Talk:Kyushu J7W Shinden

Do 335 is not similar

I see that the Do 335 was previously added under "similar aircraft", then removed (with an explanatory note), then added back.

The Kyushu J7W, XP-55 Ascender, and Henschel P.75 all have a canard design and only a pusher propeller. Either of those by itself is uncommon, and the combination is very rare. The Do 335 has a conventional wing layout and push-pull propellers. It's not similiar. I'm removing it again. -- Paul Richter 09:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

The article plane was apparently INSPIRED by it -max rspct 10:40, 14 November 2005 (UTC) From the Dornier article - In Japan the Japanese navy ordered the development of a very fast heavy interceptor before the end of the Pacific war. The result was the Kyushu J7W1 Shinden(震電, "Magnificent Lightning") which is very similar to the Do 335.

max rspct 16:10, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Do you have anything other than the Dornier Do 335 article indicating that they are similar? Because I don't find that at all convincing, and I haven't seen any other support for the claim of "inspiration". Besides, similarity means simply do they look alike?, (primarily, wing and engine configuration, size, purpose, crew) or could they be confused?. And the answer for the J7W and Do335 is unequivocally no.

I've removed the text from the Do335 article as well, solely with the intent of correcting that article itself, not with any intent to invalidate your argument above; the article indeed said what you claim.

However, if you look at the history of the Do335 article, you'll see that there was initially an anonymous entry claiming that the J7W was "the equivalent", which is entirely different from saying it was similar. Following this is an edit that rewords it as "very similar", and that's entirely incorrect and unsupported. --Paul Richter 00:00, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Here is additional explanation for removing the Do 335. (It came back and I removed it again.) The J7W Shinden is a canard & pusher design fighter/interceptor plane. The XP-55 and Libellula (M35 variant) are most similar being a canard/pusher/fighter. The Saab 21 is a pusher/fighter but with regular wing layout. The Do 335, however, is a tandem-engine (push-pull) design with regular wing layout and is a fighter-bomber. Therefore the Do 335 has nothing in common with the J7W Shinden, other than having one of the engines at the rear as a consequence of the tandem engine design. --Mizst (talk) 02:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Judge for yourself

• Dornier Do 335
• Kyushu J7W Shinden

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Where is the remaining shinden?

The article says it's at building 7 of the Garber Facility, but it is not shown in any of the lists of aircraft either for the Garber Facility or the Udvar-Hazy Center. Anyone know where this aircraft is? 74.239.2.104 (talk) 19:40, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Translation

"震" means more or less "vibrating", and "電" effectively may be read as "lightning" though it usually means "electricity". I thus doubt that the proposed translation for "shinden" is right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.135.100.251 (talk) 07:09, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Chinese is a complex language in which characters often have multiple meanings, and those meanings change when used with other words. Vibrating electricity doesn't make much sense, and dozens of websites and books including many that are known for being reasonable accurate indicate magnificent lightning. It should be footnoted but I doubt your particular meaning is intended. Google translates it as electric shock, Babylon translates it as Mr Power and Microsoft and Seismo-electric, none of which seem consistent with Japanese naming conventions of the period. Several came back with "Shinden" rather than the actual meaning.NiD.29 (talk) 10:07, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

FYI: I looked into dictionary and found that 震 denotes "thunder" in I Ching bagua. --Fukumoto (talk) 16:05, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Yokosuka MXY6

When i am searching for information I am stumbled across https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yokosuka_MXY6_Glider.jpg , while Yokosuka MXY6 page is redirected to this page. As I do not understand most of copyright status in the image page, I would suggest someone review it and if its is fine, move it to common and add the image here. Draconins (talk) 19:32, 20 October 2014 (UTC)