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Bradbury/Vedontakal Vrop

Hi there! I gave up on the image after Future Perfect's intemperate blast, but I don't see that this is a 'clear' NFCC violation, as you noted when re-removing the image (which I suppose was restored by some kind soul hoping to get me blocked). It is FP who in the discussion on this was imo 'wikilawyering', by stating his interpretation, and then declaring that it was the right and only interpretation, before getting on his high horse of denunciation. Not that I can be bothered to take it any further. Best, --Smerus (talk) 11:01, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Smerus. The IP who kept restoring it is trolling and highly likely to be doing so because of a dispute with the administrator who removed it, rather than with you. They're probably a sock of a blocked user to boot. The image use in Vedontakal Vrop quite clearly violates Criterion 8. of Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria: "Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." Not having a picture of the author of the novel in which the opera is mentioned is in no way detrimental to the understanding of the topic, i.e. the opera. The administrator who removed it is highly experienced in image licensing issues and is also an License reviewer on Commons. They aren't "wikilawyering", although I can see why editors who don't work in that area might perceive it as such. As someone who does a lot of work in copyright and fair use issues related to text, I know from experience that our actions can be unpopular with some editors, and there's a tendency to shoot the messenger . Best, Voceditenore (talk) 12:23, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for this, a little bit of context makes a lot of difference! (although I still think FP@S could have used a bit of the old AGF). Anyway as I am presently in Kiev, there's a lot more exciting going on than WP.......Best, --Smerus (talk) 13:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Er... a lot more exciting! Stay safe, Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:55, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

On my walk to work this morning......--Smerus (talk) 14:51, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Cripes! Voceditenore (talk) 17:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Hampstead Village Voice

Hi, and thanks for your help with the above. Very new to all this. FTR: The Press Gazzette's (ref 5) is not entirely correct. It was not a spoof edition but spoof front page on p.17 of Hampstead Village Voice edition 4 in 2008 (ref. Hard copy of Hampstead Village Voice edition 4). Also the Camden Review is a section of the local paper, Camden New Journal. I will try to prune and improve on existing as suggested but a bit of a Wikipedia novice, so all help much appreciated. Please have another look at it when you can. Kind regards, Sebastian Wocker. wocker@btinternet.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.35.166 (talk) 21:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Sebastian, I've moved you message down here to the bottom of this page. (New talk page threads go at the bottom of the talk page. More about that at Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines.) Anyhow, I'm in Italy at the moment with very limited internet access. I'll have a look when I get back on the 9th. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 06:50, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi, Voceditenore. Many thanks for your assistance in creating Paolo Giubellino's article. I'm grateful for your clear explanation and helping to fix the citation reference problem. Your help is really appreciated and encouraging for new users. Great work! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pcharito (talk • contribs) 10:17, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

A bowl of sweet strawberries for you!

Thankyou so much for your help with the Cafe Jacques article. You are a very bright star in the Wikipedia constellation! I certainly will enjoy investigating, and using the references. I'm feeling a bit humble over here, because my research skills need to be honed to a sharper edge. Then again, you have given me some clues with your refs. By the way, I found your user page quite interesting. Have a great day. CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 08:35, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind note, CaesarsPalaceDude! If you need any more help with your draft, do let know. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 11:15, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the Egg butter!

Just what the headline says. The references probably weren't the easiest to find - and hopefully someone will add more to the article. --Sander Säde 13:47, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

My pleasure, Sander Säde and many thanks for your kind note. Voceditenore (talk) 11:01, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Request your help

Hi Voceditenore, I just submitted suggested revisions for the Stetson University College of Law page. I'd edit this page myself but I work for Stetson University and there's a COI. Thanks for your help in the recent past! 24.73.119.194 (talk) 18:58, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

See my replies at Talk:Stetson University College of Law#2014 program and ranking updates. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 11:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Libretto links

Many thanks for that source. I'm expanding the Poliuto article and it appears that no current recording in the French version contains an English/French libretto. This will help a lot, along with a combination of 5th form French and Google translate. All the best Viva-Verdi (talk) 21:40, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Can you help me again, please, with Café Jacques?

