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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communards#mediaviewer/File:Barricade_Voltaire_Lenoir_Commune_Paris_1871.jpg The people in this picture are described in this article as being Communards, but in the Paris Commune article as being Thiers loyalist regular soldiers. Is there a source available to resolve the issue? 86.153.60.132 (talk) 11:04, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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the article for Adolphe Thiers puts the death toll much higher at 30,000-100,000Paul E. Ester 05:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Communards or Communeux

I have read several French sources which refer to the Communards as les Communeux. It seems especially common for earlier, contemporary sources. I think there should be a way for people who are unfamiliar with the Commune to find this article by searching for "communeux"--Unclebanglin (talk) 04:31, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

     Opponents of the Commune called the Communards "les Communeux". This word had at the beginning a pejorative connotation.

               http://artflx.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/dicos/pubdico1look.pl?strippedhw=communeux&dicoid=LITTRE1872  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winoc'h (talk • contribs) 13:20, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Communards defined by what finally happened to them?

In the introduction of this article, the communards are defined not by what they thought, said, or did, but by what finally happened to them. Then the article goes on to claim that "The working class of Paris were feeling ostracized after the decadence of the Second Empire and the Franco-Prussian War", and that "Out of resentment from this situation grew radical and socialist political clubs and newspapers". This seems to be a dogmatic interpretation of history and not a fact. Probably the fact is the other way around - that it is not poverty that creates communism, but the belief that communist is the solution to powerty?--83.108.21.61 (talk) 06:50, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is because the French culture simply didn't care about them. To them they were the communards and the only question was how to neutralize them. The name communard was probably given to them by the French state and probably not what they called themselves.

What they believed was probably purged from common knowledge as the French elite saw it as dangerous ideas. 69.171.131.97 (talk) 19:49, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 == Communards defined by what finally happened to them? ==
 In the introduction of this article, the communards are defined not by what they thought, said, or did, but by what finally happened to them. Then the article goes on to claim that "The working class of Paris were feeling ostracized after the decadence of the Second Empire and the Franco-Prussian War", and that "Out of resentment from this situation grew radical and socialist political clubs and newspapers". This seems to be a dogmatic interpretation of history and not a fact. Probably the fact is the other way around - that it is not poverty that creates communism, but the belief that communist is the solution to powerty?--[[Special:Contributions/83.108.21.61|83.108.21.61]] ([[User talk:83.108.21.61|talk]]) 06:50, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
+I think this is because the French culture simply didn't care about them. To them they were the communards and the only question was how to neutralize them. The name communard was probably given to them by the French state and probably not what they called themselves.
+What they believed was probably purged from common knowledge as the French elite saw it as dangerous ideas.
+[[Special:Contributions/69.171.131.97|69.171.131.97]] ([[User talk:69.171.131.97|talk]]) 19:49, 27 December 2014 (UTC)