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Hi. From time to time I move pertinent info to an archive page, which can be found here: User:Onel5969/Talk from December 2013 - present month (Edited to remove insignificant sections) First manual archive

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Reversion of change to John Wick (film)

Reply in change to John Wick (film) I made this change using the Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Film to provide a summary to users who have not yet seen the film and would like to read a plot summary without reading the plot to the entire movie. I believe this change is in accordance with the style guide and other film pages and that page is better with it. Thegrs (talk) 21:32, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

RE: Recent edit to Return of the Jedi

"My understanding, from the sources, is that it was originally released simply as Return of the Jedi, and later the Star Wars episode was added."

I'm afraid not. Both Empire and Jedi were both theatrically released as "Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back" on May 21, 1980, and "Star Wars Episode VI: Return Of The Jedi" on May 25, 1983. They were not changed for the Special Editions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 00717F (talk • contribs) 23:04, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

List of Are You Being Served? characters

Why did you revert my last edit to List of Are You Being Served? characters?-2601:8:3200:5F8:4D7C:3F7B:5FF8:9D64 (talk) 00:40, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Because it made absolutely no sense. Onel5969 (talk) 04:16, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Ditmar, Raymond Ditmars filmmaker

Dear Onel1959,

Raymond Ditmar was a herpetologist and yes, a great silent filmmaker! Have a look at the biography, I have added two silent movies. Ditmar was a great naturalist and scientific film maker about biology - you can also check with IMdB. So i hope you agree when i revert your change. Thanks, Hansmuller (talk) 12:24, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Please do not revert good edits. Let's build Wikipedia. Hansmuller (talk) 12:49, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

@Hansmuller: Hi. I don't revert good edits. I revert bad edits, ambiguous edits, unsupported edits, non-constructive edits and of course, vandalism. When I checked Ditmars wp article, there is no mention (and still isn't) of any filmmaking activity, in the body of the article. (Truth be told, I did not look at the media, since those should be in support of material in the article, it didn't occur to me that the pics/videos would be additional to the article). Might I suggest that you be bold and add that information to his article, citing the biography (imdb is not a reliable source, as per wiki guidelines), as I see you've added the imdb reference (which really should be an "External link" rather than a reference - check out other bios of film people). Happy editing! Onel5969 (talk) 13:11, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

You could just say sorry, if you delete too much (now twice), i do too! Cheers, Hansmuller (talk) 15:40, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

And you could learn what the definition of vandalism is here in wp... as well as familiarizing yourself with the concepts WP:IUC, WP:AGF. Take care. Onel5969 (talk) 16:24, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank You. Jefferey M. Gordon.

My name is Benjamin DeGonia. 626 Peacock Circle. Granite City. Illinois. 62040. I, my father and Daughter, just love to try and reach out to you. We count you as blessings. You're. Champion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.87.63 (talk) 14:34, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Without Orders

See revision. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 02:49, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

@Bzuk: - Hi! Nice work on this article. I'm working my way through all the RKO films in my spare time, trying to bring as many of them to B class as I can (although with these early films, the dearth of material can make that difficult). I'm only up to 1931 - it's a tough slog at times. Also trying to get rid of all the redlinks - either by creating articles for folks who should have them, or be simply deleting the redlink. I use a determining factor of about 25 films for actors, and 20 for production personnel.

I like the breadth of your discussion. I would probably move the note regarding the stewardess taking control of the aircraft up into the production section, rather than as simply a footnote - firsts in films are big deals and should be treated as such - especially one which has become such a standard in film.

Regarding removing the redlinks - please try not to do this. For example, in this film, the only person who most likely will never have an article is Frances Sage (who only did 3 films). May Boley may not get one either, she only had minor roles in about 25 films, but she might. Everyone else worked on more than 50 films, and when I get to this film, they'll all get articles. But some of them will get articles before then, such as Charles Kerr... When I get to Traveling Husbands, he'll get his own article, so the redlink will go away at that time. I hope that all made sense. Btw... also an old pilot here.

Regardless, nice work. And I really appreciate you taking the time to let me know you were working on the article. Hopefully, we can work together in the future. Onel5969 (talk) 14:57, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi One. Nice to hear from you. I do appreciate your resolve and commitment to improving the wikiwacky wonderland. As I had worked in film documentaries for many years, it has become an interest of mine, especially in Canadian aviation films, to chronicle the many obscure and minor films that are out there. As to some of your comments, the reasoning behind the separate note to readers was that the assertion that a "first" occurred in Without Orders was not as well documented as I would have liked. I tried to corroborate the claim and was not sure that the author was correct. As to "red-links", I guess I have been a bit too callous about who will or will not actually be a future wikilinked subject. I used to leave them all in place, and was chided about the lack of referencing that exists when a reader comes upon a "forest of red". The idea that you are working on creating real links to eliminate the "redlinks" is commendable. I often just run out of steam as I revise an article. I am, and have been, an old "veteran" pilot, writer (someone, as a joke, named me as an RCAF historian), librarian (by trade) and commercial artist (in order to stay broke through my formative years). Now, working on Sky Giant, another Lew Landers 1938 production. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 15:59, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Highly inaccurate data

You reverted my edit on Kanasi City, Missouri's Irish population. It originally said the Irish population of Kansas City is 250,000. That seemed highly suspect to me since that is 1/3 of the entire population! I went and looked up the actual data which says ~50,000. I updated and provided references. You reverted my hard work to reinstate faulty numbers. Why? This is bad editing and bad for community. Why should I do hard work of improving the accuracy of articles only to have it REMOVED entirely? If you think that is better to use a rough estimate, then update it to an estimate, based on current data. If you want to use historical data, then use the past tense. Frankly, I doubt there were ever 250,000 Irish people in Kansas City unless for some bizarre reason the population used to be much much higher than it is now. Are you trying to deceive people? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajobin (talk • contribs) 15:50, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

