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Whatever happened with this page

Xanty - you page looks like a new-beginner's. Hafspajen (talk) 21:17, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

You're back!!! It's been archived… on parchment stored in the basement of the Great Pyramid. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:02, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Xanty, your busses the poorest in the world. I am stuck in Scotland somewhere where they said there will be a train 11.00 and when down at station the go ;Oh, that train stopped for two weeks ago.. blast them all. Can you imagine it? But all timetables SHOW this train, it is figuring in the timetables unchanged everywhere. Hafspajen (talk) 12:34, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Hafs, it's all gone downhill since they privatised it- the line belongs to one company and the trains belong to several others . Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 17:34, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Ah, that explains it. Rather rude people too, which is surprising, since everywhere else they are quite nice though. Or people in Fort Williams are the worst in Scotland. Hafspajen (talk) 17:27, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hm, should't it be a disambiguation page for this ugly unpleasant locality? Fort William, Scotland and Fort Williams ... Hafspajen (talk) 17:34, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

I just visited Edinborough and saw the the Scottish National Gallery and Niagara Falls, from the American Side first picture to the left actually, and read the text beside the painting - it is on display at the Scottish National Gallery.

Great! suppose it makes up for Fort William Chip supper and a dram of Laphroaig? Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:37, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, had chip supper with ... Irish coffee... - and saw Loch ness, Inverness, Edinborough and Portree too and climbed in the mountains of Skye. And I am extemely tired. Hafspajen (talk) 19:44, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Vhy do you make fish and chips so big? Hafspajen (talk) 21:21, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

You're having a whale of a time then? Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:37, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Just never could finish it. But any time I tried it it was too big. Hafspajen (talk) 14:19, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

very empty page this one... thanks for your wonderful edits Hafspajen (talk) 13:35, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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Edward Gibbon

Xanty, ... Wivenhoe Park (painting) ... added more ... translated - from by books. Hafspajen (talk) 16:54, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

• And ... The Rocket (painting). Why can't people vote on a picture without me writing a new article on them each time? ^{Full of terrible grammar mistakes of course. Thanks for taking care of them...} Hafspajen (talk) 19:03, 21 November 2014 (UTC) ‎

Very good. Hafspajen (talk) 20:01, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Interesting article- interesting painter, Was reading "Dictionary of British Watercolour Artists to 1920" last night- some funny remarks about some very obscure painters. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 20:35, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Like ...? Hafspajen (talk) 22:29, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Coming up (just fetching book) Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:31, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

All this archiving. I have a certain feeling I lost a painter somewhere. Or two. Hafspajen (talk) 22:32, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Link's at the top of this page. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:34, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Sigh, not the same, (I meant both yours and mine) - where is the funny part? Hafspajen (talk) 22:48, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

INCHBOLD, John William: His poetry is probably more attractive than his painting.

HUNT, William Howes: His work is good enough to make one wish that it were better.

PEPPERCORN, Alfred Douglas: All in all, he is a very dull artist.

PATON, Sir Joseph Noel: His work was immensely popular with the laity, less so among artists.

MORTIMER, Thomas: He is sometimes miscatalogued as ‘F. Mortimer”, due to a large full stop between initial and surname.

MORTIMER John Hamilton: After a wild youth, he married a farmer’s daughter. Sober living seems to have been too much for his constitution, for he died within four years.

MARTIN, Jonathan: (Brother of John Martin (painter)) His most notable act was setting fire to York Minster.

MARKES, Albert Ernest: He drank a great deal, and was colour-blind, and both handicaps are evident in his work, which is dominated by grey-greens and highlights slashed into the paper with a knife.

