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Speculation

Does the casting speculation regarding Clara really merit being in here? It is just speculation, and the article even states that "the BBC is yet to comment officially". Surely that's an admission that the speculation shouldn't be here? 31.49.158.59 (talk) 10:49, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We are not the ones doing the speculating, but we can report what other sources are speculating. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 11:08, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The cliffhanger

Isn't the cliffhanger supposed to be the second last episode since it's "the penultimate episode"? 220.255.1.149 (talk) 14:00, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Two partner. The penultimate quote is given. AlexTheWhovian (talk) 19:21, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing

I don't really know what everybody is talking about here. Block One of production is confirmed to comprise of episode three and episode four. This is supported by a source to Doctor Who Magazine. The source that I have been trying to input is this: http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/toby-whithouse-two-parter-confirmed-for-series-9-71155.htm

People have been telling me that this source doesn't support the fact that Derek Ritchie will be producing the Block of production. You only need to read into the second paragraph where it says this however: "The episodes currently being filmed are written by Toby Whithouse (The Game, Being Human), produced by Derek Ritchie and directed by Daniel O’Hara (Silent Witness 2015, The Game, Being Human)".

Everything you need to know is here. Ritchie will be producing "the episodes currently being filmed". The episodes "currently being filmed" are episodes 3 and 4 as proved by the source from Doctor Who Magazine. What's not to understand?

Forgive me if I sound stupid but it's just frustrating when I have got something right and sourced and people delete it. 86.134.246.132 (talk) 19:46, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If Doctor Who Magazine specifically states that these are indeed episodes 3 and 4, then cite it as a source. You only keep adding the BBC news page, which does not give that information. That is why it is removed. All you need to do is add <ref>Doctor Who Magazine, issue XX, page XX</ref>. Only then does it become verifiable (as in, others can check). However, note that you can not take two separate sources and draw a conclusion that is not explicitly stated in either source; that is WP:SYNTH. Hope this helps. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 21:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Episodes 3 and 4 have been confirmed by Doctor Who Magazine to be included in Block One. This is a completely separate source and has got its own reference which I have not added. This source hasn't been removed by yourself or anyone else so I'm assuming you believe it to be reliable (which it is because I happen to own a copy of the magazine myself). Block One is filmed first. Block One has been established to consist of episodes 3 and 4 (as stated in DWM). Block One is written by Toby Whithouse (as confirmed by the BBC yesterday), directed by Daniel O'Hara and produced by Derek Ritchie (as stated in the source that I have been trying to add). It clearly states "the episodes currently being filmed" before these three names. Therefore the episodes currently being filmed are episodes 3 and 4, written by Toby Whithouse, directed by Daniel O'Hara and produced by Derek Ritchie. Everything I have been trying to add into this production table is fully supported by two separate sources. I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding something here but if these two sources are not linked at all (which they clearly are), then they should - by default - contradict each other. They are both official so they have to work together. Thanks in advance for managing to read this far into my extensive comment --86.134.246.132 (talk) 16:07, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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	:If ''Doctor Who Magazine'' specifically states that these are indeed episodes 3 and 4, then cite it as a source. You only keep adding the BBC news page, which does ''not'' give that information. That is why it is removed. All you need to do is add <code><nowiki><ref>Doctor Who Magazine, issue XX, page XX</ref></nowiki></code>. Only ''then'' does it become verifiable (as in, others can check). However, note that you can not take two separate sources and draw a conclusion that is not explicitly stated in either source; that is [[WP:SYNTH]]. Hope this helps. <code style="white-space:nowrap">-- [[[[User:Edokter\|<span style="color:#006">User:Edokter</span>]]]] {{[[User talk:Edokter\|<span style="color:#060">talk</span>]]}}</code> 21:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)		:If ''Doctor Who Magazine'' specifically states that these are indeed episodes 3 and 4, then cite it as a source. You only keep adding the BBC news page, which does ''not'' give that information. That is why it is removed. All you need to do is add <code><nowiki><ref>Doctor Who Magazine, issue XX, page XX</ref></nowiki></code>. Only ''then'' does it become verifiable (as in, others can check). However, note that you can not take two separate sources and draw a conclusion that is not explicitly stated in either source; that is [[WP:SYNTH]]. Hope this helps. <code style="white-space:nowrap">-- [[[[User:Edokter\|<span style="color:#006">User:Edokter</span>]]]] {{[[User talk:Edokter\|<span style="color:#060">talk</span>]]}}</code> 21:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

			::Episodes 3 and 4 have been confirmed by ''Doctor Who Magazine'' to be included in Block One. This is a completely separate source and has got its own reference which I have not added. This source hasn't been removed by yourself or anyone else so I'm assuming you believe it to be reliable (which it is because I happen to own a copy of the magazine myself). Block One is filmed first. Block One has been established to consist of episodes 3 and 4 (as stated in ''DWM''). Block One is written by Toby Whithouse (as confirmed by the BBC yesterday), directed by Daniel O'Hara and produced by Derek Ritchie (as stated in the source that I have been trying to add). It clearly states "the episodes currently being filmed" before these three names. Therefore the episodes currently being filmed are episodes 3 and 4, written by Toby Whithouse, directed by Daniel O'Hara and produced by Derek Ritchie. Everything I have been trying to add into this production table is fully supported by two separate sources. I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding something here but if these two sources are not linked at all (which they clearly are), then they should - by default - contradict each other. They are both official so they have to work together. Thanks in advance for managing to read this far into my extensive comment --[[Special:Contributions/86.134.246.132\|86.134.246.132]] ([[User talk:86.134.246.132\|talk]]) 16:07, 15 January 2015 (UTC)