Talk:Elton John

Wikiproject LGBT studies

I'm glad that the Wikiproject LGBT studies didn't edit this article. I'm pro LGBT especially the transgender recognition fight but what they are doing is not good. Elton is an activist and he is the one who is supposed to say what does he think and not be co-opted by a so called "studies project". They did a terrible work at Cassia Eller's biography because as Cassia is Brazilian there is not too much to search. Sorry to be discussing it here. Maybe Wikipedia should have Gender as a feature at the right box with the descriptions of the person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justana (talk • contribs) 08:22, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 December 2011

Please change the description of Elton's visit to the USSR. He was NOT the first western pop star to tour that country. Cliff Richard opened in Leningrad on August 16, 1976, going on to play 12 concerts over 10 days in that city. He then moved to Moscow, beginning his run there on August 28 and playing eight concerts over six days. Thankyou

86.166.13.173 (talk) 13:29, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

• -  Done - changed .. the first.. to ... one of the first .. as per edit request on talk and search returns and some wiki returns such as detail in 1976 in music - Youreallycan (talk) 16:37, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 December 2011

Please change "In 1979, accompanied by Ray Cooper, John became the first Western solo artist to tour the Soviet Union (as well as one of the first in Israel), then mounted a two-man comeback tour of the US in small halls." to "In 1979, accompanied by Ray Cooper, John became one of the few Western artists to tour the Soviet Union (as well as one of the first in Israel), then mounted a two-man comeback tour of the US in small halls. 86.166.13.173 (talk) 13:34, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

• - This seems a duplicated request of the above post, only with more detail (which is always a good idea for an edit request) which I have completed. Thanks - Youreallycan (talk) 16:41, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Adult contemporary?

Isn't E.J. Adult contemporary also? Because of the very touching songs, just like "Can you feel the love tonight?"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.235.45 (talk) 21:21, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Candle In The Wind 97

This song was actually performed TWICE. Elton John performed it at the funeral, and then again on a BBC show hosted by Sir Terry Wogan (NOT The Wogan Show the following Monday evening.. and it was after the second performnace that he vowed never to perform that version again.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamrelb (talk • contribs) 12:47, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request: Please remove comma splice, etc...

This sentence reads like 8 different people put in edits.

Original:

"In 1967, what would become the first Elton John/Bernie Taupin song, "Scarecrow", was recorded; when the two first met, six months later, Dwight was going by the name "Elton John", in homage to Bluesology saxophonist Elton Dean and Long John Baldry.[22]"

Suggested Correction:

"In 1967, what would become the first Elton John/Bernie Taupin song, "Scarecrow" was recorded when the two first met. Six months later Dwight was going by the name "Elton John" in homage to Bluesology saxophonist Elton Dean and Long John Baldry.[22]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.110.112.43 (talk) 02:17, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

You are right, it was very badly phrased. I've sorted it out a bit into something more sensible. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 18:48, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

they have a son?

How do two men have a son? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.226.95.18 (talk) 01:22, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I think there was a "discussion" about this topic before? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:32, 17 February 2012 (UTC)e

Yes there was. It was removed because it descended into nothing but trolling and obscenities from the now blocked user who started it. It was nothing but trolling and baiting from the start. Edit:Also, this anon has a bad history of trolling on talk pages including promoting anti-Semitic beliefs. I'd watch out. --Nutthida (talk) 17:06, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Two men can have a son in the same way that a boy can have two fathers. One biological father, one adoptive father. Nothing out of the ordinary. Can't see how this could confuse anyone. Nothing to see here... --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 18:31, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

The ip address from which this question originated doesn't exactly have a "clean record" in terms of contribitions - take a peep at the Talk Page. Maybe that Government ip address will find itself blocked before too long. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:46, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

They hired a surrogate mother to give birth to a baby who was created with the ovum of a donor and the sperm of one of the two men. They both submitted sperm and they do not know which one of them is the actual biological father. --Ishtar456 (talk) 02:35, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