Hi Voceditenore, after many more edits, new inline citations (some from you), new sections, help from the Teahouse, and one or two edits from a friendly Bot, I'm submitting Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Café Jacques (band) again. Could you, please, have another look at it? I am seeking to establish notability on the basis of "two albums on a major label" and "two notable musicians in the ensemble". I am still not completely happy with the inline citations, however I'm sure it is a huge improvement compared to the last submission. Will the reviewers see evidence of notability? Do you have any suggestions re how, in general, to improve the article? Thanks again for your help in the past. Have a qreat day.CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 09:27, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi CaesarsPalaceDude. I've moved it to article space. There's enough there to pass Criteria 5 of WP:MUSBIO supported by independent reliable sources. I'll leave more on your talk page. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 10:54, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Voceditenore, Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou! I must admit to doing one or two cartwheels around the room. Have a great day.CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 18:12, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Barnstar archived here

• Thank you, Liz! What a pleasant surprise! Yes, one does need nerves of steel over at the AfC Help Desk. After a while, I realized that it wasn't a case of simple misunderstanding, it was trolling, but I wasn't about to rise to the bait. Predictably, he (I'm sure it's only one person, not 2) went to ANI and wasted yet more editors' time, since they didn't know the background to the saga. There's more at the BLP Noticeboard. Click on the external link there which had been in his article as a "reference", and you'll see what I mean. On the other hand, the AfC desk can be really rewarding when you can help genuine newbies make their first article on Wikipedia, and hopefully want to stay. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:48, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Editing Chris Glen article

Hi Voceditenore, I have taken up the baton to beat Chris Glen into shape by copy editing from top to bottom in one (long) session. At the moment, I'm tired, and I'm not sure I have any objectivity left. Could you take a look, please, because you might feel inclined to remove one or more of those (very appropriate) tags?

Also, could you explain to me, please, how the time-context tag applies in this case, and the actions I would need to take to resolve the issues? I can't seem to get my head around it (brain must be too small), kind regards,CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 10:22, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi CaesarsPalaceDude. You've been doing some great work there. It's much improved! A great guide for copyediting in terms of style and tone is Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch. It explains about relative time constructs, peacockery, etc.. Also the style we use in biographies is to refer to the person by their full name only in the opening sentence with subsequent mentions either a pronoun or last name only, i.e. "Glen" or "he". When you think the problems are pretty much fixed, just go ahead and remove the tags. I'm off for the next three weeks, but when I get back, I'll take a look at it. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:24, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Two pieces for wind quintet (Ropartz)

Could you perhaps help out with the discussion here. There's a general question involved. DGG ( talk ) 06:04, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Replied there. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:02, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Michael Grecco

Thank you so much for your help with the Michael Grecco article, I'm not sure I would have been able to get it accepted without you! I will continue to do my best to improve it, thanks again! RonEwer 21:49, 29 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronewer (talk • contribs)

You're very welcome, Ronewer. I was happy to help and hope you'll enjoy working on Wikipedia. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 16:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts!

Barnstar archived here

Thank you, Carrite. That's very kind of you. I must confess that until I read the whole sentence, I was rather taken aback by "Your name came up on a Wikipediocracy thread...". Joking aside, people here often show their appreciation of content editors, albeit in quiet ways, but shiny things are nice too. Voceditenore (talk) 16:49, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

I saw your posts on WikiProject Medicine about the draft medical related articles at Afc and want to express my appreciation for the great work that you are doing to help new editors. Your sound advice given with a friendly attitude is a great welcome for new contributors. Sydney Poore/FloNight♥♥♥♥ 16:46, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Sydney, that's very kind of you! AfC is a funny place. The vast majority of submissions are promotional dross, but hidden amongst them are promising new editors writing on encyclopedic topics who just need a little help. A decent experience there, finding someone who's willing to lend a hand, and seeing their article "go live" is a great way to recruit and keep new editors. It makes up for all the mind-numbingly awful stuff we have to plow through there. All the best, Voceditenore (talk) 05:33, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Question

Greetings -- what is your opinion about this? I'm pretty sure it's who we think -- main problem is the change in geolocation, but the MO is the same. Antandrus (talk) 15:00, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Antandrus! I'm almost positive it's the same, as per my comments here. The various (radical) changes of location, e.g. New York, Wisconsin, Australia are odd. Perhaps contact one of the checkusers at this Sockpuppet investigation to see if they have any ideas as to whether it's possible to pull off something like that? Observe the savvy demonstrated by one of his confirmed socks here. It's also possible that he lived in Wisconsin and has since moved to New York and had also been travelling in Australia. Or goes to boarding school in New York. Or shares his time between divorced parents. Who knows? But I'll eat my hat if it's not the same person. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:51, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

JSTOR Survey (and an update)

Hi! Just a quick update that while JSTOR and The Wikipedia Library discuss expanding the partnership, they've gone ahead and extended the pilot access again, until May 31st. Thanks, JSTOR!