You're absolutely correct, bad editing is bad for the community, which is why your original edit was reverted; per WP it was way too specific, and in addition you removed cited information. The change that you have now added to the article is much better. Might I suggest that your familiarize yourself with WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL? Onel5969 (talk) 19:28, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

I did not remove the citation. I removed the inaccurate information which said that the Irish American population is 250,000 when in fact it is only 50,000. You deleted my accurate citation and reinstated the faulty number. Honestly, I don't believe that number belongs there. It has no date attached to it and is unlikely that it was true whenever it was added. The only reason I left it there was so you wouldn't revert the true figure again.Ajobin (talk) 00:46, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Do you really believe that the 250,000 number could have been accurate when it was added? I suspect it was always incorrect. Why did you insist on reverting to that number? Why did you delete my number which had a reliable and verifiable online source? If your concern was truly that it was too specific, then you could have just changed it to a more general number, like I did ... after you deleted my work ... including my citation. I never deleted anyone's citation. I just removed the inaccurate information saying that the population is 250k. Do you insist on keeping the inaccurate number and why?Ajobin (talk) 07:49, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry that I impugned your motives, but I would like you to explain them. You removed a verifiable source (rather than just changing it to the rough estimate you prefer) and reinstated a unverifiable primary reference source with an estimate which is 5 times the verifiable number. Why? Ajobin (talk) 08:26, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

There is no reason to believe that number was true when it was added. It is 5 times the present number. I am going to remove it. If it had been a reference to the past, I might try to obtain the book to check. But is was worded in the present tense, which is highly inaccurate. I will preserve the reference. Ajobin (talk) 23:46, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Notability

Hi there... I was under the impression that notable alumni lists did not necessarily need to have linked articles for each name (as per Wikipedia:Notable alumni) as long as they could meet the criteria of notability with cited sources. Would a news reporter on a major television network (well in this case their local CT affiliate) not qualify? Not asking you to revert it back, just clarification for the future as I'm still new to Wikipedia. Thanks. IrishRhino (talk) 14:12, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi IrishRhino - You're absolutely right, having your own article is only a good indication of whether or not someone is notable, but it's almost always correct. I think one of the reasons is a single citation next to a name doesn't prove notability. When there is a redlink without sources, it's simple, delete the entry. Your entry, (and btw, like what you've done on this list), had a reference, so I do a quick Bing/Google search, and that local newscaster didn't seem to meet the requirements of WP:NOTABILITY. The problem with "notable lists" is that they are borderline trivia, not that they are, but there has been much discussion about their inclusion. That was one of the reasons the guideline regarding their own article was put into the guidelines. Another issue (which has no bearing on this particular edit, but since you said you were new) is how is that person related to a particular city. If they were born there, that's a no-brainer; as is if they lived there for any appreciable time. If a town has a noted college/university, famous alumni, if their only connection with that city is attending that institution, usually go on a separate list, just so it's clear what their relationship with the city is. Same with cities which have a large military installation nearby (here in Phoenix, that would be Luke AFB, for example). Thanks for asking, btw, definitely a good thing on WP... hope this answer helps clarify. Onel5969 (talk) 14:46, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Onel5969 and thanks again for the tips... it makes sense. I think that for some people, notability can actually be a little confusing at times for because it's quite relative. Especially when dealing with small towns/communities. Anyway, thanks again for your help!IrishRhino (talk) 18:02, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Pretty Cure Episodes

Hi there. I'm complaining about a user with IP: 116.123.152.199 who adds unnecessary info to the pretty cure episode summaries. This has been happening for ahwile and I left wikipdea because I felt unappreciated....then when I came back the useless lines were there again! The user keeps adding info on future series to the following pages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Futari_wa_Pretty_Cure_Max_Heart_episodes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Futari_wa_Pretty_Cure_Splash_Star_episodes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yes!_PreCure_5_GoGo!_episodes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fresh_Pretty_Cure!_episodes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HeartCatch_PreCure_episodes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Suite_PreCure_episodes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Smile_PreCure!_episodes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DokiDoki!_Precure_episodes

it's usually something like "what will happen to XX characters" from the next series who do not even appear in the last episode. In the series cannon each year(minus the sequels) is a full reboot. Adding any characters from future series makes no sense. I thought I'd come to you as you seemed like a mod and I don't wana get involved in a edit war Darkcat1 (talk) 21:27, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

@Darkcat1: - Hi! Yeah, these ip edits keep coming up on the vandalism program I use. I'm not an admin, however, just an editor trying to help out when I can. One thing I can do (and just did) was to request that an admin put all 8 of the pages under "page protection", which means that only confirmed users (no ips) can make edits. It can take a day or two for someone to get around to it, but considering the number of times these ips have been reverted, I can't see why they wouldn't. Right now, I monitor about 1500 pages, so I can't specifically keep taking a look at these, but let me know if they aren't protected by Sunday, and I'll see if I can't contact an admin directly. There's one or two I speak with occasionally. Hope this helps, and keep editing. Onel5969 (talk) 23:45, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Copyright checks when performing AfC reviews

Hello Onel5969. This message is part of a mass mailing to people who appear active in reviewing articles for creation submissions. First of all, thank you for taking part in this important work! I'm sorry this message is a form letter – it really was the only way I could think of to covey the issue economically. Of course, this also means that I have not looked to see whether the matter is applicable to you in particular.

The issue is in rather large numbers of copyright violations ("copyvios") making their way through AfC reviews without being detected (even when easy to check, and even when hallmarks of copyvios in the text that should have invited a check, were glaring). A second issue is the correct method of dealing with them when discovered.

If you don't do so already, I'd like to ask for your to help with this problem by taking on the practice of performing a copyvio check as the first step in any AfC review. The most basic method is to simply copy a unique but small portion of text from the draft body and run it through a search engine in quotation marks. Trying this from two different paragraphs is recommended. (If you have any question about whether the text was copied from the draft, rather than the other way around (a "backwards copyvio"), the Wayback Machine is very useful for sussing that out.)