A neutral word for champion

At the top of the page, it is mentioned at the end : "...continues to be a champion for..." To be a champion is not a neutral word, the word 'advocate' would be better suited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaapinholland (talk • contribs) 17:59, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

This is something that's bought up a LOT on Wikipedia... and it's not hard to see why. If it's not a direct quotation I think advocate would be more neutral wording. But then Champion is very commonly used. --Nutthida (talk) 18:08, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

The name of the newest Elton John album (2012) has been confirmed. Please change "TBA (2012)" to "The Diving Board (2012)"

In the information concerning the names and dates of Elton John's studio albums, it had been previously released there would be two albums this year in which he plays major part, one of which would be a solo album. The name of the solo album has been released. Please change "TBA (2012)" to "The Diving Board (2012)" It is planned for a December Release. Source: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/elton-john-cuts-raw-lp-with-t-bone-burnett-20120315

killedelvis Brian Sizemore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Killedelvis (talk • contribs) 18:29, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Associated with...

May I suggest that Leon Russell should be added to the 'associated acts' listed in the infobox? Their joint album, 'The Union' (2010) is already included in the discography. Russell is one of the greats of American music, and Elton John's association with him, bringing him back from obscurity late in his career, reflects great credit on the latter. AgTigress (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:56, 25 March 2012 (UTC).

Cannabis

In 2004 Sir Elton admitted his heavy cannabis smoking caused his throat problems in 1986-1987. I think this should be mentioned as it is what caused his voice to change so much. (92.7.24.179 (talk) 12:34, 26 May 2012 (UTC))

False starts on piano

I saw a video once of Elton performing live playing the beginnings of some of his famous songs then stopping abrubtly and changing his mind. He did it a few times and the audience loved it. I can't remember what song he finally played. Is this something he does regularly or just a one-off? What song did he eventually play? Oliver9184 (talk) 03:41, 6 June 2012 (UTC) 118.68.14.28 (talk) 03:40, 6 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliver9184 (talk • contribs) 13:17, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Love is the Cure

EJ wrote a book, too. If anyone cares... [1] 209.103.209.92 (talk) 15:21, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Addictions

The bio states, "Throughout his career, John has battled addictions to alcohol and cocaine", but then I read here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jul/24/elton-john-speech-aids-conference

that he "has been sober for 22 years". Which is it??? Sounds to me like he might have only been addicted for roughly the first half of his career. I don't know much about Elton John so I don't want to change the bio, so will let somebody else that knows this subject better do it.

--Agree, the sentence needs rewording.

Also, shame there's no mention of his performances on "The Old Grey Whistle Test", especially his 1971 appearance, which looks to be one of his earliest performances on television. Can't find a suitable reference though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.211.74.145 (talk) 21:13, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 October 2012

I propose a very minor change see here this is what the inbox currently looks like:

infobox 1

Sir Elton John CBE, Hon DMus, Hon RAM Elton John attending the premiere of The Union at the 2011 Tribeca Film Festival Background information Birth name Reginald Kenneth Dwight Born (1947-03-25) 25 March 1947 Pinner, Middlesex, England Genres Rock, R&B, pop rock, glam rock, soft rock Occupation(s) Musician, singer-songwriter, record producer, composer Instrument(s) Vocals, piano, keyboards, guitar Years active 1964–68 (Bluesology) 1969–present (Solo) (Difference 1) Labels DJM, Uni, MCA, Geffen, Rocket/Island, Universal, Interscope, Mercury, UMG Website eltonjohn.com

