Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murdoch University Dubai: Difference between revisions
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*'''Keep.''' The article as it currently stands is promotional crap written by someone with a COI, but the topic is notable enough. I don't currently have access to any archive with either WA newspapers or The Australian (which has by far the best higher education coverage), but I'm pretty confident that if I did I could write one. I did find [http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/education/murdoch-university-opens-dubai-campus this] and [http://gulfnews.com/about-gulf-news/al-nisr-portfolio/notes/articles/murdoch-university-in-dubai-1.91537 this], but I think not being able to find more says more about my news database access than it does about the notability of the topic. [[User:The Drover's Wife|The Drover's Wife]] ([[User talk:The Drover's Wife|talk]]) 14:19, 28 August 2014 (UTC) |
*'''Keep.''' The article as it currently stands is promotional crap written by someone with a COI, but the topic is notable enough. I don't currently have access to any archive with either WA newspapers or The Australian (which has by far the best higher education coverage), but I'm pretty confident that if I did I could write one. I did find [http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/education/murdoch-university-opens-dubai-campus this] and [http://gulfnews.com/about-gulf-news/al-nisr-portfolio/notes/articles/murdoch-university-in-dubai-1.91537 this], but I think not being able to find more says more about my news database access than it does about the notability of the topic. [[User:The Drover's Wife|The Drover's Wife]] ([[User talk:The Drover's Wife|talk]]) 14:19, 28 August 2014 (UTC) |
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**''Interviews with employees of the specific satellite campus'' are not independently reliable and probably part of the PR push. What makes '''this''' satellite campus so important, what needs to be covered in this article that couldn't be covered in [[Murdoch University]]? I see you make the argument "I could improve this", then it is reasonable that you support either of the ATD that I propose (Put it back in Draft space for review by AFC or MergeRedirect to the parent article). [[User:Hasteur|Hasteur]] ([[User talk:Hasteur|talk]]) 15:07, 28 August 2014 (UTC) |
**''Interviews with employees of the specific satellite campus'' are not independently reliable and probably part of the PR push. What makes '''this''' satellite campus so important, what needs to be covered in this article that couldn't be covered in [[Murdoch University]]? I see you make the argument "I could improve this", then it is reasonable that you support either of the ATD that I propose (Put it back in Draft space for review by AFC or MergeRedirect to the parent article). [[User:Hasteur|Hasteur]] ([[User talk:Hasteur|talk]]) 15:07, 28 August 2014 (UTC) |
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:'''Comment''' - I would like to see if someone can improve the article. If more sources can be located to demonstrate notability, I would vote to keep. If not, redirect and merge with Murdoch University page. [[User:Cpuser20|Cpuser20]] ([[User talk:Cpuser20|talk]]) 15:44, 28 August 2014 (UTC) |
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Article does not sufficently explain why this satelite campus of a Austrailian university is independently notable. Content is also covered in the parent article in a section in addition 5 of the currently 8 "references" are from the university (or a sub devision of itself) and the final ones only talk about the university at large. The final references either don't mention the university system at all or are given to the overall university system (and not the Dubai sattelite campus. This article should not have been moved to mainspace by Neha Thomas (who appears to have a SPA focus on Murdoch University Dubai). I'm calling the question right now to determine what should be done with this page as I would not have promoted it out of the Articles for Creation bullpen in it's current Advert/overlapping content. I have no objections to this being sent back to Draft space, but I would ask that creation protection be added to the mainspace address to encourage improvement in the article. I also have no objections to merging/redirecting this article into the Murdoch University (but also ask for the redirect protection (PP-Full) to force a spinout development/discussion to occur. Hasteur (talk) 12:42, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. The article as it currently stands is promotional crap written by someone with a COI, but the topic is notable enough. I don't currently have access to any archive with either WA newspapers or The Australian (which has by far the best higher education coverage), but I'm pretty confident that if I did I could write one. I did find this and this, but I think not being able to find more says more about my news database access than it does about the notability of the topic. The Drover's Wife (talk) 14:19, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- Interviews with employees of the specific satellite campus are not independently reliable and probably part of the PR push. What makes this satellite campus so important, what needs to be covered in this article that couldn't be covered in Murdoch University? I see you make the argument "I could improve this", then it is reasonable that you support either of the ATD that I propose (Put it back in Draft space for review by AFC or MergeRedirect to the parent article). Hasteur (talk) 15:07, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - I would like to see if someone can improve the article. If more sources can be located to demonstrate notability, I would vote to keep. If not, redirect and merge with Murdoch University page. Cpuser20 (talk) 15:44, 28 August 2014 (UTC)