Talk:A&W Restaurants

Should it be mentioned that far more people know about the root beer, instead of the restaurant? (Would this be true?) [[User:Rhymeless|Rhymeless | (Methyl Remiss)]] 22:46, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Heh. I always thought A&W stood for "Amburgers and Wootbeer". :)

Canadian menu

I cut half this ****** thing out; for a start I don't know how much applies outside Canada, and even if it does, it was tediously longwinded, describing every ******* minor variant (separate entries for "Bacon 'n' Egger", "Sausage 'n' Egger") and even portion sizes. It took up half the **** article on its own, and that was for just one country! #$^#$^#$^#$!!!!!

(At this stage Fourohfour's expletive-censoring machine blows up).

It's still horribly long, and probably needs cut back further. The article should note the major products sold throughout the world, as well as notable special cases. However, adding this much unimportant detail is a prime example of Wikipedia "fact bloat".

Really, I know I'm getting annoyed and mean-spirited about this, but can't people stop and think whether adding such bloat really benefits the article?

Fourohfour 14:32, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Menu Items

I'm NetStormer, the one who made all that long winded "bloat". I can see your obvious frustration, but as a fairly new person to this site, I just wanted to make sure that it was complete. I do see that a lot of it could have been toned down.

The only reason it was completed like that is because I work in an A&W restaurant, and I know exactly how everything is made. I now realize that completeness doesn't mean every trivial detail.

NetStormer 20:54, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry for being such a git about it; particularly as you're a newbie. To some extent, this expressed my frustration with other articles as well. My general annoyance was that some articles have a tendency to build up masses of minor and semi-inconsequential details which hide the woods from the trees.

However, as you can probably see by going through my edit history, I'm just as capable of being as longwinded as some of the things that annoy me. Oops... :-/

Whilst I still think the list could have been shorter and more concisely-expressed, I've nothing against it in principle, and this seems like a good starting point for a list of relatively common A&W items.

A list of the current length would probably be fine if it could cover A&W worldwide, dropping some of the more minor details, and intelligently merging the new stuff (instead of just adding new entries). That needs people who know about them to put them in, so it's probably fine just now.

Anyhow, having ranted above... if people wanted a "complete" (up to a point) list, it could be created as a separate article if necessary.

Fourohfour 21:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I moved NetStormer's new list to a separate article pretty much "as is". As a list, it's fine, but I still feel long lists (i.e. reference) are better kept separate from the body of the article. If it was going to be separate anyway, having its own article at least gives it space to grow (since others will probably wish to add to it) whilst keeping the parent at reasonable size.

BTW, I assume that the menu mentioned in the list is Canadian (Netstormer is Canadian, poutine is *definitely* Canadian!) Fourohfour 13:56, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Oops... should have read "New A&W Menu Page" below; this is what happens when I work through my watchlist in strict chronological order :-/ Fourohfour 14:00, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

International - United Kingdom

I have been unable to find a KFC in Ashton-Under-Lyne, I'm hoping (and praying) that someone sheds some light on the whereabouts of an A&W restaurant nearby... Thanks in advance

International - Indonesia

A&W Restaurants are also in Indonesia. Unfortunatly I have no further information about the amount or when the first restaurant opened. But it would be nice if someone could add it to the main article.

New A&W Menu Page

I was thinking, that maybe for the menu section, we could make a new page for it. On it, we could possibly put a list of the burgers (like we have now) as well as a chart for availablilty in different countries. I know what the canadian restaurants have, but I've no clue about the American ones nor any that are overseas. Just an idea... if anyone wants to help, that'd be appreciated. NetStormer 01:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

This idea kinda fell through.... blech! menu page was deleted about a week after creation. NetStormer 21:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Oops... I'm really sorry, I didn't read this until after I'd moved your stuff to a menu page. Worst comes to the worst we can restore it in the main article. Was there an AfD for it or something? Fourohfour 13:59, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

No... I don't believe so... There was a pop up box that said "this article is flagged for deletion, and will be deleted in 7 days, blah, blah, blah" type of thing... What I did with that page is I included everything that we had on the menu portion itself, and added an "availability chart" that took up WAY too much room. I'm not bummed out that it's been deleted... I just don't like the idea of my articles being deleted. NetStormer 01:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)