Poor Mortimer - never marry a farmers daughter. Just see what happened to Rafael - who had kept a baker's daughter as a lover... Hafspajen (talk) 23:08, 22 November 2014 (UTC) MARTIN, Jonathan:must have been an early performance artist... MARKES, Albert Ernest too, obviously. Hafspajen (talk) 23:12, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

I read that he was little, kinda ugly and loved to put on fancy clothes -looks like it's true. Hafspajen (talk) 23:29, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

AAAA... they doing the mess around ... now don't touch that !! Hafspajen (talk) 17:53, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm, Albert Ernest Markes apparently signed "Albert" and did marine scenes. Those I see on the web suggest he was inadvertently before his time with the limited palette, but the palette knife trick I will file away for future use. Tantalising. Not sure it wouldn't get AfD'd if I wrote him up. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:01, 30 November 2014 (UTC) ... and more. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:03, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

I suppose grey-green is quite appropriate for marine paintings! Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:38, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Nom?

Do you feel like DYK -ing The Rocket (painting)? Hafspajen (talk) 15:00, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Okay, later on. Gotta go out now. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 15:05, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Done- now my brain needs a rest. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:55, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

.Yep, hard work. Hafspajen (talk) 23:32, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

COI review

Hi Xanthomelanoussprog. I noticed you've chimed in on a couple posts of mine on user:Drmies' Talk page regarding my sponsored contributions. A quick look at your contribs also shows some collaboration with user:Crisco 1492, whos Talk page I'm a regular on, but it looked like your primary interest was in art pages?

I was wondering if you had an interest in chipping in on stuff like this and this on pages where I have a COI. The first being a draft article intended to get the page ready for a "Good Article" nomination and review, while the second is some obviously poorly-sourced material cited to a crowd-sourced review site.

Noting that your interests (at a glance) looks to be in art, as oppose to the types of business pages I usually work on, I wasn't sure if you'd like to chip in on this stuff or not. CorporateM (Talk) 01:58, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Corp, sorry for late reply- I'll be happy to help out. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:11, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Awesome! Just wanted to check-in and see if this was still on your radar. CorporateM (Talk) 22:54, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

oh it is- been a bit busy of late. I'll have another read of it tomorrow and make some comments (constructive I hope!) Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh, well I just asked for comments, but didn't say they had to be constructive (*chuckle) CorporateM (Talk) 00:49, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

FYI - user:Prelude after noon picked it up. He/she had mentioned on Jimbo's Talk page in a general discussion about paid editing that my version was obviously better and I invited him/her to consider the Request Edit if he/she had time. Per my usual, it is nominated for GA now. If you ever have an interest in chipping in, the Bright Line process leaves me indefinitely seeking a bottomless volume of collaboration and I am always needy for the time and attention of other editors. CorporateM (Talk) 14:01, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

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Our English Coasts, 1852 (`Strayed Sheep') at Smarthistory

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Ah, than no problem, next week. it has to go in here -> Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2014-12-03/Featured content. Hafspajen (talk) 22:09, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

oh, it's there already. Hafspajen (talk) 22:11, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Here's a box, we can do an article to, if you think.http://www.victorianweb.org/painting/whh/replete/coasts.html Hafspajen (talk) 02:13, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

kinda a life insurance. Hafspajen (talk) 16:25, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Those sheep need it . Saw a small George Vicat Cole earlier- reserve of £70- comes up on Tuesday- not very good- it's the size of a postcard, dull woodland scene. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 16:37, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

That's lovely. Could you pull yourself of for a second from the enchanting world of your art purchases and check out this?

Featured articles

A LOT of featured articles were promoted this week.

Caption of first Featured article side image (preferably from a FA)

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• ARTICLE ([[ |nominated]] by [[User: | ]]) Description.
• Pah Wongso Pendekar Boediman ([[ |nominated]] by [[User: | ]]) Description.
• Paraceratherium ([[ |nominated]] by [[User: | ]]) Description.
• Ford Island ([[ |nominated]] by [[User: | ]]) Description.
• Garnet Malley ([[ |nominated]] by [[User: | ]]) Description.
• William Beach Thomas ([[ |nominated]] by [[User: | ]]) Description.
• U.S. Route 45 in Michigan ([[ |nominated]] by [[User: | ]]) Description.
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• Lightning (Final Fantasy) ([[ |nominated]] by [[User: | ]]) Description.
• Léal Souvenir ([[ |nominated]] by [[User: | ]]) Description.
• The Fifth Element ([[ |nominated]] by [[User: | ]]) Description.

