Talk:Nirvana (band)

Posthumous releases

We have mentioned the 20th anniversary editions of Nevermind and In Utero, but we really should include a mention of both Live at the Paramount and Live and Loud being released as standalone DVD's. They are as significant as Unplugged or Live at Reading being released on DVD.QuintusPetillius (talk) 16:21, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Everman

Everman's name was on Bleach as a regular member. Yes, I know he didn't actually play on the recordings, but typically someone is considered a band member if their name is on the album. He wasn't listed as a "touring member", either. - Who is John Galt? ✉ 16:22, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Forgot to add Pat Smear as Current Member

He was rhythm guitar on tour. Or does that not count? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2610:130:115:A00:7500:CC8D:F696:A8F3 (talk) 05:02, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

You can see previous discussions in the archives here. It wasn't forgotten.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 11:56, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2014

Pat Smear was an official member, not just a touring one, by 1994. He was asked to join the band as a full member prior to the In Utero Tour (1993-1994). He did not record 'In Utero' with the band, but he did plan to record the next record with them. I think he needs to be included on the membership timeline, and his name switched from "Touring Members" to "Final Line-up." Thanks. 72.204.146.32 (talk) 22:03, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Smear joined as a touring member, not as an official in-the-band member. Whatever was intended for the future is academic, as it (obviously) never came to pass. Tarc (talk) 22:39, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I can certainly understand both sides. As a Pat fan, I would have loved to have seen him officially added prior the band's demise. Could a compromise be that he and Lori are added on the "Timeline" but still listed as touring members? - Hosh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.197.183.131 (talk) 04:50, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Nirvana Reunion

Krist Novoselic thanked Lorde, Joan Jett, and others for playing with Nirvana on his Twitter. He called it Nirvana. https://twitter.com/KristNovoselic/status/454485425697341440

Also The Doors and Led Zeppelin list their Hall of Fame performances in the 'Reunion' subcategory, Nirvana not only played at the Hall of Fame but played a full length show as well. It definitely belongs in the 'Reunion' subcategory if The Doors and Led Zeppelin's one off reunions are listed. I'm not saying to alter the 1987-1994 timeline, but their needs to be a 'Reunion: 2014' under it. Regardless of if Nirvana performing without Kurt upsets you or not, it did happen.

Then go fix the other articles if they are erroneous. "Nirvana" did not perform at the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame last week; Novoselic and Grohl performed Nirvana songs with guest leads, that is all. Tarc (talk) 02:56, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Tarc is right, Nirvana did not reform, and even if they did, it was not lengthy enough to mention in the infobox. STATic message me! 03:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it was a reunion. Doesn't mean it'll happen again, but it was. I was there. It should say 1987-1994, (small text) 2014 reunion. Also, Pat played both shows, therefore he should have , 2014 next to his. Every article I've read says "Nirvana" played. Here's one: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/nirvana-reunite-kiss-remain-civil-at-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-20140411

And another: http://www.nme.com/news/nirvana/76724

It was a reunion: says Grohl. "We're family, no matter what. And we all love each other, no matter what. It's a lot bigger than a paragraph or a picture. It's real. So it was a reunion, and we were there for Kurt. It was a beautiful night. It was good."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-inside-story-of-nirvanas-one-night-only-reunion-20140416#ixzz2z5N8SUja

I'm not opposed to a paragraph or so noting that remaining members did reunite for a show, but I don't think a single show warrants a change to the "years active". Many actually considered the 12/12/12 show to be a reunion; but again it was merely an isolated event, with no enduring band members, ensuing tour, or album. — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:14, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

A paragraph would be fine in the "Aftermath and posthumous releases" section, no probs there at all. Tarc (talk) 21:25, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

 Comment: Moving post here on behalf of User:BWRBrett, as follows. I linked to Talk:Nirvana in my edit summary, my mistake!

Nirvana performed 2 times last week. They performed 4 songs on Thursday at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and a full 19 song set at the St. Vitus club on Friday. Nirvana members Krist Novoselic and Dave Grohl have referred to these as Nirvana reunion performances in a new interview with Rolling Stone http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-inside-story-of-nirvanas-one-night-only-reunion-20140416. I propose that in small characters under, like on the Led Zeppelin/The Doors/Pink Floyd pages, we have a (Reunion: 2014) under the main 1987-1994 timeline, like those bands do. I wouldn't propose to change it to 2014-Present unless they announce more performances, but 2 shows definitely constitutes a reunion, especially with the band members referring to them as Nirvana reunion performances.

BWRBrett (talk) 21:49, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

I was not aware of the Saint Vitus performance, which is a real shame because I don't live far from there. 19 songs is certainly a proper concert, but it being with Joan Jett and Kim Gordon, it seems more like a novelty reunion than a true one. I guess it boils down to what you really consider a reunion to be. Let's see what others have to say. — MusikAnimal ^talk 22:07, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Alice In Chains first reunited in 2005 with several guest singers, and it is listed as an active year. I'm not even suggesting changing 1987-1994 yet to add 2014-Present, but to add a small text (Reunion: 2014) under the main timeline like you see for the one off Led Zeppelin and The Doors reunions on Wikipedia (which include guests performing in place of dead members, like Nirvana) is what would be very accurate. It doesn't really matter what anybody's opinion on the legitimacy of Nirvana performing without Cobain is, Nirvana members Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic explicitly called it a Nirvana reunion in the Rolling Stone piece I linked to. Quotes from the article:

"Hearing what it sounded like when we played 'Scentless Apprentice' legitimized it for me. I'd almost forgotten what it was like to be in a room full of Nirvana. That first day back really legitimized it. I was like, 'Oh, that's right! We sounded like this, and that's why people paid attention." -Dave Grohl

Another Grohl quote calling it Nirvana:

The original plan was to end the night with an all-star jam on AC/DC's "Highway To Hell," but the E Street Band went long on their speeches and the night had gone past curfew. "They expected Nirvana to learn that song," says Grohl. "It's hard enough for Nirvana to learn a fucking Nirvana song."

It's different from McCartney since they not only performed Nirvana material, but called it Nirvana. It's been one of the biggest stories in music in the last week.

I agree, a simple "small text" box that says "2014 Reunion" - Josh