If you do find a copyright violation, please do not decline the draft on that basis. Copyright violations need to be dealt with immediately as they may harm those whose content is being used and expose Wikipedia to potential legal liability. If the draft is substantially a copyvio, and there's no non-infringing version to revert to, please mark the page for speedy deletion right away using {{db-g12|url=URL of source}}. If there is an assertion of permission, please replace the draft article's content with {{subst:copyvio|url=URL of source}}.

Some of the more obvious indicia of a copyvio are use of the first person ("we/our/us..."), phrases like "this site", or apparent artifacts of content written for somewhere else ("top", "go to top", "next page", "click here", use of smartquotes, etc.); inappropriate tone of voice, such as an overly informal tone or a very slanted marketing voice with weasel words; including intellectual property symbols (™,®); and blocks of text being added all at once in a finished form with no misspellings or other errors.

I hope this message finds you well and thanks again you for your efforts in this area. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC).

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Reference to the edit on Karachi page

Hi there. Thank you for informing about the change you just undid. Well, I thought it was good to mention about "Fatimiyah School" in that article as it is also a similar community school as Al-Murtaza school. This was the reason I placed it next to Al-Murtaza School. Also, you can find the name of Fatimiyah School in the article "List of schools in Karachi" here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_schools_in_Karachi#Private_schools

Hi. While no hard and fast "rule" exists, the guideline is for something added to a list to have it's own article. This makes it likely that the subject has passed the notability guidelines. WP:ISNOT shows that WP is not simply a list of trivial information. Articles tend to pick up lots of non-notable list entries as folks in GF add their favorite item to the list. Notability is a way to reduce the number added, and make articles more noteworthy. You're right, though, there are several other schools on that list which should probably be removed. Onel5969 (talk) 12:40, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

November GOCE drive comments

Hope you weren't too upset about your copyedit being critiqued; I get 'em too, and was surprised (since I'm a GOCE coordinator) at first. I don't know if you're aware of the serious quality issues we've had in recent months, which may have led to an excess of caution. We're all volunteers, doing this on a time-permitting basis (and since my basement is flooding at the moment I, for one, have been especially pressed for time), and do the best we can. I appreciate your help, and hope you'll continue. Happy Thanksgiving from fellow former New Yorker Miniapolis 01:24, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

@Miniapolis: - Hi! Well, to tell you the truth, some of the changes the other editor did were spot on, particularly in the opening paragraph where I simply dropped the ball on the tense (should be present). But other than that, there was only a single other edit which made the article stronger. The vast majority of the other editor's work was either inferior, or a null change (meaning it was simply a different interpretation, neither weaker or stronger). But, as you said, we're all volunteers here, and to have Bafflegab comment like that, after I've done some pretty strong (and extensive) copyediting work, I just don't need that negativity. I joined the group at the suggestion of my first mentor here on WP, Gareth Griffith-Jones, but that comment, was not only unwarranted, but incorrect. I've dropped out of the guild, and will suspend activity on c/e work for now. Will focus on other ways to help improve this community. Thanks for your kind words. Happy editing, and have an absolutely splendid Thanksgiving. Feel free to stay in touch. Onel5969 (talk) 01:42, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Just a line or two to write that I concur with your reaction, Bil, and to add that serious editors such as you and I need all the encouragement possible. Too often, coming up against such poorly written English and disruptive activity, one wonders "Why am I bothering?"
All the best to you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:51, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

I understand somewhat how you feel; my first inkling that there was a problem was here, and I've learned from volunteer experience in other fields how important it is to maintain a balance between any-old-crap-is-good-enough and a diligence which results in having to do everything myself because no one else quite measures up. Hope you return eventually; you're a good copyeditor, and WP needs good copyeditors. Happy Thanksgiving and all the best, Miniapolis 00:39, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

@Miniapolis: - Thanks for your kind words. I guess it was disappointing coming from someone of Baffle Gab's stature. I'm one of those sick individuals that actually enjoys most copy editing (although some of those articles obviously written by someone whose first language is not English is a bit tough) tasks, so I might at some point start up again. This has simply soured me on it for the moment. And there is so much that needs to be done on the site, it's very easy to keep busy without c/e. Have a great Thanksgiving. Onel5969 (talk) 01:32, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it may be time for a selective wikibreak. When I periodically get annoyed or offended here (and sometimes it seems like an asylum run by the inmates :-)), it helps to walk back into RL or—as you're doing—pick another part of the playground for a while. See you around and all the best, Miniapolis 15:01, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Star Wars revert

"prior version was better" is not a good reason/explanation for a total reversion (especially of an edit by an experienced -- or more experienced -- editor). That's just your personal opinion. My edit was a change to a generally preferred style of bulleted cast (and/or characters) list. Not only an improvement of style, but also of grammar. Instead of colons, it should be commas or dashes. Here's an example: Criminal Minds#Characters. Also, I changed "included" to "includes" (present tense for fictional story). --Musdan77 (talk) 03:45, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

@Musdan77: - Sorry, not my personal opinion. Your edit left formatting issues, punctuation issues, and grammar issues. I don't disagree with your intent, but the result left too many errors. Go back to the review, and you'll see what I mean, especially after the initial line in each cast listing. And while your edit was to a different style, there is flexibility among cast lists. And colons are acceptable in that usage, although either is okay with me, it was really the formatting issue I had a problem with (also your inclusion of the "who" in the one picture caption. I hope this is a better explanation for you. Take it easy.Onel5969 (talk) 04:25, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Uh, yes, your edit summary was your opinion. Whose else was it? What formatting, punctuation, grammar issues? I don't think you know what you're talking about. If you're going to act like you know more than me (even though I have more experience), you need to give a better explanation than that. As for the caption, that is the right way to write a caption. A caption is supposed describe the image (like the one above does), not just have a sentence about the subject. So, the subject is Anthony Daniels. If it's going to be a sentence, then it would need a period. If it's not going to have a period then it should be a sentence fragment. But, right now it's neither. --Musdan77 (talk) 05:51, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