Anything you can give a hand with? (Copy your or additions before saving them - to avoid edit conflicting - I am on the Featured Pics.) Hafspajen (talk) 16:29, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

And when you bought that Vicat, will you take a picture of it (without glare) - we don't have ANY of his works, only a picture made OF HIM, by another painter, bit of shame. Hafspajen (talk) 18:25, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Catalogue says 'Attributed to George Vicat Cole Woodland landscape bears signature"- it's in a gilt frame with his name printed in black. Looks to me like a sketch done on a dark evening in a wood whilst jogging. There's also a couple of Rowland Hilders- and he's the Turner de nos jours! I'll have a look later at stuff. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:33, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Paintings done dark evenings while jogging are often just great. Yes, we would need some -well - lot - help and Adam is away, 11 articles! huh. Hafspajen (talk) 20:18, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Okay, just got back home and now off to bed (early start tomorrow to go to Nottingham/Lincoln). I'll do something on Ford Island tomorrow evening, and then tackle another. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:33, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

OK:Hafspajen (talk) 23:19, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Leave this into your hands today. Hafspajen (talk) 09:53, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

A sign on a pub in London advertises "Magnet Ales"

Well, I took Pah Wongso Pendekar Boediman, since I am ready with the pics. Take next Léal Souvenir and William Beach Thomas- and Might take Garnet Malley and the highway too, later. But leave Paraceratherium, The Fifth Element, Ford Island, Australian raven and Lightning (Final Fantasy) too you. Hafspajen (talk) 20:53, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Okay- I've just settled down to the computer, with a beer cup of tea and a mission Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:18, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

16-year-old can of John Smith's Tetley- it was rusty inside. Got enough iron in my diet. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:24, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Is that the trophy of the day? Don't bother about the rust, it can be cleaned. Though, one would expect that they don't only clean the outside of it.... Hafspajen (talk) 22:19, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Didn't improve the taste at all- my friend found it in her larder. No, I don't know either… Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:25, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Our English Coasts, 1852 ('Strayed Sheep')

DYK for Auguste Bonheur

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 18:28, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

What do you know, this made it, finally. Hafspajen (talk) 20:10, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

The bad new or good news- is that this is your nr 5. Alexander Roslin, Rudolf Koeller, Fog warning, the Window, + Auguste Hafspajen (talk) 20:35, 2 December 2014 (UTC) Now you have to review first 1 before nominate next. Hafspajen (talk) 20:51, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

• Good old Marcel Rieder...Hafspajen (talk) 02:32, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Niagara Falls, from the American Side

Belshazzar's Feast

Hafspajen, one of the article's creators, has requested that your nomination of this article be withdrawn from DYK. Can you please post your concurrence (or disagreement) on the nomination page as soon as possible? Since it was your nomination, this decision is yours—we are happy to follow your wishes in the matter. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:34, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry - but sometimes one get one or two reviewers that they just do the most unknowledgeable changes and then expect that one should do what they want you to do. This time it was bad luck - and it is weird to be forced to accept downright wrong content change - when it is just plainly wrong. And after you made them right again, there comes the other one - that was not necessary... your edits has nothing to do with the subject... oh, really? I know what I am talking about when it comes to art history - it DID everything to do with the subject. And on top of evrything that sneaky -we need a new review because copyvio issues? Hafspajen (talk) 16:16, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

It was pretty odd behaviour- someone jumping in with size ten feet. I've got another artist in my sandbox- Tessa Beaver- never heard of her till yesterday when I found one of her etchings in a charity shop. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 16:25, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

