Talk:Lebanese Australians

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Around half of all Lebanese Australians live in Sydney. A good encyclpedia would source this fact. something like, "According to the 2001 ABS Census, Around half of all Lebanese Australians live in Sydney." MPS 05:24, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the rewrites ...

...which went on in my absence, or at least when I was not paying active attention. The article reads smoothly and informatively. Are Lebanese Australians really the ninth largest group? That sounds interesting...thanks for beefing up the history too. --EuropracBHIT 07:33, 28 December 2005 (UTC).

Yes, Lebanese Australians are the ninth largest group according to Australian Bureau of Statistics census data available here: http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@.nsf/525a1b9402141235ca25682000146abc/8e6fd54fc12ceb0eca256e910078296a!OpenDocument. Details of the Lebanon-born are available at the Community Information Summaries at DIMIA at www.immi.gov.au/statistics. (Someone else will have to put the references on the article page as I haven't worked out how yet.) I have tried to create a fairly standard article shape for all the Australian ethnic groups so that they can be easily cross referenced. Doire, 12:32, 28 December (UTC).

Cronulla Riots?

Should something be put in about the Cronulla riots? Alot of the anger there seemed to be directed towards lebanese australians, so i think it would be relevent. Ill leave the decision up to you guys. -kurtas

Yes, it's relevant to the article, but don't forget to keep it NPOV. CG 11:48, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Rapists

Why is Bilal Skaf and rapists listed as notible Lebanese Australians? Criminals dont represent social groups. In an article about nationalities criminals are never listed as notible figures. This is very offensive and i wish it to be removed. The cronulla riots have the same right to be mentioned in the article "Australia" as the article "Lebanese Australians". Lebanese Australians did not start the cronulla riots, Anglo Saxon Australians did. CG 12:41, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

The list isn't about representing a social group, it's listing members of the group who are notable, for whatever reason. The List of Australians contains a whole section of criminals. If the riots are mentioned in this article, then it would be in such a way that wouldn't imply that Lebanese Australians started the riots, but to explain how they were examples of racial attacks directed at Lebanese Australians. JPD (talk) 10:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

i think its a bad idea to include people like skaf. very unprofessional. Tarins01 13:20, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Canada

this shouldnt be merged. "Leb" is uniquely aussie.

Increase in Lebanese Gangs?

"In recent years Lebanese community has come under increasing friction with the mainstream Australian community resulting in ethnic tensions. Most of these tensions has been due to the increase in Lebanese gang related activities. However, Hazem El Masri who plays with the Canterbury Bulldogs is seen as a good role model for Lebanese and Muslim Australians."

This paragraph is extremely illiterate. There is no evidence what so ever to indicate that "lebanese" gang related activities have increased, yet alone to suggest that it has created an increased tension with a "mainstream" Australian community. I am assuming Mainstream is Anglo Saxon Australians. These are the "real" Australians to the author. It seems the author's comments are only opinion which have been created by the media in Australia and its negative portrayal of the Lebanese Australian community.

Hazem El Masri is only one of the many "good" (absolutely terrible language) role models for Lebanese Australians.

This must be removed immediatly. Has Wikipedia just become a message board? Having Skaf the rapist as a notable member of the community, and now this is seriously undermining integrity of wikipedia. CG 12:41, 15 February 2006 (UTC

Administrator - Please remove references to the Skaf rapists - they are not notable Lebanese Australians - they are criminals - As an Australian of Lebanese background, I am insulted that their names be listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.166.110.125 (talk • contribs)

You can probably remove it yourself without admin assistance. Feel free to contact me with any questions. Alphachimp ^talk 06:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I would not recommend removing on account of their criminal status. Every ethnic group has good and bad. They are notable, and they are Lebanese Australians. This page is not just for the good. Ansell 07:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

For the moment I'll put up with the above - however a big error is the reference to Kurds being a Lebanese group. This is very wrong. There is a small population of Kurds, just like there is a small Jewish community. Furthermore, Armenians living in Lebanon are Catholics or Orthodox, they are not a Lebanese group.