@Musdan77: - Really don't know what else to say to you. I pointed you directly to the errors your edit caused. If you can't see those errors, there's really no point in going further with a discussion. Have a great day.Onel5969 (talk) 12:12, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Wow, Really? I think you need to learn more about how to interact with other editors, and how and when to revert properly. If you had "pointed me directly", I would have known what my so-called "errors" where. So, then you're implying that it's my fault that I "can't see" them. Give me a break. --Musdan77 (talk) 17:14, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

@Musdan77: - Yes, really. Don't know how much more specific I can get than pointing you to the EXACT lines in which your edit caused formatting, punctuation and grammar issues. You come on to my page in an uncivil manner, and than continue to be escalate the lack of civility. Any further posts from you, with even the hint of incivility will be deleted. It is you who perhaps should learn how to interact with other editors. Have a good day. Onel5969 (talk) 21:30, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

REversion of edits

re https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_365

Why do you say it "isn't formatted correctly"?

JohnGrantNineTiles (talk) 22:17, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

@JohnGrantNineTiles: - Hi! Take a look at the section as it currently exists here versus the section after you made your change. Do you see how your edit wasn't in the same format as the rest? Also, if you add to the list, you should really change the lead in, so that it reflects that there are five in the list. Hope this helps.Onel5969 (talk) 22:48, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't want to add it to the list, because it's not one of the "places along the Great Northern route". I was trying to be helpful, bringing the page up-to-date, and I admit I'm not well-versed in the more arcane aspects of Wikipedia because, basically, I have better ways to spend my time. I get the message that these days everything anyone outside the inner circle adds to Wikipedia will be reverted, so it will quickly become out-of-date, and I'll bear that in mind when researching stuff on the Web. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnGrantNineTiles (talk • contribs) 17:02, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Request on 21:06:44, 28 November 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Mfbergmann

• Mfbergmann (talk · contribs)
  • User:Mfbergmann (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I created a page that was taken down for copyright reasons. I would like to fix it and have it put up again, but it has been deleted. Can I get a previous version so that I can edit it to remove the problems and resubmit? Thanks.

Mfbergmann (talk) 21:06, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

@Mfbergmann: - Hi! I'm not an admin, so I can't see deleted pages, but I checked and you already put your message on the Teahouse, which is where you should be able to get some help. Sorry I couldn't do more.Onel5969 (talk) 22:29, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Ou have no right to edit me. These are all facts. Put them back or I will begin editing you and your pages.

Understood? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MC Funkalishious (talk • contribs) 12:25, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Aval Appadithan

Hi would you like to copyedit this article? Thanks. Ssven2 (talk) 16:20, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

@Ssven2: - Hi! Sure, I'll take a whack at it over the next couple of days. Onel5969 (talk) 15:47, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Beer is the world's most widely consumed and probably oldest alcoholic beverage. It is the third most popular drink after water and tea. Have a beer! Hafspajen (talk) 23:29, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Right back at you! Do I have to stop at one? Seeing as I'm on my third right now... Onel5969 (talk) 23:30, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Anbe Vaa

Would you be interested in copyediting this film? Thank you. Thamizhan1994 (^{Appo Pesu}) 17:17, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

@Thamizhan1994: - Hi. Sure, I'll give it a go. It's a long article, so I'll do it in sections (as I usually do)... probably take me about a week to do it justice. You'll see the sections done as I go through it, and I'll ping you when I finish. Onel5969 (talk) 20:01, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

It is the caretaker's wife, four your kind information. Thamizhan1994 (^{Appo Pesu}) 10:48, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

It should be reel life and not real life. The quote is correct. Don't worry :) Thamizhan1994 (^{Appo Pesu}) 15:47, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

@Thamizhan1994: - Okay, just finished it. Hope it helps. Onel5969 (talk) 14:01, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Hey great work with your recent copyediting on Tamil films. Will you take care of Mouna Ragam, which is on the GOCE list? Kailash29792 (talk) 16:57, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: - Thanks. Right now I'm working on Anbe Vaa, but when I'm finished, if Mouna Ragam still needs a pass, I'll give it a go. Anbe will take me at least a few more days, however. Onel5969 (talk) 17:05, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Take your time. And do remember to put a "working" tag on every GOCE request you accept. Kailash29792 (talk) 17:09, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

You are finished with Anbe Vaa; ready now? Or committed to anything else? Kailash29792 (talk) 13:31, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Greetings! Yes, finished Anbe yesterday. Just began on Mouna Ragam about 10 minutes ago. Finished the lead. Will continue on that this week. Onel5969 (talk) 13:34, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Hi. Just noticed that Baffle Gab is doing a c/e on Mouna Ragam, so I'm going to break off doing it. Good luck.Onel5969 (talk) 02:09, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	For your superb copy-editing which help made Aval Appadithan a GA. Ssven2 (talk) 03:22, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

GOCE coordinator elections

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Candidate nominations for Guild coordinators to serve from January 1 to June 30, 2015, are currently underway. The nomination period will close at 23:59 on December 15 (UTC), after which voting will commence until 23:59 on December 31, 2014. Self-nominations are welcomed. Please consider getting involved; it's your Guild and it won't coordinate itself, so if you'd like to help coordinate Guild activities we'd love to hear from you. Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, and Miniapolis. Message sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:17, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

I get what you are saying, but...

...that is not the broad definition (all eight states); if it were, the order would be different. I'll ignore California and non-western Texas since otherwise, the cities would be primarily in those states. (See this if you want a Wikipedia list: List of Metropolitan Statistical Areas#United States)

1. Phoenix, Arizona
2. Denver, Colorado
3. Las Vegas, Nevada
4. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
5. Salt Lake City, Utah
6. Tucson, Arizona
7. Tulsa, Oklahoma
8. Albuquerque, New Mexico
9. El Paso, Texas
10. Colorado Springs, Colorado

If you include Texas and Southern California (this is the worst possible variant in my opinion)...