• Yes it was really odd, nobody goes into others DYKs, unless invited. How exiting!! Very good idea. I am a bit disappointed though you haven't noticed the changes in Mr Beech Thomas entry written entirely for you. Hafspajen (talk) 21:20, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh thanks- been away from the computer, watching a film at the cinema (Human Capital), haven't checked yet. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:42, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

And the exciting small details? Beach Thomas's primary interest as an adult was sheep'. He was active in the creation of the national parks in England and Wales, and mourned the decline of the sheep. His book published The English Landscape in 1938 include contributions to Country Life magazine. Hafspajen (talk) 21:53, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that- you naughty naughty Hafs! Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:10, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Jag är en Gummi- Björn, den lilla söta Gummy- Björn - hahahaha! Björn (talk) 23:30, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Hombre Bola!!! Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 23:36, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

• ojaje ...hey when get married I want these guy to be there [1] Björn (talk) 23:54, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Ar, bad article Hafspajen (talk) 01:39, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Franz Xaver Petter

Hi, I'm Xcia0069. Xanthomelanoussprog, thanks for creating Franz Xaver Petter!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Good start but it needs references (footnotes and citations) to be a proper Wikipedia article :)

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. Xcia0069 (talk) 08:34, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, indeed. Hafspajen (talk) 16:01, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

A new article before breakfast. Whenever you want to make two ....Hafspajen (talk) 16:08, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, if you care for more... I have some ideas.. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Pleuer - Herman is not represented yet. Hafspajen (talk) 20:33, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

For you

	Congratulation on your 28-th article you created
	Congratulation on your 28-th article you created ..or so. Hafspajen (talk) 16:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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The Fifth Element. Hafspajen (talk) 06:04, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Dig a link for December 6

Hi. It's all about you you you. Move this message. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 09:05, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, I am really amazed by this guy, Xanty. Hafspajen (talk) 16:54, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Ah the new Signpost arrived. FP Starts with Genital mutilation...Hafspajen (talk) 21:43, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Ah, women...

Evil Edith's red lips

men are better caracters

Can you imagine that Hunt's wife engaged an other studio assistant painter when his husband became ill and made him paint her waist slimmer and her lips more red? A painter should never marry. Women are crazy. page 162 Pss, how disrespectful. Hafspajen (talk) 18:14, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

…and men are blind On the other hand, he might have had a subconscious tendency to make women plump. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 18:25, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Is that the painting? Not surprised she wanted her lips more red- they're competing with a red coral necklace and an intense pink hairband- she probably looked anemic. How many peacocks died to make that cloak, eh? Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 18:58, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Ar, I have one of those days when I think women are stupid, false, narrow minded and hysterical and only care for their precious feelings, while try being seductive - and go on crying on peoples shoulders, oh, feel sorry for me ... Hafspajen (talk) 19:05, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

That's quite a combination! Would give me a bad headache. When life gets too much I always want to go to Bridgnorth Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:16, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

What's in Bridgnorth that can cheer up? The Bridgnorth Cliff Railway? Hafspajen (talk) 19:48, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Severn Valley Railway, castle gardens, old houses with caves, River Severn, fish and chip shops, Shropshire scenery. Nearby is Clun etc. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:51, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Sorry

I apologise for this edit summary, Xantho, I didn't mean it to sound the way it does. Bishonen | talk 21:26, 7 December 2014 (UTC).

Even though the apology was neither needed nor expected, I think you've just gained a friend! Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:47, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

"Surely" is a pretty snarky word fo sure, typical of the way Bishonen talks. Go ahead and call her Shirley! darwinbish ^BITE ☠ 23:17, 7 December 2014 (UTC).

Sure

No problem. It is much better like that! Hafspajen (talk) 23:45, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Christian Goller

Othello "xanthomelanous" (black hair, yellow skin). and Desdemona by Alexandre-Marie Colin.