But this is the change I would like to be made (see below)

infobox 2

Sir Elton John CBE, Hon DMus, Hon RAM Elton John attending the premiere of The Union at the 2011 Tribeca Film Festival Background information Birth name Reginald Kenneth Dwight Born (1947-03-25) 25 March 1947 Pinner, Middlesex, England Genres Rock, R&B, pop rock, glam rock, soft rock Occupation(s) Musician, singer-songwriter, record producer, composer Instrument(s) Vocals, piano, keyboards, guitar Years active 1969–present (Difference 2) Labels DJM, Uni, MCA, Geffen, Rocket/Island, Universal, Interscope, Mercury, UMG Website eltonjohn.com

When he perfomed on the Isle of Man in 2011 he said and I quote "It's taken me 42 years to get here [meaning Isle of Man] but I can absolutely gurantee it won't take me another 42 years to come back" Basically it referes to his career he started professionally in 1969 as describe in (Difference 2) and not 1964 as describe in (Difference 1). --195.194.238.104 (talk) 12:15, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

 Not done His work with Bluesology dates from 1964, as confirmed by reliable sources (e.g. [2]) - what you're proposing is original research based on your interpretation of his comment, which definitely doesn't take precedence over sourced material. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:22, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Well then surely if that's the case then infobox should say 1964–present and not 1964–68 like it currently does?? --195.194.238.104 (talk)

He was active with Bluesology from '64-'68, then solo from '69-present, exactly as reflected in the infobox. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:13, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

22:24, 16 November 2012 (UTC)22:24, 16 November 2012 (UTC)~~== Rocket Records to 21 at 33 (1974-1979) ==

The paragraph currently reads: In 1974 a collaboration with John Lennon took place, resulting in Elton John covering The Beatles' "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" and Lennon's "One Day at a Time", and in return Elton John and band being featured on Lennon's "Whatever Gets You thru the Night."

However, the reference to "and in return Elton John and band" should be changed to simply Elton John. His band did not play on the track, only Elton added piano. The rest of the musicians were those Lennon assembled for the sessions on "Walls and Bridges." This can be verified in the album's liner notes.

Plays guitar?

Where? When? Under Instruments it should just be vocals, piano, and organ. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.27.245.51 (talk) 00:22, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Suicide attempt

This is just a note for myself or anybody else who wants to add this information to the Elton John article. There should be a mention of his suicide attempt when he was struggling with admitting he is gay and deciding not to get married. I don't know of an official account of this in writing, but I have found that in the "Two Rooms" video, both Elton and Bernie Taupin discuss it in the interviews. For example, see the video on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwyNTdPbapY). Starting at about the 12:46 time-mark, they talk about Elton's decision and Bernie discovering him lying on the kitchen floor in an attempt to gas himself with the oven (and the windows open). Their song "Someone Saved My Life Tonight" is somewhat inspired by this event. --Lance E Sloan (talk) 15:19, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Aida

Hello, in the article "Elton John Discography" there is a date of Aida's release and it is March 1999, so not 1998, which date is used in the main article about Elton John as the Aida's release date. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.153.119.41 (talk) 13:03, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Sir Elton John got a second child

Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: Musician Sir Elton John and his life partner David Furnish were given after son Zachary another child. About Prine, almost nothing is known when the couple quite closed to the media, but as the New York Post, the second child born to them is the same surrogate mother, who is in every birth very well paid and whose identity would remain a mystery forever.78.3.223.234 (talk) 18:07, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Numbers

Hi guys just saw this page . Some numbers are very old . Moste recent sources speak of more than 300 million record sales ( like the list of best selling artists of 2013) . Also the aids foundation has raised more by now . The sources are quite old would someon please check . If youre interested in the sources let me know , I will show the to you ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MJ1982 (talk • contribs) 22:58, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

I think that no. Sales of Elton John, are between 200-250 million. This is the median worldwide. The 300 million or more as this Telegraph 2009 are cyclical information (may be thanks to the "Wikimagic"). Regards, Chrishonduras (talk) 23:12, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

most recent use 250 mio albums . and on the list of best selling artist he was with 300 mio right befor queen and led zeppelin . Regards MJ1982 (talk) 23:24, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, MJ1982, please show us the sources. Cresix (talk) 23:47, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