1. Los Angeles, California
2. Dallas, Texas
3. Houston, Texas
4. Phoenix, Arizona
5. Riverside, California
6. San Diego, California
7. Denver, Colorado
8. San Antonio, Texas
9. Las Vegas, Nevada
10. Austin, Texas

I hope this explains I why I suggest eliminating most cities in those two states.

Another variant of the regions that appears to be common includes the states of Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Texas, with Nevada, Colorado, and California being part of the "West". By this definition (only including West Texas, as there are too many populous cities in the entirety of the state), the top six metropolitan areas in order by population are...

1. Phoenix, Arizona
2. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
3. Tucson, Arizona
4. Tulsa, Oklahoma
5. Albuquerque, New Mexico
6. El Paso, Texas
7. Lubbock, Texas

In any case, I think a change should be made, as the article fails to meet any of these definitions, and it neglects California, all of Texas, and all of Oklahoma. I just randomly came up with some of these lists; it appeared to be too complicated to just choose, so I removed the statement, but you keep re-adding it. Dustin (talk) 23:20, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

@Dustin V. S.: - Hi! And I completely understand your viewpoint. The issue is, that there is so much variance as to what different folks mean by the Southwest US. I basically agree with all 3 of your variations above. Part of the issue is how you break up the US, since there is no "official" definition. Personally, I think the SW should include: NV, AZ, NM, UT, CO and western TX. Part of the problem with this article, is that it has been discussed before, with the result being what you see in the article. I think it may be time to re-start a discussion about what to include. I think if we said that the article was about my partial list above, and simply touch on the fact that different definitions include other states (CA, OK and all of TX), that might work. There is no doubt that west TX is different than east TX - the state is so damn big. CA and OK, imho, should definitely be excluded. There might be an argument that CO and UT should be as well. Especially with the dearth of cited material regarding what to include. I'd definitely welcome and participate in the discussion. Thoughts? Onel5969 (talk) 23:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

December 2014

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give The Imperfect Lady (1935 film) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen. Thank you. Rob Sinden (talk) 11:53, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

@Robsinden: Hi! Couldn't do that do to the way the redirects were constructed. See your point though, so I apologize for reverting your correction (you hadn't left this message yet). I guess I need to get an admin involved so that it can follow the correct protocol... was attempting to do it without bothering anyone. Onel5969 (talk) 11:56, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

No problem. I'd have thought using the {{Db-move}} on the destination page is the quickest way to get it moved if it's not controversial and over a redirect. --Rob Sinden (talk) 11:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't know about that template. Will do that.Onel5969 (talk) 12:00, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

@Robsinden: - Can you do me a quick favor? Take a look at the page and make sure I added the template correctly? Thanks. Onel5969 (talk) 12:05, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. --Rob Sinden (talk) 12:18, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Lucia!

Happy Saint Lucia's day!

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"Good Morning" Onel5969:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia!
13 December is the day when Swedes perplex the rest of the world by showing up way too early in the morning dressed in white tunics, candles in their hair, singing and bringing saffron buns and breakfast in bed to nice people. Hope you have a bright day!
    – w.carter-Talk 00:56, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks W.carter! Just trying to do my bit to help make the site slightly better. BTW, in the US every student must take a foreign language in both High School and at university. While I took Spanish in HS, when I went to UCLA my language choice was Swedish. By the time I graduated, I could converse intelligently in it (it's a pretty cool language)... but after 30 years of non-use, it's pretty much all gone except for a few phrases like "Talar du Svenska?" or "Jag tala Svenska", or, most importantly, "Vart är baren?" Hope you're having a wonderful Saint Lucia's Day! Happy editing! Onel5969 (talk) 13:28, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Awesome skill, and to add to your excellent vocabulary: "Vänligen ge mig en öl" (Please bring me a beer). w.carter-Talk 13:34, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

re Chak 17/14L edit

You're welcome! Some of those village/town pages in the same 'series' are just awful. The concept of verifiability, NPOV and being encyclopaedic sometimes seems to be absent in edits originating from certain areas of the world! Maybe someday I'll learn to stay away from them. In the meantime a 'wee dram' of Jim Beam or Bundaberg Rum may see me through. 220 of ^Borg 13:36, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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AVENTADOR

I HAVE ALREADY MADE A PAGE FOR THE LAMBORGHINI VENENO AS Lambo Veneno so im undoing your edits Immu 01 (talk) 09:23, 14 December 2014 (UTC)immu_01

Moondram Pirai

My next GA plan. Would you like to give it a c/e? Ssven2 ^{speak 2 me} 03:30, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

@Ssven2: - Hi. Sure. Will start on it tomorrow. Will take a few days. Onel5969 (talk) 03:48, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Do give it a thorough c/e and add a  Working tag at the requests page. Ssven2 ^{speak 2 me} 03:50, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

@Ssven2: - Hi again. Just wanted to let you know, that I'm no longer a member of GOCE... didn't like the attitude of some of the editors, so I left. Still do c/e from time to time, especially if requested. If that's an issue for you, if you want a GOCE editor, than I will completely understand. If you would still like me to do it, you can remove the request from the GOCE page, and I'll take care of it. Just let me know. Onel5969 (talk) 13:02, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Bar, Ukraine

I honestly don't know what is wrong with my edit. The pronunciation is clearly the British and American pronunciation of bar (not the town in Ukraine), there's a senseless extra text line "IPAc-en|audio=En-us-Bar.ogg", plus the {{Ua-pop-est2013}} template wrongly puts the dot after the note.--Carnby (talk)

Hi! Good morning (or whatever time of day it is where you are). I made the reversion, because some of what you did seemed incorrect, and was going back over it to re-do what I saw as correct (e.g. removing that stupid line at the beginning). The phrase, "officially the City of Bar", is better, and more importantly, it's the correct official term for the city, rather than the construction your edit made. Regarding the dot and the template, you are correct, that the construction now puts the ref in the wrong spot, however, your change made the sentence grammatically awkward. Regarding the opening pronunciation, the former construct was more in keeping with the guidelines in terms of construction. Since it's in the Ukraine, having that in the opening is pretty important (I have no opinion on the inclusion of Polish there, that could be deleted in my opinion).

