would like to clarity that Phunckateck is the sum of its members. Meaning that the articles referenced do contain mentions of Phunckateck but the article's content relates to the members individual contributions and achievements as members of the Phunckateck collective. Individual references should be considered as contributions to the overall significance of Phunckateck. As UFO! is one of the founding members and is also still quite active as an artist/DJ/producer, his efforts would be more prominent in the general media coverage of this type of music. Furthermore, There is reference to a Phunckateck VIP remix that was contracted by Dieselboy, a very influential DJ in the genre. Major editing of the page was finally submitted just this morning so I'm not sure if some of these issues were addressed or not. If you can suggest any specific copy edits or other ways to help improve the page, that would be very helpful.99.7.8.22 (talk) 01:40, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

reply - I'm sorry, 99.7, but it doesn't work that way. If there are not articles in reliable sources that substantially discuss Phunckateck Communications as a named entity, then there is no subject matter notable enough to sustain an encyclopedia article. Phunckateck can't derive notability from the notability of persons who belong(ed) to it or are/were associated with it: "notability is not contagious". --Orange Mike | Talk 01:53, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: That is not how I read WP:BAND. Criterion #6 specifically says that an ensemble may derive notability from multiple notable members. Note that I am not currently arguing Keep or Delete. To qualify under WP:BAND #6, we would need to establish for one that this is a performing ensemble in its own right, rather than a looser confederation or group of friends, and of course that multiple members are indeed themselves notable (and that they are actual members rather than associates; "rumored" doesn't cut it here). If those are established, I would consider it a "keep" per that criterion. — Gwalla | Talk 03:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
reply As I said above, UFO! may be notable enough for an article but the collective doesn't seem to be. Dismas|^(talk) 03:53, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Doesn't meet the criteria at WP:BAND; lacks multiple notable members (and even UFO! is debatable), international tours, etc. Doesn't appear to be notable in its own right. Barefooted chick (talk) 02:47, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 15:40, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Kingdom Keepers

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~~This series likely fails to meet WP:NOTABILITY and WP:NBOOK. The few reviews I can find are either very brief or self-published (e.g. blogs). --Animalparty-- (talk) 01:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC)~~ I no longer support delete (see below) --Animalparty-- (talk) 19:17, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Like the nom stated there are a lot of reviews (on the individual books in the series), but no major criticisms or commentaries on the series as a whole. The books are already thoroughly mentioned on the author's page (Ridley Pearson) and covered extensively on The DisneyWiki. I believe the first book did win a Florida state award in 2005, but no major literary awards. In the series' favor, I did find this NY Times article which discusses a new Disney approach to interactive media and briefly discusses how the series plays into that approach; it made the NY Times bestseller list (not sure this helps); and this mention in the Washington Post. Resources seem kind of thin for inclusion. EBstrunk18 (talk) 19:50, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I've done a re-write of the whole page, essentially, and I've found enough coverage to warrant a keep. I would recommend putting the character section on its own page at List of The Kingdom Keepers characters, as it's an extremely long section and there's precedent for similar lists at places such as List of American Horror Story characters. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:29, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Definite keep Nice work Tokyogirl79! EBstrunk18 (talk) 16:10, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is a detailed, referenced article about a young adult book series like Harry Potter. Sure, there is room for improvement but every article on WP could be improved and it's clear this one is being worked on and developed. I don't see any good reason why this article should be deleted. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:02, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: as the original nominator for deletion, I've been convinced of the notability of the series. The merge of individual books to the main article seems prudent, and I also support a separation of characters into List of The Kingdom Keepers characters, to keep the article more centered in the real-world.--Animalparty-- (talk) 19:14, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to go ahead and branch that out to another page. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:10, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep, withdrawn by the nominator (non-admin closure). Anupmehra -Let's talk! 23:03, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Fertik