It would be really helpful for growing the program if you would fill out this short survey about your usage and experience with JSTOR:

SURVEY

Cheers, Ocaasi via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:47, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Prakhar Bindal

You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:56, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Please, allow some time to improve the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.194.197.211 (talk) 21:54, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks the heads-up, John. It's now been over two weeks with no significant improvement since the article was restored. Consequently, I took it to AfD today (Articles for deletion/Prakhar Bindal). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 12:05, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

A spot of bother with Piped Links

Hi User:Voceditenore, I have done more edits on Chris Glen since I last talked to you, but I haven't had a chance to work on the citations, yet.

I did a pair of edits in which I created a piped link from Änglagård to a section in ProjeKcts, and then put a note !-- the article Änglagård links here -- beside the section heading in the ProjeKcts article. I did that because I read it in this quideline MOS Piped links. Woke up this morning to find that Bondegezou had reverted the edit which put the note beside the heading. I tried to persuade him to put it back, but he said "the note is not what the guidelines tell you to do".

I was hoping that you could take a quick look, please. Could you let me know, please, whether I am barking up the wrong tree, or just plain "barking"? That's all I need, unless you feel compelled to do something more.

How was your overseas tour? Kind regardsCaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 05:44, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi CaesarsPalaceDude. It wasn't a "tour" really, but a lot of fun. We were in a gloriously sunny Northern California paying homage to our newest grandchild. Anyhow, you are right about the guideline. I put it back (just below the heading rather than in it) and left a note at the editor's talk page [1]. Having said that, very few editors think to leave the hidden note when piping or even know about that guidance (including me!), so the revert was understandable. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:09, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Voceditenore, it's great to know you had an outstanding visit, and a safe trip. I didn't know about that guidance either, and I stumbled onto it while I was trying to get the piped link syntax right. I gave you a call because I wasn't completely sure, and I didn't want to reverse it myself (make content not war). Thanks, yet again. Kind regardsCaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 10:51, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Your response at the AfC help desk

Tiger award archived here

Thank you very much, Anon! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:53, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

thanks

really wonder whether this time the page waris mir goes beyond the red zone, but the help was big. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afirahamid (talk • contribs) 13:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Afirahamid. I think Draft:Waris Mir will be OK in the end. I will be away for the next three weeks, but when I return, I'll have a look and see how it's getting on, and if it's not an article yet, see what can be done. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 16:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Dear voceditenore plz help with draft of war is mir SOS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afirahamid (talk • contribs) 20:40, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

A little More Of Your Attention Needed/Request

Hi Voceditenore, I have recently added a few more References to my Article & would be grateful if you could help a bit more with format and correct placement of References in the Article, please also give your valuable opinion when convenient. I shall be waiting for your response eagerly. Stay Blessed! Regards.Azhartokyo (talk) 04:48, 2 April 2014 (UTC).

Above was re Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Azhar Naazir. Voceditenore (talk) 08:06, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

John Todd Ferrier

Dear Voceditenore, thanks very much for your help with my feeble efforts for John Todd Ferrier... I was struggling to find any independent references, and starting to despair -indeed I had overlooked my finding Mary Kemmis' book a year or so ago (I don't have much time for this and distractions on other subjects aplenty)... much of my text started off as a translation from the Spanish wiki article but turned out to be from other places and in at least one case seemed better in the original words when I stumbled across it... but your re-write from a somewhat different perspective helps immensely. I'll see if I can squeeze in your references and re-submit asap... and will try to be more careful with my tenses in future! Best wishes and thanks again, -Nick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yadsalohcin (talk • contribs) 19:08, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Help Please

Hello,

I am trying to submit a new article Draft:ACC Fast Track Countries Tournament about the cricket tournament which was run from 2004 to 2007. It's waiting for review. I have provided the links of the tournament conducted each year on the bottom of the page (External links). I'd like to request you to review and approve it and let me know about it.