Due to the symbols in the opening, it was easier to make a revert and then go in and make the corrections. I actually had the article open to deal with the two issues which should be corrected, but was making myself a cup of coffee... will make them now. The issue is with the template for the pop estimate. I am having difficulty overcoming the issue of the dot, while still making the sentence grammatically correct. I think that your change there is about the best change that can be made, there's a problem with that template's structure. Onel5969 (talk) 13:02, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello from User:Emperorofthedaleks

Hello Onel5969, I'm new to Wikipedia and I have been editing the Italians in the United Kingdom page and i thought the image in the infobox would be better as a collage like the one on the English American page, I think you would need one of the photo box or gimp tools for the computer, but I don't have these and am not too sure on how to do this collage, so I would really appreciate it if you could do it, or if you can't but know someone who can and ask them to do it that would be a real help. If you could merge the individual images below into a single image I think it would really benefit the page. I will give you the images I've got so far:

Onel5969

Thank you--Emperorofthedaleks (talk) 10:06, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

@Emperorofthedaleks: - Hi! And welcome to Wikipedia. Of course I'll attempt it, but montages are tricky (as you've just found out), and pretty time-consuming. The most I've ever done as been one with 8 photos in it, and that took me quite a few hours. I won't be able to get to this until tomorrow probably. But I'll ping you to let you know my progress. Happy editing!Onel5969 (talk) 13:02, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Ok then, I mean if it will take ages then I understand if you don't do it, because it wouldn't be fair for you, but I do think it will benefit the page. You could ask someone else to do it because as I've mentioned I read that some programs on the computer are faster than others (photo box, gimp, etc.) I should mention though, that I have asked other editors other than yourself, because I wasn't sure who would reply or not (It says on some of their pages that they are on a wiki break). Thank you very much for agreeing with the idea. A question I have is if you were to complete the image if you have the time then would you edit the Italians in the United Kingdom page to incorporate the image, or would you post the image to me?--Emperorofthedaleks (talk) 14:29, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

I forgot to mention (you may already know) that the images I gave you can be cropped before you merge them, perhaps more focused on their faces, and also if the images were in a 4x4 formation. Thanks--Emperorofthedaleks (talk) 15:32, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello Onel5969, I'm just letting you know that I will not be able to edit Wikipedia or comment until Boxing Day. Thank you--Emperorofthedaleks (talk) 13:30, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Hope you had a merry Christmas, I'm back on Wikipedia following a short Christmas break--Emperorofthedaleks (talk) 17:24, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

@Emperorofthedaleks: - Hi! Welcome back, hope you had a nice holiday. Here's what I've come up with so far, there were two files that you sent me that were too small to use in the montage (they pixelated too much). So if you have two others, I can put them in. Also, I can re-order the pics if you'd like.

File:ItaliansInEnglandMontage.jpg

Onel5969 (talk) 02:50, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Onel5969 and thanks a lot its great. Thinking about it the images could be in order of the birthdate of the people, I'll send you the images i've found pictures of two other British Italians that work just as well:

Michael Costa (conductor) and Ida Lupino

or these:

thanks for your help, I really appreciate it--Emperorofthedaleks (talk) 18:28, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

@Emperorofthedaleks: - Okay, here it is. Hope it helps:

Onel5969 (talk) 01:50, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help, will get to work on the page--Emperorofthedaleks (talk) 04:03, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi

Merry Christmas to you! Please take a look at the article Carolina Neurath, appreciate it.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:24, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi BabbaQ! Haven't talked in quite a spell. Be happy to take a look at the article (being in finance, and having quite a few financial dealings in Sweden, this is a pretty appropriate article). Right off the bat, the first reference doesn't seem to bring up a link about the article's subject. Will work on it this afternoon. Oh... and a very Merry Christmas to you as well... Onel5969 (talk) 21:10, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Okay BabbaQ, did a c/e on, and re-ordered it a bit to put it in better chronological order. Also added a few details (who she lost to in 2011 for Guldspaden, the English translations of a few the books - although I couldn't figure out exactly how to translate her first book title - as near as I can figure it, it should be: The big bank Hank: Finance pair Hagströmer and Qvibergs rise and fall. The Big Bank Scandal: the Finance Team Hagströmer and Qviberg's Rise and Fall"). Anyway, hope it helps. Onel5969 (talk) 21:58, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Merry

To you and yours

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:34, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Best wishes for a happy holiday season

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Thanks Onel! Hafspajen (talk) 03:04, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Season Greetings

I wish you all happiness, a peaceful Holiday and a prosperous New Year. All the best, w.carter-Talk 09:54, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks... love the comic! Onel5969 (talk) 12:36, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy hollydaze!

Happy Yuletide!

Merry Yuletide to you! (And a happy new year!)