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Article has been marked for notability concerns for three years. I note that the current page relies heavily on primary sources, extremely low-quality sources and sources that are better-incorporated into the Reputation.com article. Quick searches do not reveal any indication he meets the bar for an article. CorporateM (Talk) 01:31, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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MERGE, a lot of this person's notability is inherited from the Reputation.com article. It would be better suited to be redirected and merged there. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 22:46, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP Google suggests there's a recent NYTimes article about him that hasn't been incorporated. Fix and keep?BennyHillbilly (talk) 09:38, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
COMMENT It appears there were concerns about the quality of sources. As a start, I have added three New York Times articles about the subject (each with a photo that is not properly licensed for use here). I am abstaining from voting due to a non-financial COI, but I hope the new sources have improved the article.Sunnymale (talk) 07:31, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That helps, but it looks like the New York Times sources are Q&As or tips-focused. They do help establish that he has attracted notice from reliable sources, but they don't provide much content for the article. CorporateM (Talk) 13:32, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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COMMENT I think CorporateM raises some good points, so I have further updated the article. Again, I have a declared non-financial COI so I'm not going to vote, but I believe CorporateM's issues have been addressed. As to notability, the article now links to articles about Fertik in the New York Times, Forbes, The Chicago Sun-Times, and a few others, plus some TV profiles (such as 20/20). That should be enough under WP:BIO to show multiple reliable independent sources (full articles with photos about him in more than 3 national print publications plus some TV), but there's also the role in World Economic Forum, the book he published, and his columns for Inc., HBR blogs, and the Washington Post. Each of those (WEF, bestselling book, columns) doesn't prove notability by itself, but in combination it should get across the hump under the secondary WP:BIO criteria even without the publications. As to the quality of sources, I agree that it wasn't great originally. I've tried to add profiles from third-party sources (Businessweek, Inc., Harvard Magazine, etc.) on major facts. I don't think it's perfectly sourced yet, but it's at least improving. Sunnymale (talk) 10:24, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like he may in fact meet the bar. I'm going to give the article a once-through and see what we have. CorporateM (Talk) 14:19, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP: I withdraw my nomination. Sunnymale has provided adequate sources to validate his notability. Additionally, the sources say that he pioneered the field of online reputation management, that he has won a notable award, and they include details like where he went to college that are not appropriate for a merge to the company page. I will do some more work on it to make sure it complies with our standards. CorporateM (Talk) 14:47, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 00:58, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tanya Holland

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Not yet notable , and so highly promotional that it needs to be deleted and started over in any case. As for notability: she has written one book, found in 124 libraries a/c Worldcat, which is trivial for an important cookbook. (There's another due out in 2014, mentioned prominently in the introduction, and perhaps the advance publicity for it is not unrelated to the appearance of this article.) She's made many talk show appearances, and worked in a great variety of restaurants, some of them well-known. I do not see that she is principally responsible for the cuisine of any notable restaurant. Most of the prizes are very minor, and local, tho I will admit local prizes in SF have a relatively high value, as local prizes go.

As for promotionalism, besides an early biography suitable more for someone of much greater renown, is the inclusion of the recipes she has reprinted elsewhere and her talk show appearances, and all the magazines she has written articles for. It includes the names of all the more famous people and places for whom she has worked--a technique usually called name-dropping.

Accepted by AfC, as is common for this type of article. When I urge the deletion of such articles, I try not to just say "non-notable and promotional" in general terms, but to give specifically the lack of indications of notability , and the specific indications of promotionalism DGG ( talk ) 01:20, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - She hosted a show on Food Network. All together, it seems like she is a relatively prominent chef. Bali88 (talk) 01:29, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - What she did is not important, it is her notability that is needed to be proven. I simply followed the Google link provided and discovered several articles that are about her from such reliable sources such as the San Francisco Gate, Food and Wine magazine and others. She has also been featured on Oprah, CBS, PBS and other networks. These aren't reprinted recipes, but articles and interviews about the woman. Those sources easily establish notability. Now the article is another problem, it is overly promotional but it does not need to be deleted. A good editor is what is needed, not an AfD. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 08:37, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, there is coverage about her life and professional career. She appears on a national TV network. If that's not being int he public eye (in her field) then I'm not sure what is. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 22:44, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, if any chefs can be notable, she's on the short list BennyHillbilly (talk) 09:40, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Tawker (talk) 19:36, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2014 Boston Brownstone Fire

