User talk:Czarkoff

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Thanks

Greetings.

I wanted to thank you about the good job with {{Infobox OS}}. It was swift and efficient. (People might have told you that it was not perfect because you paid too much attention to unimportant details; maybe, but overall, there was a lot of wisdom and teamwork in the whole thing.)

Fleet Command (talk) 06:18, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for dropping this comment! — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 08:16, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Pleasure is all mine. :) I wish I could participate in the discussion and help. Too bad I didn't know about it. But if you ever got engaged in something computing that needed more input please drop me a note. I might see it and lend a hand. Fleet Command (talk) 18:36, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

@FleetCommand: FWIW there is an ongoing discussion at Template talk:Infobox software#removal of hardcoded image px sizes (the title is misleading: discussion is about switching default image size definitions from pixels to factions of image size as defined in users' preferences. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 19:02, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Well, yes, I'd say both you and CL need some help there. Both of you are seeing the light of the proper course of action, but not the entire path.

Knowing politics in Wikipedia has some perks: Once upon a time there was an image in Windows Media Player showing WMP playing a video of a woman. I took the image to FFD and argued that it would be wrong and perhaps against copyright to show the woman in the image. But the image was kept, after a painful week of me discussing. Two years later, I renominated that image, but this time I said: "This image is in violation of WP:NFCC#3a." That image was not even dignified with an FFD. It was deleted straightforward.

Same goes for you: Your half-hearted "Wrong forum" proclamation was a magnanimous showing of the correct way to them. But it was wrong, because it failed to capture the immediate support of CL and made NH think you are using a technicality to deny him of his rightful right to enforce the Manual of Style. You must instead have posted (or immediately post) the following and let them find out about centralized discussion for themselves:

Not done: Firstly, Wikipedia:Manual of Style § Size and Wikipedia:Image use policy § Displayed image size are evidently talking about use of individual images in thumbnail format in the article, not this special use – or any other special use. Secondly, use of 300px is in force by an overriding policy: Wikipedia:Consensus § Reaching consensus through editing. Before 16 June 2013, articles had individually implemented 300px. An administrator then observed this wide consensus and enforced it by adding it to the infobox. As such, 300px fixed size now has the force of a clause of a Manual of Style and can even be added there if there is need. Changing this consensus requires demonstration of equally powerful consensus in it favor.

And actually, all of this is true. He will try to cry foul and resist but a strong policy such as this and admin's seal of approval pretty much clinches the matter. I tell you, this guy is a politician, not a pro. Treating him like a pro is a mistake. The correct way is to treat him like what he actually is. Fleet Command (talk) 07:48, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

True. FWIW I would actually prefer your input there – the reason I mentioned this discussion is only that you regretted that you've missed the merge discussion at {{infobox OS}}. I think your input would be valuable. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 08:04, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

And a thousands of thanks for the mention. I was bored out of my pants and the hour that I spent writing the reply above was a very productive hour. I will add an input myself, but after talking to CL elsewhere. And there is something else: This guy is a politician; so, I'd rather you TemplateEditors added something like this there instead of I, who am a black sheep of Wikipedia with the mark of Cain. You see, you two have authority. I have a bad reputation only. Fleet Command (talk) 08:11, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

NAC at RfD, No Pants Day

• Regarding [1], your close seems to think that I've requested a change to a title of an article, which is not true.  Please revert your close, as I'm not requesting a page move or a change to the title of an article.  Unscintillating (talk) 00:11, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
  • @Unscintillating: I re-opened it. You should probably explain your request the way that it won't be so ambiguous, but whatever you mean your case has nothing to do with RfD. RfD is not a proper venue for restoring articles and edit histories. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 00:20, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
• Note that when you make NAC closes, you must also edit the Article page (the redirect) and the talk page of the redirect.  Unscintillating (talk) 00:11, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
  • True. I completely forgot about cleaning up the redirect page. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 00:20, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

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