All the best during this holiday season and in 2015, Miniapolis 14:28, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Magadheera

Hi. Would you like to conduct a GA review on Magadheera? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 13:42, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

@Pavanjandhyala: - Wow, that's a long article. It will take me a week or two to do a good c/e on it. And I most likely won't be able to start on it until after the holidays, but I'm willing to take a stab at it. Onel5969 (talk) 16:05, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Sure. Take your time to do it. Actually there's nothing more happier for me than you accepting to review it after performing a c/e as Kailash29792 and Ssven2 always say good things about your c/e skills. I hope it shall pass its nomination by 14 January 2015. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 16:18, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Missing articles

To answer your questions, yes you're more than welcome to remove the blue link/update any totals if applicable, and if there are new blue links, yes they should be checked before removal to be safe. Thanks for helping out there; thankfully it seems there's several editors that are writing on those guys, so they could all feasibly be written about in the next few months. Wizardman 03:31, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Look forward to getting the pages blank. My focus, however, also takes me to others who I think deserve pages. My cut-off point isn't a hard and fast 100 films on imdb, it's more nebulous. My main cut-off is 20 films, but if I come across someone who has had significant/lead roles in a few films, I'll do an article on them. I also look for actors who have historical significance, like Kenneth Thomson (actor), one of the founders of SAG. Finally, I also do technical folks, like Edward Cronjager. But when I come across those with more than 100 films on imdb, I'll make sure to clear the list, and I'll make an effort to do between 5-10 per week on the list, regardless. Happy Holidays! Onel5969 (talk) 15:58, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Padayappa

Hey bro, would like to give a c/e on this Rajini film? — Ssven2 ^{speak 2 me} 16:56, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

@Ssven2: - Hi! I'll definitely take a look at it, but it won't be until towards the end of next week. I have another long Indian article which Pavanjandhyala asked me to do a c/e on, so I'm going to do that one first. Then I have to create a montage for an article about Italians in England (but that will only take me a day or two). Then I'll start on your article. But it's another long one, so it will take me some time - you know how I work. Will give you a heads up when I start the c/e. Onel5969 (talk) 02:09, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok. — Ssven2 ^{speak 2 me} 03:37, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

@Ssven2: - Okay, starting the c/e. It'll take me 2-3 days (I'm working on some other old US film stuff at the same time). Onel5969 (talk) 04:10, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

No worries. Give the article a good c/e, bro. — Ssven2 ^{speak 2 me} 04:15, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Blakumen

Harrias ^talk 12:01, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

23:38:33, 27 December 2014 review of submission by Shidoken

• Shidoken (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Giuliana Stramigioli (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Review,

I just read your declination of Giuliana Stramigioli item. I have tried to contact you through your page but something went wrong (fatal error message).

First of all, I have to say I started this item not with my Wikipedia account, but I have been contribuiting to many Japan-related Italian items. Moreover, as you could see, Professor Stramigioli is a notable person

I do understand your asking for more references but most I can add is in Japanese. I cold also use Akira Kurosawa's words from his autobiography about Stramigioli.

Please let me know what can I do.

I just want you to consider that there are already a Japanese and a Italian item about Giuliana Stramigioli in Wikipedia. https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8A%E3%83%BB%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%9F%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AA

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliana_Stramigioli

Best regards

Shidoken (talk) 23:38, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

@Shidoken: - Hi! I looked at the IT version, and I wouldn't have passed that one as notable either. The English wiki is very conscious of biographical articles, particularly of living people (which isn't the case here). All facts should be referenced if they are subject to contesting. For example, the Kurosawa statement would need proof, which is not present in the current "note". But beyond the lack of citations proving the underlying facts of the article, there is no overriding establishment of notability. You should look at WP:PROF and WP:BIO (particularly WP:BASIC) to see what denotes notability. Once you feel that the subject meets these requirements, which I am not sure she meets, you can check out WP:RS to show you what qualifies as an independent, reliable source. I hope this helps.Onel5969 (talk) 19:54, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

@Onel5969:

Hi, thank for your reply and advice.

I do understand your doubts and I appreciate Wikipedia English consciousness of bios (but please see this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Breen_%28scholar%29, only one reference, yet Breen is really a great scholar, no doubt, and so it was a wise thing to keep his item. I do agree about the basic rule and I am entering indipendent and reliable references (mainly academic stuff and Kurosawa's autobio). Anyway no facts are subject to contesting about Stramigioli. Moreover, I am looking carefully at WP:PROF and WP:BIO and they confirm my idea, but non only mine, that Professor Stramigioli was a notable academic for Japanese Studies. Once ready, I will submit the new item,

best regards from quite cold Roma, Italia (but nothing compare to USA, I imagine)

Shidoken

Magadheera

Bro, Pavanjandhyala actually wants you to conduct a GA review on the article, not to give a c/e on it. — Ssven2 ^{speak 2 me} 05:50, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

@Ssven2: - Wow. How did I miss that? Probably because it's been a long time since I did a GA review. Thanks for pointing that out. Pavanjandhyala - Sorry I missed the intent of your request, will begin the GA review later today. At least I got a couple of sections c/e'd. Onel5969 (talk) 13:01, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Aropya

Thanks. Regards.Aditya soni (talk) 07:16, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

When Strangers Marry

You're welcome . Octave.H (talk) 09:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

Hi. First of all, thank you for starting the review process. Apart from the "Mishaps" sub section in "Release", can you please let me know the remaining issues regarding the prose? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:59, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

With the help of Kailash29792, the Mishaps sub section of Magadheera is re-written and small changes are done to the plot. Please do let us know if any changes are left. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:50, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

@Pavanjandhyala: - Okay, I thought it was simpler for me to go through it and make the corrections myself. Could probably use some more tightening, but I'm okay with it now.Onel5969 (talk) 19:20, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! My first GA success. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 01:59, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Template needs fixing

Hi, your post at User talk:John Carter#Happy Holidays makes it (somehow) difficult to read the comments below it. Can you fix it? And Happy New Year. Solomon7968 17:16, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

@Solomon7968: - Hi! For the life of me, I couldn't figure out why the template was doing that on John's page. I used it on several others, and it did not have that affect. So I simply deleted it, so it wouldn't screw up the rest of the page. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Happy editing! Onel5969 (talk) 17:25, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I myself tried to fix it several times in preview mode etc. but it wasn't working at all. Happy editing to you too! Solomon7968 17:35, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:ItaliansInEnglandMontage2.jpg

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Image source and copyright licensing problem with File:ItaliansInEnglandMontage.jpg

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16:19:32, 29 December 2014 review of submission by CockpitSeeker

• CockpitSeeker (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Pay to fly (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Onel5969,

First, thank your for your time on the review of my draft on the aviation topic "pay to fly" at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Pay_to_fly Remarks duly noted.

