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Copenhagen (2002 film) → ? – (Either Copenhagen (TV film) or Copenhagen (2002 TV film)) - Simply put, this is a television film, so its disambiguation's naming convention should be dictated by WP:NCTV, not WP:NCF (which would put the title at Copenhagen (TV film)). However, due to the move war that has started over following the proper naming convention, the alternate option would be to give this article a disambiguator that is a combination of WP:NCTV and WP:NCF (which would put the article's title at Copenhagen (2002 TV film)), but since this is a television film and this should fall solely on WP:NCTV's making guidelines, the disambiguator "TV film" is my first choice and "2002 TV film" is my second choice (especially since the disambiguation page Copenhagen (disambiguation) currently does not list any other television films). The current name does not address the naming convention set in WP:NCTV. Steel1943 (talk) 00:26, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in agreement with Steel that the naming convention would be dictated by WP:NCTV. Copenhagen (TV film) would seem to be the most correct page title - though Copenhagen (2002 TV film) seems like an excellent compromise. - Xenxax (talk) 10:18, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, it should be "TV film." Nick Cooper (talk) 10:59, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Question: NCTV says that (TV film) should be used if the name "do[es] not conflict with other films". However, it doesn't specify whether it refers to TV films specifically or all films. This quote is immediately followed by a link to NCF, which makes me believe the latter. If that's the case, I think (2002 TV film) is the most appropriate. For instance, in the case of Noah (1998 film) (which is also misnamed), would that become (1998 TV film) due to Noah (2014 film)? Thanks! Sock (~~tock~~ talk) 12:43, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article does not fall solely under WP:NCTV. As Sock points out, the naming convention for TV films contains a link to WP:NCF, which tells me that the film conventions should take precedence. Plus, per WP:PRECISE, disambiguation should be "enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but no more precise than that". Therefore, Copenhagen (film) would be enough, if this were the only film article with that title. But since there is more than one, Copenhagen (2002 film) is enough to disambiguate this article from Copenhagen (2014 film). Copenhagen (2002 TV film) is simply unnecessary, because there are no other articles for films titled "Copenhagen" that were released in 2002. The fact that this film was a television film is irrelevant. Fortdj33 (talk) 13:20, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that it is first and foremost a TV production is most certainly relevant. It was shot on Digital Betacam video tape and film effected for screening on TV. It was not produced as a feature film to be shown in cinemas, which in fact it never has been in the UK. Nick Cooper (talk) 15:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Question''': NCTV says that (TV film) should be used if the name "do[es] not conflict with other films". However, it doesn't specify whether it refers to TV films specifically or all films. This quote is immediately followed by a link to NCF, which makes me believe the latter. If that's the case, I think (2002 TV film) is the most appropriate. For instance, in the case of [[Noah (1998 film)]] (which is also misnamed), would that become (1998 TV film) due to [[Noah (2014 film)]]? Thanks! [[User:Sock|<span style="color:#FF00FF">'''Sock'''</span>]] [[User talk:Sock|<span style="color:#FF00FF">(<s>tock</s> talk)</span>]] 12:43, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 ::This article does not fall solely under [[WP:NCTV]]. As Sock points out, the naming convention for TV films contains a link to [[WP:NCF]], which tells me that the film conventions should take precedence. Plus, per [[WP:PRECISE]], disambiguation should be "enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but no more precise than that". Therefore, [[Copenhagen (film)]] would be enough, if this were the only film article with that title.  But since there is more than one, [[Copenhagen (2002 film)]] is enough to disambiguate this article from [[Copenhagen (2014 film)]]. [[Copenhagen (2002 TV film)]] is simply unnecessary, because there are no other articles for films titled "Copenhagen" that were released in 2002. The fact that this film was a ''television film'' is irrelevant. [[User:Fortdj33|Fortdj33]] ([[User talk:Fortdj33|talk]]) 13:20, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
-:::The fact that it is first and foremost a TV production is most certainly relevant. It was shot on [[Digital Betacam]] video tape and [[Deinterlacingfilm effected]] for screening on TV. It was not produced as a feature film to be shown in cinemas, which in fact it never has been in the UK. [[User:Nick Cooper|Nick Cooper]] ([[User talk:Nick Cooper|talk]]) 15:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
+:::The fact that it is first and foremost a TV production is most certainly relevant. It was shot on [[Digital Betacam]] video tape and [[Deinterlacing|film effected]] for screening on TV. It was not produced as a feature film to be shown in cinemas, which in fact it never has been in the UK. [[User:Nick Cooper|Nick Cooper]] ([[User talk:Nick Cooper|talk]]) 15:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)