Thanks! Asheshneupane95 (talk) 14:24, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Asheshneupane95, I see someone else has approved it and moved it to ACC Fast Track Countries Tournament. Congratulations. I probably wouldn't have reviewed it though. It's not my area at all. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 18:07, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, someone else reviewed it. So will you please delete the draft page? I don't think it's necessary anymore. Asheshneupane95 (talk) 00:44, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Asheshneupane95. The draft doesn't need deleting, it was simply moved to article space, i.e. re-named. This is what your draft page looks like now. In any case, I'm not an admin, so I can't delete anything :). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 03:12, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you so much for addressing my concerns in a polite and yet concrete way. Perfect, I will let my bosses know that that was the case with the plagiarism. Yes, I understand the conflict of interest now that you have explained it to me, unlike Orange Mike, who not only made me feel uneducated--but was extremely demeaning in his dialoge. There are articles that I hadn't linked yet to the article, because that article was merely a draft--and by no means ready for publication. We did not know that a conflict of interest would prevent the article from being published by me, albeit I understand since I intern here that makes me a classic case. Hopefully, someone will take it upon themselves to research the show and provide an accurate and unbiased article review based off of the articles about the show found on the web.

When the page was originally created (the one you mentioned prior), the show had just come out so no articles had been published about it. They were also not aware how or why them having an intern post it was a conflict of interest.

Now, through your help we understand--and I thank you for being professional and polite while explaining to me why everything has happened. As you may know, unless you are pretty familiar with html and syntax and the guidelines in and out--my questions were valid misunderstandings. Especially for someone who has never ever in their live created or even attempted to create a wiki page. Again, Thank you so much!

Lissheff (talk) 07:48, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Glad I could help, Lissheff, but don't be too hard on the other editors. Sometimes editors who do a lot of the (very necessary) work of dealing with promotional articles, many of them by "paid for" editors, can be a bit "short" at times. Wikipedia is literally under siege from promotional editing. One estimate is that there are probably at least 100,000 such articles on Wikipedia, and more flooding in every day. It can become a little dispiriting for us all. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 17:22, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ada Cherry Kearton

DYK archived here. Voceditenore (talk) 09:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:00, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Your views

Hello! I was reviewing an AfD about Rap opera and thought I'd ask for your opinion, since you seem knowledgeable on similar topics. Thanks! CesareAngelotti (talk) 18:18, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:43, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Draft:John Austin (Jack) Victoreen

Hello Sir. I am new to Wikipedia and I am working on my first article, the subject of which is "John Austin (Jack) Victoreen". You have a page on L.S. Taylor, that mentions an interview with Victoreen and others in 1977. Can you give more details about that event, so I can include it in my article? Thanks in advance for your help.Zephyr7575 (talk) 22:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page [2]. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:05, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Grandfather Cuts Loose the Ponies

Dear Voceditenore, Thanks for writing the article "Grandfather Releases The Ponies". It was not about me writing the article. It was about the article being written. I'm happy that you felt that the monument deserved an article. You have given me more confidence in Wikipedia. Much thanks. I will write David Govedare and let him know about the article. Gigfisher (Gigfisher (talk) 10:25, 22 July 2014 (UTC)) Dear Voceditenore, Unfortunately I received a terse message from the artist, David Govedare:The design portion of the article is completely wrong! The story is completely of my own origin, the basket is the cornucopia of the creative force in the universe. The story line has nothing to do with coyote or any past native legends...loosely or otherwise, where does all this persistent BS come from. The story I have written is attached...it is rooted in the present as far as authorship and timeless in its meaning. Please follow through and delete me from the BS already printed, and change the message . dave govedare

I will attach his story as soon as I figure it out how to do it. I'm sorry this has turned into a dilemma. I thought he'd like it. Thanks. Gigfisher (Gigfisher (talk) 22:47, 23 July 2014 (UTC))

Hi Gigfisher. The source for the BS was this book. I must confess, I found it at variance with Grovedare's own comments on his sculpture and was having doubts about it myself. I've fixed it. Hopefully, he'll be happier now. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:21, 30 July 2014 (UTC)