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== Able Archer 83 == |
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Hi. You recently made an edit to the [[Able Archer 83]] Article saying it was a 10-day exercise starting on 2 November 83 rather than a 5-day exercise starting on 7 November. |
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I think you may be confusing the scenario with the exercise itself. Exercises have a scenario as a context, explaining what has (for purposes of the exercise) been assumed to have been happening. It sets the stage for the exercise itself. In this case, the scenario began with (fictional) events on 2 November through 6 November which led up to the exercise itself that began on 7 November and continued through 11 November. |
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I refer you to the quotation from the SHAPE historian, Dr. Gregory Pedlow, at the bottom of the section on "Exercise Able Archer 83" in the Article, that explains the war game: |
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"The exercise scenario began with Orange (the hypothetical opponent) opening hostilities in all regions of ACE on 4 November (three days before the start of the exercise) and Blue (NATO) declaring a general alert. Orange initiated the use of chemical weapons on 6 November and by the end of that day had used such weapons throughout ACE. All of these events had taken place prior to the start of the exercise and were simply part of the written scenario. There had thus been three days of fighting and a deteriorating situation prior to the start of the exercise. This was desired because — as previously stated — the purpose of the exercise was to test procedures for transitioning from conventional to nuclear operations. As a result of Orange advance, its persistent use of chemical weapons, and its clear intentions to rapidly commit second echelon forces, SACEUR requested political guidance on the use of nuclear weapons early on Day 1 of the exercise (7 November 1983)..." |
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Note that he explicitly says that the events before 7 November "had taken place prior to the start of the exercise and were simply part of the written scenario." He also explicitly notes that Day 1 of the exercise was 7 November 1983. |
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I am aware that some second-and third-hand sources make the same error of confusing the scenario with the exercise, but according to SHAPE it was a 5-day exercise starting on 7 November. |
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May I recommend that you correct your edit yourself? Or, if you have good authority showing that the SHAPE historian was in error, perhaps you could provide it. |
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Thanks. [[User:D.A.Timm|D.A.Timm]] ([[User talk:D.A.Timm|talk]]) 09:28, 9 August 2014 (UTC) |
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Able Archer 83
Hi. You recently made an edit to the Able Archer 83 Article saying it was a 10-day exercise starting on 2 November 83 rather than a 5-day exercise starting on 7 November.
I think you may be confusing the scenario with the exercise itself. Exercises have a scenario as a context, explaining what has (for purposes of the exercise) been assumed to have been happening. It sets the stage for the exercise itself. In this case, the scenario began with (fictional) events on 2 November through 6 November which led up to the exercise itself that began on 7 November and continued through 11 November.
I refer you to the quotation from the SHAPE historian, Dr. Gregory Pedlow, at the bottom of the section on "Exercise Able Archer 83" in the Article, that explains the war game:
"The exercise scenario began with Orange (the hypothetical opponent) opening hostilities in all regions of ACE on 4 November (three days before the start of the exercise) and Blue (NATO) declaring a general alert. Orange initiated the use of chemical weapons on 6 November and by the end of that day had used such weapons throughout ACE. All of these events had taken place prior to the start of the exercise and were simply part of the written scenario. There had thus been three days of fighting and a deteriorating situation prior to the start of the exercise. This was desired because — as previously stated — the purpose of the exercise was to test procedures for transitioning from conventional to nuclear operations. As a result of Orange advance, its persistent use of chemical weapons, and its clear intentions to rapidly commit second echelon forces, SACEUR requested political guidance on the use of nuclear weapons early on Day 1 of the exercise (7 November 1983)..."
Note that he explicitly says that the events before 7 November "had taken place prior to the start of the exercise and were simply part of the written scenario." He also explicitly notes that Day 1 of the exercise was 7 November 1983.
I am aware that some second-and third-hand sources make the same error of confusing the scenario with the exercise, but according to SHAPE it was a 5-day exercise starting on 7 November.
May I recommend that you correct your edit yourself? Or, if you have good authority showing that the SHAPE historian was in error, perhaps you could provide it.
Thanks. D.A.Timm (talk) 09:28, 9 August 2014 (UTC)