_No MJ1982, the all recent use is from 250 million records and, 200 million records too (the 300 million is really a minority unimportant; and if coming from years past, it is actually a figure unreal). With Led Zeppelin I have no idea, but one has to evaluate each case, in this context the sales of John are as high of 250 million records worldwide. Moreover, we must take care of the issue of the references because some may be considered reliable sources for Wikipedia, but you better come entirely from sources related to the music industry. For example: Madonna International Federation of the Phonographic Industry 2006 (200 million albums, only albums) or British Phonographic Industry 2012 (300 million records: albums, singles and videos). I see that happens the exact opposite with John, in fact. Regards, Chrishonduras (talk) 23:53, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi MJ 1982 welcome to wikipedia . I think you may be right . Please send me some sources (please up to date sources (not older than 1 year if possible) form different sources . This article wouldnt mind some work over. cheersWilly993 (talk) 00:00, 17 March 2013 (UTC) Best Regard

Hello. Here is written, that Elton John sold more than 200 million albums worldwide: http://www.contactmusic.com/pages/eltonjohn1x22x03x07 Is it a reliable source in your opinion? If yes, then what about singles - when only Candle in the wind '97 was sold in amount of over 33 million - how can it be possible that all together Elton sold worldwide only 250 million records? And here You have some more sources saying about sales of 200 million and even 250 million of Elton's albums only: http://books.google.pl/books/about/Elton.html?id=rVXrl8aZP0kC&redir_esc=y http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/Elton-John/biography/

Regards, Maciek 94.124.18.19 (talk) 14:59, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

"Rock"

I am wondering why he is classified as a rock singer-songwriter in the lead, when he covers so many genre. I would propose it be deleted and left as singer-songwriter. FlatOut 08:27, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 May 2013

Please change the Diving Board release date from "March 2013" to "September 2013" (this matches what's on the Diving Board wiki page), or at least remove the March 2013 date. Thank you

Done - Updated with reference from the Diving Board article. Thanks! --ElHef (Meep?) 14:22, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Post nominals

kt is missing. --88.153.181.183 (talk) 01:42, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Sales - 300 million

Hello. I think it is the time to correct the value of Sir Elton's records sold worldwide. In this particular wiki-article about Elton John there is the number 250 million. It is only a claimed value, similiarly as those given in the article List of best-selling music artists (also 250 million and 200 million). Meanwhile there are several web pages (links below), when you can find a value of 300 million Elton's records sold worldwide. I suggested to editors of the above mentioned wiki-article List of best-selling music artists' to correct the value to 300 million or to add this value. For now I received no answer. Links to the above mentioned pages are here: http://eltonjohnlasvegas.com/discography.php http://www.excite.com/events/concert-tickets/Elton-John/ http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/8-bestselling-recording-artists-time/#!/elton-john_491 Thank You very much, Maciek — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.124.18.19 (talk) 09:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I agree with you . But please sign your comment next time ! Im new on Wikipedia, and I wanna try to contribute to many articles by helping finding sources foor certain topics. So I will look up some stuff and post it soon ( not today) what I found .Though I think your stuff is good especially your last on! Cheers --Rusex (talk) 23:03, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not sure if I know what's this all about with signing posts but I'll do my best :) Thank You for the comment, I'm waiting for the stuff You'll find. Cheers, Maciek 94.124.18.19 (talk) 08:15, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Ha, I have just found some more sources: http://www.blurtit.com/q265336.html

http://whatculture.com/film/elton-john-biopic-from-writer-of-billy-elliott.php

http://essarcentre.com/elton-john-concert-sault-ste-marie/

https://www.sodahead.com/entertainment/8-singers-or-bands-have-topped-300-million-in-record-sales-which-one-do-you-like-the-best/question-3176721/

http://www.therichest.org/entertainment/the-top-10-best-selling-artists-of-all-time/