I was just looking at the image you added to Christian Goller of justice with a serpent, and I couldn't find the serpent. Where is the serpent in that picture? CorinneSD (talk) 20:01, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Ha! Had me worried there! It's apparently the way he signed his paintings, and is the squiggle under the year. Something here on the subject (haven't read it myself yet). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:09, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Interesting! The reference to the serpent must be simply the symbol that Cranach used as his signature. What Cranach felt the serpent symbolized is not clear. CorinneSD (talk) 21:57, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

I just saw the change you made to the caption. I don't see the serpent signature, do you? Do you think it's somehow incorporated into the lines of the figures, or do you think it got cut off when the photo was taken? CorinneSD (talk) 22:01, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Just checked the original Christie's page- I didn't realise it at the time, but there was another level of zoom (I pasted together several screen grabs to make the image). This shows clearly a serpentine line underneath the year, with a crown or starburst above it. Guess I'm going to have to paste together a larger image! (groan- it only shows about an eighth at a time). I think the whole painting is shown. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:41, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for creating more work for you. By the way, how did you come up with your interesting user name? CorinneSD (talk) 22:47, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

A friend years ago devised a psychological test, in which the word "xanthomelanous" was used (black hair, yellow skin). . My father used to do the Times crossword (which I find impossible). One day he was stuck on a clue- the answer was of course "xanthomelanous". The only answer I ever got! And somehow I stuck "sprog" at the end when I needed an alias somewhere- just thought I'd re-use it. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:54, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh... Thanks for the explanation! CorinneSD (talk) 22:57, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

WHATT!! not an other red link artist... Hafspajen (talk) 01:24, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh, thank God. Alexandre-Marie Colin. Hafspajen (talk) 01:25, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Xanth, I hope you don't mind that I did some re-wording in the article. I have a question. In the middle of the second paragraph is the following sentence:

• His analysis of pigments from the painting showed the presence of processed chalk and the absence of silver traces in the lead paint, both indicating that the painting was not genuine.

Then, in the second-to-last paragraph is the following sentence:

• He adds that Goller’s palette is limited to a few dull colours and that an analysis of the the chemical composition of the pigments in these paintings, such as white lead, shows that the pigments used are typical of the 16th century.

It seems to me that the second half of this sentence and the entire first sentence contradict each other (regarding pigments and what they say about the genuineness of the painting or paintings). Am I reading this wrong, or is some clarification or change needed? CorinneSD (talk) 20:50, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, just sat through a two-hour film in a crowded cinema thinking "I wish the b… actors would get out of the way of the scenery". Kevin Kline is now banned from my talk page. Anyway, what it should mean is that the pigments used are the same chemicals as would have been used in the 16th century, however the trace impurity of silver that should be in the lead is missing. Silver is commonly found associated with lead in lead ore- modern methods of extraction remove the silver, hence lead white without silver is modern. With regards to the chalk (this is presumably used in the priming of the painting) the chalk is too finely milled to be authentic. Hope that's a bit clearer- thanks very much for going through the article. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:42, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. I think both sentences are fine as they are now, except I think that the second sentence should say:

• He adds that Goller’s palette is limited to a few dull colours and that an analysis of the the chemical composition of the pigments in these paintings, such as white lead, shows that the pigments he used are not typical of the 16th century.

If the pigments Goller used are not typical of the 16th century, the paintings could not have been painted in the 16th century, right? If I am right, the sentence is missing "not". For clarity, I would add that these pigments are modern:

• ...and that an analysis of the chemical composition of the pigments in these paintings, such as white lead, shows that the pigments are modern and not typical of the 16th century.