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Per WP:NOTNEWS, there are thousands of residential fires around the world each week. No reason at all that this, albeit tragic, event is desrving of an article. Step hen 01:00, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I'm not seeing a reason this relatively minor fire(if tragic due to the loss of the firefighters) should have an article of its own; no large numbers of casualties, and no widespread or significant damage(like a large portion of a city being damaged). 331dot (talk) 01:42, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Boston Fire Department#Beacon Street Fire A local story with firefighter casualties would be more appropriate for the main BFD article than broken out on its own. Nate • (chatter) 01:54, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fires that kill a couple of people are, unfortunately, very common. There will no doubt be lots of press coverage at the moment in the area concerned, but this is not an event of enduring notability. I would not object to a redirect as proposed above, however. Neljack (talk) 02:30, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment What is it that the Yarnell Hill Fire has that this one doesn't? And don't give me that "Otherstuffexists" bullshit, there's no question that the Yarnell Hill fire article is notable. Is it just that this was a routine, ho-hum, run of the mill nine-alarm house fire that just so happened to kill 2 firefighters, hospitalize 16 other people and prompt the city of Boston to hold the firefighters' funeral? And if it's so common, why didn't any other Boston firefighters die on the job in the preceding five years? Now to be clear, I'm very much on the fence with regard to notability here, and would probably be OK with a redirect as proposed above. However I'm not convinced by all these editors whipping out their crystal balls and then declaring that people will forget about this in a few weeks or so. Also, the stories compiled at this link should debunk any claims that this hasn't gotten much coverage outside "the area concerned." Jinkinson talk to me 02:46, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A significantly higher death toll. Neljack (talk) 03:23, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the Yarnell Hill Fire has a great deal of analysis in secondary sources. Abductive (reasoning) 15:34, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It's absolutely ignorant to question whether to delete an article based on the casualties in other words how many people died. Even though Im the one who created this article I support Jinkinson with, its very unlikely for a Firefighter to die on the job. Like he said its been five years since a death before this fire. Also I support in keeping this article because even though theirs fire's every week around the world, its unlikely for a Firefighter to die and if so would gain as much publicity as this article would. User:EK728 3:11, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

It is not "ignorant"; casualties are an indication of notability. If every residential fire with two deaths merited an article, we would have thousands more articles. I am not opposed to a redirect. 331dot (talk) 04:10, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as Nate says. G S Palmer (talk) 04:02, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This fire has received more attention than any other Boston fire in the last 8 years(trends link just 1 source out of many possible). This will continue to be in the news as investigations are undertaken and reports are issued. After some considerable cleanup I believe this article will have considerable encyclopedic value like the majority of other fire articles on Wikipedia, providing information on what went wrong here and how it can be avoided in the future. It's comparatively small sure, but so are most 'disasters' that the US focuses intensely on for very long periods of time. It will also probably have to be moved to Beacon Street Fire instead of Brownstone Fire. It can always be deleted later if it truly fizzles out. Varixai (talk) 05:07, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This fire is not even close to the scale of those fires. 331dot (talk) 11:01, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Boston Fire Department#Beacon Street Fire, this fire has had an impact yes but there is nothing I can see being notable other than news coverage. As stated above around the world there are many fires with sad outcomes and although built in 1889, the brownstone is not labeled as historical but will be saved. Nothing in the reliable sources given stands out as being notable. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 11:23, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep Changed my opinion to keep based on User:Jinkinson's finding, see my comment below. Coverage has been ongoing for days now. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:15, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or Redirect, tragic and of local interest does not mean it deserves an article. Abductive (reasoning) 15:31, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:ONEEVENT. The notion that the article could be deleted if it "truly fizzles out" is exactly backwards: the subject might qualify for an article, a few years down the road, if it stands the test of time. It's hardly callous to point out that there are many fires, around the world, in which firefighters die. Boston alone has nearly a hundred and fifty occasions when firefighters have died in the line of duty, according to the BFD website. Should this subject gain an enduring impact -- and we can't tell that for a year or two -- the issue can be revisited then. Ravenswing 20:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, it has nothing to do with millions of residential fires happening every week. Its more to do with the fact that is WP:NOTNEWS. Whilst the loss of life is regrettable there's nothing substantial in this article, plus parts of it look paraphrased. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 22:43, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Very sad, but where's the WP:LASTING significance? As others have noted, events like this are common in firefighting. Tragic for those affected, but not unusual enough to meet WP:EVENT. --BDD (talk) 19:53, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have added a section to this article (the funeral section), so I think that now, there is something substantial in this article. Also, I thought it might be helpful to put the two deaths caused by this fire into further perspective by noting that 22 firefighters died in 2012 during fireground operations. [44] Jinkinson talk to me 23:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Some of you guys made an article bout some shooting at Fort Hood today, four dead. This one has two dead. Not a big difference plus its more of an honor thing to the people who died serving our country then creating some article bout a terrorists attack. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TwoFace728 (talk • contribs) 07:38, 3 April 2014 (UTC) Strike sock of indeffed article creator Step hen 09:45, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Has not received significant coverage outside of short news cycle. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 19:18, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The funerals are receiving a lot of attention [45] 10,000 firefighters is a big number. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:08, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - it is an unusual fire that has received unusual amounts of attention as indicated by the sources and comments above. At worst, it is a case for merge+redirect - certainly no reason for the fire not to be covered at the department's page. --ThaddeusB (talk) 01:31, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, the story continues to receive wide national (and not just local and regional) attention than is typical for stories of this type. E.g. here is a sample of national coverage just for today: LA Times [46], Wash Post [47], CNN[48], FoxNews[49], etc. Also, apparently this event has already lead to a change in the Massachusetts legislation, see [50]. Nsk92 (talk) 03:13, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 07:06, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Till Death Do Us Part: Love, Marriage and the Mind of the Killer Spouse