http://amazingnews4you.com/the-top-5best-selling-artists-of-all-time/

However it's worth to mention that on the official Elton John site http://www.eltonjohn.com/about/ there is a number 250 million when it comes to sold records. Cheers, Maciek 94.124.18.19 (talk) 09:29, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi guys , I think the things of ej.com are often taken from source which have taken their information from here (Wikipedia). many things are not up to date for example also about the ejaf. Just saying. It hasnt really been updated for sometime ! I have to say many good sources you have!--Obahma (talk) 14:29, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, I have found some another sources, saying about 300 million sales of Elton's records:

http://www.eltonjohnitaly.com/dailymirror2006.html

http://blogs.fco.gov.uk/garethward/2013/03/07/if-music-be-the-food-of-love-play-on/

http://www.top10best.in/world-best-selling-music-artists/

http://www.h2g2.com/entry/A87768030

Cheers, Maciek 94.124.18.19 (talk) 11:09, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

...and a source, saying even about 350 million Elton's records sold worldwide: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/5197203/Sir-Elton-John-adds-an-extra-date-to-his-tour.html

Maciek 94.124.18.19 (talk) 10:17, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Maciek, I agree with your contributions. I first wanna say I work for RIAA in the US. We are checking artists sales and sources. We have also a close connection to the magazine the rolling stone. The rolling stone in this area is considered one of the most reliable sources when it comes to artists sales. It is also one of the few reliable sources whick makes a difference between record , albums and single sales. So in Eltons case stated his album sales on " more than 250 mio" This means without singles , videos or digital sales. http://www.rollingstoneme.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=95 So considering his single sales Elton is way higher than written in the wiki article. Just wanna mention that alone his single candle in the wind has received 11 times platinum for 11 mio sold copies just in the US! I hope I could help you ! If you need help with certifications about Elton r just about any other artist feel free to contact me.

Best regards and cheers P.S: Create an account , so you can contribute way easier .

--U2new (talk) 22:19, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

I think you both are right! I looked your rolling stone article up and it just speaks of more than 250 mio ALBUMS! so his complete sales are some higher I think!--Rusex (talk) 13:45, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Guys,

many thanks to You, specially to U2new for the very substantial and friendly post :) So, taking into consideration the fact that alone "Something About the Way... / Candle in the Wind '97" sold worldwide over 33 million copies, I would judge the total amount of Elton's RECORDS sold worldwide for minimum 350 million copies! However it seems that either editors of english wikiarticle about Elton John or editors of many language versions of wikiarticles "list of best selling music artist" don't give a s...t about the reliability of the information provided :( Though the editor of the official site eltonjohn.com promised to re-consider the value 250 million RECORDS given in the site... we'll see what's next.

If I have some questions about Elton's sales certifications, I will not hesitate to contact You, U2new :))

Sorry for my english...

Cheers and respect, Maciek 94.124.18.19 (talk) 15:03, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

You are most welcome! Yes feel free to contact me! cheers--U2new (talk) 15:51, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok guys so we should now think about which source(s) we take .Is there somewhere anyone who can help us editing the article, with new sources? --Obahma (talk) 23:17, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello there.

I think both sources ("U2new's" interwiew from The Rolling Stone and "my" article from The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/5197203/Sir-Elton-John-adds-an-extra-date-to-his-tour.html ) seem to be reliable and to confirm Elton's worldwide RECORDS sales at the level of minimum 350 million. I hope we will find anyone willing to help us editing the wikiarticle :)

In passing: in my country, wikipedia is quite better organized - You can always edit every article You want, but Your edit has to be accepted by a moderator. Sometimes You have to convince such a moderator or make a discussion with him, but here You are from the start on the lost position and have to ask for.