CorinneSD (talk) 03:48, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

I'll reword it in a bit- was just in the process of doing it when I realised I'd conflated the chemical analysis of the pigments with Hofbauer's statement. The analysis, revealing the traces of silver etc. is of the Justitia fake; Hofbauer made his comment about the pigments in relation to the 60 plus paintings he has suspicions about. However I'm unsure as to whether Hofbauer is extrapolating from the Justitia ananlysis or is referring to subsequent analyses on other paintings. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 08:36, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Okay, done- but I've probably made a pig's ear of it. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 09:46, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Not at all, silk purse! BTW I thought "[B]ut Koepplin was unsure as to what had been made" wasn't entirely clear. Following the source ([Koepplin] kannte Goller, wusste, dass er dubiose Werke fabriziert, aber nicht genau was) I've changed it to "though not which paintings they were" (also added that K had known G). Can probably be improved! Bishonen | talk 10:40, 11 December 2014 (UTC).

Many thanks!! It wasn't clear to me (via Google translate) what Hofbauer was referring to; notes that Koepplin had made that H. had acquired, or letters from K. to H. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 12:37, 11 December 2014 (U

I'm sorry, but, in spite of your (Xanthy's) recent edits to that very sentence, I'm still confused. As I outlined above, it is not clear to me how finding that pigments were typical of those used in the 16th century supports the claim that Goller forged paintings. Here is the sentence as it is now:

File:Reclining Nude (4758026756).jpg

• He adds that the palette is limited to a few dull colours and that an analysis of the chemical composition of the pigments in these paintings, such as white lead, shows that the pigments used in the paintings are typical of those that would have been used in the 16th century.

CorinneSD (talk) 16:09, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure either- I included it as a statement of fact rather than a sign of guilt. Part of the problem may be that I'm trying to keep away from having the article say Goller's responsible for any paintings other than the one he admitted to painting. The Bendor Grosvenor blog has a bit more on the Charles V painting (on the left in the article)- the collar of the Order of the Golden Fleece across his chest should be gold, not red, and the badge of the Order is missing. The problem is to "authenticate" that as a Goller; I suspect the chain of agents between auction house and painter is probably very murky. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:12, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Ask him to send you a fake Cranach. Hafspajen (talk) 21:42, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, thanks to Hofbauer we know where he's going wrong- could give him some advice Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 04:26, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Xanty - do you feel like LIKE writing a nice Long long entry on Hillary Rodham Clinton? Only one featured article - so plenty of place. Hafspajen (talk) 03:49, 18 December 2014 (UTC) ..*? Hafspajen (talk) 10:40, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Don't know nuffink about her, Hafs. (apart from she's married to Bill). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 10:50, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, you knew nothing about female mutilation either. ^{I sincerely hope so.} Hafspajen (talk) 11:31, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2014-12-24/Featured content ... Hafspajen (talk) 11:32, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh right! I'll get on with it tonight. Slow on the uptake, me Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 11:46, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I am afraid it is rather bad art, yes, wouldn't like to have it even if they would give it away for free. Hafspajen (talk) 13:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Orgies

Hafspajen (talk) 15:35, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Lucy

Happy Saint Lucia's day!

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13 December is the day when Swedes perplex the rest of the world by showing up way too early in the morning dressed in white tunics, candles in their hair, singing and bringing saffron buns and breakfast in bed to nice people. Hope you have a bright day! Hafspajen (talk) 09:23, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for The Rocket (painting)

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Hi, Xanthomelanoussprog, looking at this, I feel pretty sure I made a a mistake there. Can you confirm, so I can remove it from the page and add it to another article? It is such a fine picture, it should be on an article, somewhere. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 20:22, 16 December 2014 (UTC) Hi Lotje- if you mean my comment, it was a joke about "tiffin" and "tiff"- sorry if it has mislead you. The original title is "Our First Tiff", but they are having tiffin- so they're having a tiff over tiffin! They look old enough to have had several dozen tiffs, mind you! I've removed the painting from the definition. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 23:02, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

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Can't find this artist anywhere.

