Talk:Hippie

Breathtaking POV

I can't think of a stronger example of POV than the attribution of the long list of social advances to whatever it is this article refers to but I removed the tag from the Legacy § for the usual reason given in the log. It's also amusing to see the typical etymology job on a word you saw come into existence. I doubt any etymology is valid, it was just there at the right time when the subculture emerged that would receive it as a label. Geo. Carlins hippie-dippy weatherman was apparently first performed in '67 and I'm sure Steve Allen and Louis Nye used the term before that. 72.228.177.92 (talk)

The POV is there, but it is hard to imagine a worthwhile article on hippies being written by someone who didn't feel some sort of affinity for the subject. So I guess we are stuck with it. 67.173.10.34 (talk) 08:26, 1 May 2014 (UTC)Larry Siegel

Alternate Spelling?

I have no idea why I'm thinking this but I used to think that hippy was an acceptable/alternate spelling. Is it?--71.131.179.39 (talk) 08:31, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

According to Merriam-Webster you are correct. I changed the lead sentence to reflect this. Thanks! — alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 13:36, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

M-W notes it as a variant only and otherwise avoids it. Wikipedia should, too. "Hippy" is also an adjective that means having large or prominent hips and it is therefore ambiguous, while "hippie" has only one meaning. In all but the most square and clueless contemporary literature, it was usually "hippie". The -ie suffix is also in keeping with other epithets such as "commie", "preppie" and "yuppie" -- and make no mistake, "hippie" was very much an epithet, a word initially applied only by disapproving outsiders. One would have been hard-pressed to find anyone strolling around the 1967 Be-In who would self-describe as "a hippie"; that only came later, after kids who read about "hippies" in the mainstream media appeared on the scene and in some cases willingly adopted the label. 66.81.241.33 (talk) 10:13, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Why does hipster redirect here?

Seems they're very different things, at least when comparing 60s hippies to modern hipsters -- totally different.

If you all really want to present them as the same thing, it would warrant a new section for modern hipsters in the hippie article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.100.74 (talk) 13:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. Hipster seems to redirect to a disambiguation page, and the first choice on there is Hipster (contemporary subculture).— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 13:45, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Roadmap to GAN

I would like to bring this to WP:GAN, but the article is not yet ready. Previous efforts to do this were led by a misguided editor who didn't understand the process, hence the auto-fail. If anyone has any concerns or misgivings about the current article, please share them here so we can address the problems together. Note, this thread is for identifying problems and fixing them, not for endless discussions or reminiscences about hippies or the 1960s. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 04:02, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Far too little on the international developments of the hippie movement

There is far too little in this article on the developments of the hippie movement in Britain, Germany, Scandinavia, Australasia and elsewhere after its emergence. The current shape of the article takes the undeniable fact that the hippie movement's genesis is heavily bound with the United States, to overload the article in favour of the early US years of the hippie movement, and away from the later years of the hippie movement. Hence I am putting a {globalise} tag on it.

217.44.247.75 (talk) 20:03, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Bell bottoms and a peace sign do not a hippie make

Could we please have some other lead image than the present superficial fashion-centric one? For all we know, the young lady shown was attending law school, wouldn't touch LSD with a ten-foot pole and had not the slightest intention of abandoning the depicted distinctly unhip residence with its wall-to-wall carpeting and dropping out of mainstream society, even if only just for a summer adventure. Unless they were parent-funded wannabes, not too many "hippies" were buying expensive fancy pants from boutiques. Some of the hippest of the hip wore nothing more radical than a white or solid color t-shirt and peg-leg jeans, or second-hand shirts and slacks from the local thrift shop. The more colorful clothing was typically home-brewed, the product of piecing together found fabrics or ornamenting with embroidery. But the point is that the "hippie" subculture was primarily a matter of practical philosophy, not a fashion trend -- if anything, it was anti-fashion, of the passive "just let it grow" (hair) and creative DIY (clothing and decor) varieties. 66.81.241.33 (talk) 11:05, 4 November 2014 (UTC)