Cheers,

Maciek94.124.18.19 (talk) 11:56, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi , If you want ill change it for you in the next days? Agreed? Any extra information for the article. I checked the sources out and they are good agree on that ! Best wishes--Willy993 (talk) 17:07, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey Willy993, if You may do it for us, it's really great! Thanks in advance, best regards, Maciek94.124.18.19 (talk) 13:13, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi , agree with Maciek and U2 new. The telegraph is a good source along with the Rolling Stone--Rusex (talk) 14:42, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks Willy993 for modyfing the article! I thought that You put in the article the value "350 million" or at least mentioned about "100 million singles", but anyway thanks a lot! I just noticed that the first source (Rolling Stone interview) doesn't work anymore, but I have it saved and may facilitate it or upload somewhere, if needed :) Cheers Maciek94.124.18.19 (talk) 10:36, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Ok, we have 300 million!!! Kind regards, Maciek94.124.18.19 (talk) 14:29, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Peacock words

I take issue with two statements in the second paragraph of the lead article that break WP:PEA guidelines on inappropriate encyclopaedic language - in this case making extreme claims. The first example follows the statement that the sale of records in the millions makes John 'one of the most successful artists of all time'. In the first place this is supported by a link to a website here that makes no such claim, so it is not adequately referenced. In the second, it is contentious that this puts him ahead of all (musical) artists in history, a statement that simply cannot be proved.

A similar claim is made that Rolling Stone 'ranked him Number 49 on its list of the 100 greatest artists of all time'. What the reference says in fact is that the magazine conducted a survey 'assembling a panel of 55 top musicians, writers and industry executives and asking them to pick the most influential artists of the rock & roll era'. This is completely different, placing him half way through a list of performers of a certain type of music. It is to avoid misguided claims on the basis of wrested facts that Wikipedia has cautioned against using such inflated language. I have therefore deleted both statements and am prepared to make it a matter for the Administrators in future. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 15:11, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Ann Orson, Carte Blanche

The article Rock of the Westies states:

The song "Hard Luck Story" had already been recorded by Kiki Dee, and released as a single one year prior to its recording for Rock of the Westies. Along with "Don't Go Breaking My Heart", it is credited to Ann Orson/Carte Blanche (An horse and cart, Blanche) a moniker John devised when composing a song (music and lyrics) on his own.

However, the article Don't Go Breaking My Heart states that that song was written by Elton John and Bernie Taupin under the Ann Orson and Carte Blanche pseudonyms.

These articles should be made consistent -- is Orson & Blanche a pseudonym for John on his own, or for John & Taupin? And if the latter, can Orson be identified with John and Blanche with Taupin, or vice versa? Incidentally, "Cartier", which appears on the B-side of "Sartorial Eloquence", is credited to Dinah Club and Carte Blanche, presumably a reference to the two credit cards. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Grammy Award, Best Male Vocal 1994 AND 1995

Hi -- Why does it say that Elton won the Grammy for Best Male Vocal (Pop) in 1994 AND 1995 for the same recording. (It's not like one was a live recording and one was a studio recording.) Thanks for fixing this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.146.149 (talk) 09:40, 26 September 2013 (UTC) ===moved from top of article===Elton John didn't win the Grammy in 1994 AND 1995 for the same recording. 98.210.146.149 (talk) 09:42, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Information in the lead

It seems we have a disagreement about an entry in the lead section, about his song Candle in the Wind 1997. I reverted the change for reasons stated in the edit summary, an editor is in disagreement, so I'm here to reach consensus about the issue. To reply to Dennis lance's edit summary on their revert, I don't contest the importance of the song, I question the amount of information given to this addition. Mlpearc (powwow) 00:33, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Ok, friend, now I understand Your point (that the LEAD section is too roomy and detailed). I'm gonna try to reedit it. Cheers, Maciek Dennis lance (talk) 06:58, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

"John"

I don't care about all those "John this" and "John that". I'd rather read "Elton this" and "Elton that". Two reasons:

1. He is better known as "Elton" than "John", if a single-token name is to be selected. Besides, in the USA, we're very often on a "first name" basis.
2. "John", being a given name, brings about confusion when used as a family name.