Alexander Pope

Not that Pope (21 May 1688 – 30 May 1744). Hafspajen (talk) 19:54, 20 December 2014 (UTC) This is Alexander Pope (American, 1849-1924). Emblems of the Civil War, 1888. Oil on canvas, Hafspajen (talk) 19:55, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Alexander Pope, Jr.- seems to have been a sculptor. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:10, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

A number of artists best known for one field have surprisingly good works in another. Take Gustave Doré's oil paintings. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 15:59, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that really surprised me! Eduardo Paolozzi- screenprints, sculptures and a London Underground station. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 16:21, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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Just to note, the New Year's Eve FC is at what I like to think of as the "Lorem ipsum" stage - all the layout done, but still needing the text. Feel free to join in, but we have a week and a half before it needs to be done, so don't worry too much. =) Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 15:42, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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Balsam of Peru deletions

It is true that the sources do not explicitly mention all uses of balsam of Peru. But, what you deleted is an obvious extension to the use in microscopy glass and, obvious knowledge to anybody versed in the art. And, it does not take too much of a leap of reasoning to notice, or at least to give the benefit of the doubt, the analogy of the uses of balsam of Peru that you deleted, to the use in microscopy. Like most contributors to Wikipedia, I wrote what I knew from my own professional experience and from what I read in the past but, it may not be obvious to some reader not versed in optics, and it may be worth including what you deleted for somebody that is learning about uses of balsam of Peru for the first time, and might not imagine other obvious uses. I don't have citations right now that explicitly say exactly what you want but, we can always insert "(Citation needed)" next to the text, so that more references would eventually be added to the obvious. 98.217.155.45 (talk) 01:49, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

That's because it's not used to cement camera lenses- the stuff is a viscous liquid at room temperature. Note that on this page there's no melting point given. If Balsam of Peru was used in lenses, it would leak out. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 06:09, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Okay->here. Balsam of Peru is a liquid...On exposure to air it does not become hard...The chief constituent of this balsam appears to be cinnamein...The melting point of artificially-prepared cinnamein (Grimaux) is 39° C. (102.2° F.)Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 13:53, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

It sounds that you've never used it so you do not understand. Purified balsam of Peru used for microscopy, and to glue other optical glass, becomes hard enough to fit the purpose (extremely viscous), that is why it is useful and sold for that purpose. Balsam of Peru contains 50% to 64% volatile oil and 20% to 28% resin, see here. It also contains dissolved crystalline compounds, as described here. "Volatile oils" means exactly that, they evaporate. That is why initially you can smell such a fragrant scent. Pure Canada balsam is also a liquid at room temperature but, when the volatile oils evaporate, it hardens. Grant you that I've never seen Balsam of Peru harden as much as Canada balsam. It reaches a hard sticky tar-like consistency. The hardening is fastest in thin layers, as it is used for it's transparency. And, it won't "leak out" lol. By now, we are only talking about the deletion of: "such as for bonding lenses and other optical elements made out of glass to each other". Even if the cited references do not list all the uses of balsam of Peru in optics besides the use in microscopy glass, it is obvious, at least to with some common sense, or logic reasoning, that balsam of Peru could also be used to glue other optical elements that match the properties described in the remainder of the text. I didn't have to have known this, I could have deduced it. However, it may not occur to some readers not versed in optics, that balsam of Peru can also be used for bonding lenses and other optical elements made out of glass to each other. I hope that with some clarifications, those statements became obvious to you too. It is worth including them for those readers that may not imagine those other obvious uses. Wikipedia allows deductive reasoning within an article, without labeling it as either original research or synthesis of published material. [I should point out that there is no need to verify statements that are patently obvious]. 98.217.155.45 (talk) 16:20, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

The Canada balsam used to cement camera lenses is dried (it has 27% volatile oils, as against Peru's 50 to 64%) which is then dissolved in xylene and applied to the objectives. The solvent evaporates around the rim of the objective, leaving a solid joint between the two elements. Note that this joint is vertical, for which orientation Balsam of Peru won't be suitable- it remains viscous and will flow. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:19, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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