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Evolution is just a theory not a fact it's a religion just as creationism so to have a neutral point of view both should be allowed. Also evolution does not have a enough evidence to prove it's true creationism has as much prove as Evolution if not more.{{unsigned|Hwahl90}} |
Evolution is just a theory not a fact it's a religion just as creationism so to have a neutral point of view both should be allowed. Also evolution does not have a enough evidence to prove it's true creationism has as much prove as Evolution if not more.{{unsigned|Hwahl90}} |
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:Whatever you want to believe, that's simply not what mainstream science has concluded based on experimentation and observation (such as the [[E. coli long-term evolution experiment]], [[Peppered moth evolution]], and fossil records). [[WP:Wikipedia:Fringe#Examples|Wikipedia regards "creation science" and "intelligent design" as fringe ideas]], following mainstream science. Believe whatever you want, but know that [[WP:NOTSOAPBOX|Wikipedia will not support you in attempting to promote those beliefs]], and [[WP:GEVAL|is opposed to giving equal validity]] and [[WP:UNDUE|equal weight]] to ideas rejected by mainstream science. All of those blue words? Those are links to the site policies that represent the collective will of the community, and proof that you will be quickly blocked for trying to promote any sort of belief system. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson|talk]]) 18:51, 20 July 2014 (UTC) |
:Whatever you want to believe, that's simply not what mainstream science has concluded based on experimentation and observation (such as the [[E. coli long-term evolution experiment]], [[Peppered moth evolution]], and fossil records). [[WP:Wikipedia:Fringe#Examples|Wikipedia regards "creation science" and "intelligent design" as fringe ideas]], following mainstream science. Believe whatever you want, but know that [[WP:NOTSOAPBOX|Wikipedia will not support you in attempting to promote those beliefs]], and [[WP:GEVAL|is opposed to giving equal validity]] and [[WP:UNDUE|equal weight]] to ideas rejected by mainstream science. All of those blue words? Those are links to the site policies that represent the collective will of the community, and proof that you will be quickly blocked for trying to promote any sort of belief system. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson|talk]]) 18:51, 20 July 2014 (UTC) |
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We can agree to disgree. But we live in a free country where theres not just one theory and Wikipedia is a neutral place and so they both should be allowed. |
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Your recent editing history at Living dinosaur shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
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Wikipedia and copyright
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Living dinosaurs
Besides the copyright violation, the unencyclopedic tone, and the fact that your source fails WP:RS for any claim that dinosaurs lived with men, Wikipedia relies basically on mainstream sources for its articles. It represents significant minority views as per WP:UNDUE and WP:FRINGE but it will never assert as fact that dinosaurs lived with men. If you can't accept that perhaps you should be editing elsewhere. Dougweller (talk) 07:31, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does not re-post copyrighted material in its articles, even with permission. Mainstream science regards evolution as a theory in the same way that gravity is "just a theory." In science, a theory is an idea that has enough evidence that there's not really any other plausible explanation. Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution. Non-evolutionary creationism is a poorly evidenced hypothesis (not a theory), really just an ideological rejection of mainstream science and pretense that religion and science are opposed when they aren't. As such, non-evolutionary creationism is treated as fringe and we do not give it equal validity with evolution. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:53, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Evolution is just a theory not a fact it's a religion just as creationism so to have a neutral point of view both should be allowed. Also evolution does not have a enough evidence to prove it's true creationism has as much prove as Evolution if not more.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hwahl90 (talk • contribs)
- Whatever you want to believe, that's simply not what mainstream science has concluded based on experimentation and observation (such as the E. coli long-term evolution experiment, Peppered moth evolution, and fossil records). Wikipedia regards "creation science" and "intelligent design" as fringe ideas, following mainstream science. Believe whatever you want, but know that Wikipedia will not support you in attempting to promote those beliefs, and is opposed to giving equal validity and equal weight to ideas rejected by mainstream science. All of those blue words? Those are links to the site policies that represent the collective will of the community, and proof that you will be quickly blocked for trying to promote any sort of belief system. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:51, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
We can agree to disgree. But we live in a free country where theres not just one theory and Wikipedia is a neutral place and so they both should be allowed.