What say thee ? --Jerome Potts (talk) 05:52, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

I completely agree :) Cheers, MaciekDennis lance (talk) 14:07, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

WP:SURNAME would disagree.--Egghead06 (talk) 17:47, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, there's the Names confused with common words and well-known single names clause in there (an example is Siouxsie Sioux), where "John" applies IMO. --Jerome Potts (talk) 06:50, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

"John" is neither a common word nor a well-known single name?--Egghead06 (talk) 20:16, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

As Egghead06 states above, WP:SURNAME & also WP:FULLNAME kinda makes this discussion moot. Mlpearc (open channel) 20:27, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Why did Elton's voice change?

I heard that he blew out his vocal chords and required surgery years ago. I read (or missed it) nothing regarding that on the main page of his bio. His voice definitely changed from his earlier recordings to what it is now. Strange? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.69.149 (talk) 05:33, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Prog Rock

Even though Elton John may not be considered Prog like many artists of that time, it seems to me early in his career there was a Prog influence or maybe could have been considered "Pop Prog". When I listen to "Empty Sky", "Funeral for a Friend" and even "Rocket Man" there's a Prog sound going on. So in someways, with all the genres he's in, couldn't Prog be one of them as well? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.80.110.225 (talk) 02:28, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Just because a couple of songs may have a "Prog influence", it does not necessarily warrant inclusion in the infobox. However, if you have reliable sources to back you up, then it may be something that could be put in the musical style section. Twyfan714 (talk) 21:58, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Actually on Wikipedia, Empty Sky is considered a progressive rock album, and from what Wikipedia describes as progressive rock it fit the description. So why shouldn't he considered prog. I think it's justified and compliments his versatility as a musical artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.80.110.225 (talk) 05:19, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

The infobox is a brief overview. Long lists detract from its usefulness. Adding multiple genres to it also confuses the reader as they have no way of knowing what proportion of their output applies to which genre. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 19:05, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

The infobox should contain broad generalities. The article body is where John's foray into prog can be described. Binksternet (talk) 19:50, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Elton John "Live in Australia"

This article fails to mention Elton John's fabulous live album "Live in Australia", released in 1987 and recorded in Sydney at the Sydney Entertainment Centre shortly after surgery to remove nodules on his vocal cords. The effect of the surgery on his voice can be heard on a number of the tracks on this album, when he drops an octave on some of the higher notes. This recording features a number of his great early tracks, and uses the backing of the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. The recording itself is only of the second half of the concert (the first half only featured Elton John and his band, with the orchestra only participating in the second half of the concert).

Tracks on the album are: 1. Sixty Years On 2. I Need You to Turn to 3. The Greatest Discovery 4. Tonight 5. Sorry Seems to Be the Hardest Word 6. The King Must Die 7. Take Me to the Pilot 8. Tiny Dancer 9. Have Mercy on the Criminal 10. Madman across the Water 11. Candle in the Wind 12. Burn down the Mission 13. Your Song 14. Don't Let the Sun Go down on Me Mbagshaw (talk) 04:21, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Vocal

Recently a new list was released with singers vocal range. The list measured the ranges by all albums recorded by the singer. Elton s album voice range is from e2 ( mona lisas) till d6 ( social disease). I think this should as well be mentioned. http://www.samachar.com/This-Interactive-Chart-Compares-the-Vocal-Ranges-of-the-Worlds-Greatest-Singers-ofurLEdagie.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by MJ1982 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Edit Request - Marriage to Renate Blauel

Wikipedia article indicates length of marriage as 3 years. Article in People Magazine indicates marriage of 4 1/2 years (Feb 14, 1984 - unknown date, late 1988). Cw3Retired (talk) 19:55, 13 November 2014 (UTC)