To avoid numerous other submissions and make sure I can adress the issues you pointed in an efficient and timely manner, I request however that you be more specific in the paragraphs/sections that need rework. Extensive references ranging from aviation authorities, mainstream media outlets and policians' reports being provided in my draft, I am indeed at a loss as to what exactly to change at the time being.

Thank you in advance for your consideration, and merry holidays in this time of celebrations,

Sincerely, CockpitSeeker

@CockpitSeeker: - Hi! Sure. First, right off the bat, using terms like "schemes" cast a non-neutral point of view. Second, do not use bold in the body of an article. On wiki, "Do not use boldface for emphasis in article text", as per WP:BOLDFACE. Third, Same for the use of italics to highlight certain text. Avoid overuse of certain terms, e.g. "as of today". Fourth, quotes do need to be enclosed in quotation marks.

Fifth, the style of writing is very informal, like you were writing an email, for example, "As of today, aside from a French senator report of information in the name of European commission affairs on social dumping in transports"; "Concerning JAA licence holders, in Europe, 'p2f' is a practice acknowledged to exist". Sixth, raw links in articles (like to HR 500) shouldn't be there.

It is a very well-researched and cited article, and was not declined for lack of notability. It is the tone of the article. I hope this helps. I've re-worked the first couple of sentences under FAA to give you an example of the differences I'm speaking about. Onel5969 (talk) 19:07, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

19:01:39, 29 December 2014 review of submission by DonnMann

• DonnMann (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Nick Turner (Comedian) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, just wanted to get some feedback on how to improve my page. Didn't see any comments by you letting me know why it didn't get published. Would love some insight. Thanks.

DonnMann (talk) 19:01, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

@DonnMann: - Hi! Not sure why my comments didn't show up in the box where the article was declined, but they did show up in the summary section on the edit page. I'll repost here: Very short article. That's not a problem in and of itself, but it has a close paraphrasing issue with 3 of its sources. I then included the 3 sources, which got truncated, they are:

• http://www.thecomedynetwork.ca/Shows/JustForLaughs/Comedians
• http://raleigh.eventful.com/events/goodnights-presents-nick-turner-/E0-001-074486660-2
• http://www.madisoncomedy.com/show.php?nextshow=2014-08-14

Hope this helps.Onel5969 (talk) 19:25, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Ernst_Lobethal

Regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ernst_Lobethal , the article you are flagging as a copy/paste of the Wikipedia Draft is my own article, as explicitly stated in the foreword of the article itself. I have now removed the article from javamonamour.org, in the hope that the Wikipedia article will be restored.

--Vernettoagain (talk) 07:58, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

@Vernettoagain: - Hi. In that case, it would be declined anyway. One of the three tenets of Wikipedia is No Original Research (WP:NOR). Onel5969 (talk) 19:15, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Request on 21:31:30, 30 December 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by 86.128.48.93

• 86.128.48.93 (talk · contribs)
  • User:Rebutia Marsoneri (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I got a msg. saying the 'references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability' - I was under the impression that references such as the BBC / Public Catalogue Foundation (www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/artists/john-hitchens ), academic institutions (www.baacorsham.co.uk/cached/John%20Hitchens.htm ) plus representation by several art galleries are sufficient evidence?

Is it not? Or have I not used the correct format/s ?

Thanks for your help.

86.128.48.93 (talk) 21:31, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Brent James Notability Question

I appreciate your time to review the article on Brent James (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Brent_James). I received your comments regarding notability. The second notability criterion for musicians and ensembles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music) is "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." I've included three independent sources referencing his appearance on the National Hot AC charts (references 2, 3 and 4 in the article). Please help me to better understand what I can do improve this article to meet notability requirements beyond what has been included so far. Thank you in advance.

@Hooray lion: - Hi! Not sure Hot AC is a "national" chart. In the US, the standard is the Billboard charts. At least that's my understanding. Hot AC would be a niche, not national chart. That's what the note on #2 criteria is pointing out, Hot AC isn't a genre, it's a niche. But other the notability issue, the article is well written for a short article. Hope this helps.Onel5969 (talk) 04:26, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

@Onel5969: - Thanks for the reply. I am not 100% on Wikipedia's definition of a national music chart but I was under the impression the Hot AC was (AC standing for Adult Contemporary). It's referenced in USA today (may need to drop down the genre - http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2012/10/15/airplay-charts/1635101/), American music charts (http://www.americasmusiccharts.com/index.cgi?fmt=A2), and Mediabase charts (http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/allaboutcountry/Charts.asp?format=A2R). Its not article reference-worthy but there was also a post on a Kelly Clarkson related blog showing his single on the hot AC chart (search the page for 'Brent' - http://kellyclarksonexpress.yuku.com/sreply/1259691/DARK-AIRPLAY-TRACKING-THREAD-HOT-AC-32-Oct-2). Again, I am not 100% on the wikipedia definition but let me know your thoughts on this. Also, thank you for the compliment on the article writing. It was much appreciated.

@Hooray lion: First thing, when you leave a message on an editor's talk page, there's no need to "ping" them. Pinging is to notify an editor that they are being answered, or for them to "look here", but editors are automatically notified when someone posts on their talk page, so it's a bit redundant. I ping you, so that you'll know I responded. Just a tip.

I'm posting the question on the talk page of WP:NMUSIC, so that we can get some feedback and a consensus on this issue. Let's give it a week or so, and see what other editors say. I mentioned you in the comments, so you can go to the page and add it to your watchlist. Onel5969 (talk) 05:09, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the tip about the ping, I am new to the Wikipedia mechanics here. I will wait for the response from you and the other editors regarding this question. Thanks again for your time and patience.