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Doesn't meet WP:NBOOK. Mikeblas (talk) 00:34, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete because it doesn't have any sources. G S Palmer (talk) 03:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no sources, and no text to give me any reason to read it as anything other than WP:PROMOTIONAL GRUcrule (talk) 14:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - appears to be promotional with no substantial or 3rd party coverage. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 22:41, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I can't find anything meaningful in Google and there's no sources on the page of any use.BennyHillbilly (talk) 09:42, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. WP:NPASR. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:16, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Council for Higher Education in Newark

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The individual institutions are certainly notable. The very loose consortium is another matter. It's only possible notable project is University Heights Science Park; if so, an article should be written about it. The high school long pre-existed the consortium--the connection is that it moved into a new building in science park.

Another highly promotional article accepted from AfC. (I've been concentrating on these lately, in the hope of raising standards there.) DGG ( talk ) 00:05, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Why not support development of the article to cover the Science Park initiative, to be a combo article about CHEN the consortium and its projects, which apparently include the Science Park and the high school? This could be advocated at the Talk page of the article. With links to other articles about science parks, with possibly inviting other editors to help develop it. The article does not seem promotional, it is not promoting anything commercial anyhow. Is the goal with this AFD to get rid of the article or to spur development? It seems intimidating to AFD it, and it kinda seems wrong to AFD it when the nominator acknowledges there is a worth topic within it (the science park) that could simply be developed further. --do ncr am 15:41, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep So, with no one else commenting, to be consistent with my own comment, i !vote Keep to resolve this AFD. --do ncr am 01:38, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Article needs cleanup, but AfD != cleanup, notability isn't the issue here Tawker (talk) 19:34, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Notable, even tho a single state. But entirely promotional in style:i t exactly resembles what the program might want as a press release.:No outside sources--everything is from the department.

Talks only about their success, not on any lack of success--one would assume all the programs did 100% of what they were supposed to. Emphasis on exact eligibility requirements--these details are relevant only for prospective enrollees,not general readers. Talks about details of funding and exact differentiation from allied programs in bureaucratic detail, listing each state code section. Some things are missing: information about the basic question of how the services are actually delivered: do they fund existing health service, fund new ones, provide specific programs, provide health care directly; public acceptance, or any information showing uptake or effectiveness.--but those are probably the main things the public might want to know.

The distinction between encyclopedic writing and promotionalism is that promotionalism writes about what the organization want to say, but encyclopedic writing is about what the public might want to find out in an encyclopedia.

Finally, written in bullet points, not paragraphs, and ending in a optimistic but out of date section about prospects for the future. DGG ( talk ) 00:00, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The nominator directly stated the article is notable. The main basis for deletion is that the article does not include all relevant pieces of information, which is an issue that should be solved by adding the needed information. All of the issues listed can be fixed through editing.Spirit of Eagle (talk) 01:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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speedy keep, this article is well referenced. incomplete information IS NOT a deletion criteria. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 22:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep. Notable, sourced. DGG, i like your seeking to have articles improved, but shouldn't this just be tagged for improvement. I'm not sure how you can bring it to general attention. Perhaps a post at WikiProject California? But then most WikiProjects are pretty dead now. It is not for AFD participants to do the improvement, though. --do ncr am 17:00, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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